MaskedFool

What is next after no-self?

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I managed to have no self experiences thanks to Leo's guide to enlightenment. Basically the discovery that "I" don't exist anywhere through self inquiry and some eerie sensations in my head. Is this enough to consider yourself enlightened or are there more steps I need to follow now? I heard all you have to do next is try to embody the realizations in daily life but what do you think?

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The question would no longer be pertinent upon realization.

You would have to enquire - why would you be aiming for something?

What do you think we would be left with, after no-self?

 

Edited by Natasha Tori Maru

Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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There is already no self and no such thing as next but only for the "me" and the sense of separation. So, there's some traces of that illusory sense there even though not really because it's not really there. It's tricky. No steps to follow and embodying is a thing for the separate self. Your whole sentence suggests there's a sense of self there.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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Makes sense, there is no one to do anything else.

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31 minutes ago, MaskedFool said:

Makes sense, there is no one to do anything else.

You will find that this:

1 hour ago, MaskedFool said:

 I heard all you have to do next is try to embody the realizations in daily life but what do you think?

Will just.... happen :)


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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@MaskedFool Have to integrate. You’re still a human being this experience won’t change. You see have seen the identity self your head has created via a contraction in your head but now you need to see how it works in lived experience. Normally tensions in the body will come up and your mind will reacts to it. Basically, in my experience I’m at this stage where I’m inter grating passed pain/trauma which is stored for me in a contraction in the throat due certain childhood past conditions  and then my “mind” self reacts to it and forms these loops things or trauma loops. This stuff sucks cause you feel like your going nuts cause you go how the heck am I still feeling like this when I’ve experienced no self, well that’s still the self lol. Have to recognise and love it fully. Typically imagining something you have loved or feel gratitude for and breath into the tensions in ya body which give the self the narrative.

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Have you awakened to the Universal Self? Have you awakened to Absolute Goodness? Have you awakened to Absolute Perfection? Have you awakened to Pure Love? Have you awakened to Absolute Truth? Have you awakened to the fact that you are God? If not...well there ya go.

Edited by Razard86

You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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@Razard86 sounds like a spiritual ego…. What’s the point of experiencing all that if you can’t intergrate in human life 

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6 hours ago, Mathdaddyg said:

@Princess Arabia disagree , you embody the experience meaning you have to integrate the small self or ego into lives experience.

"What is left after no self" is the question. The self didn't just automatically become a no self. There was never any there already. Embody? Integrate? Small self? Lived experience, even ego, all illusory. All the dream. I mean, I agree with you but only as the dream. We can talk dream stuff if you like but why not just wake up to nothing, speaking as nothing to nothing. It is already, but it's fooling itself.


What you know leaves what you don't know and what you don't know is all there is. 

 

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7 hours ago, MaskedFool said:

I managed to have no self experiences thanks to Leo's guide to enlightenment. Basically the discovery that "I" don't exist anywhere through self inquiry and some eerie sensations in my head. Is this enough to consider yourself enlightened

Lol

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@MaskedFoolYou want to try to turn your life into a dream state. That means no questioning anything. Just living by the seat of your pants. Your imagination telld you something you do it it within reason.


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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7 hours ago, Mathdaddyg said:

@Razard86 sounds like a spiritual ego…. What’s the point of experiencing all that if you can’t intergrate in human life 

Umm you can....and its not Spiritual ego. If you think thats Spiritual ego...then you are creating a Spiritual ego to be afraid of....which is Spiritual ego. No self is nothing. The other stuff I just mentioned are the other facets of the Universal Mind that you are. If you have not awakened to Absolute Goodness and Perfection then you couldn't even properly understand Morality for example. So there is a ton of integration there to be had. But hey...assume you are the expert here and fall into the very ego you fear.

That which you fear you resist, that which resists, persists.


You are a selfless LACK OF APPEARANCE, that CONSTRUCTS AN APPEARANCE. But that appearance can disappear and reappear and we call that change, we call it time, we call it space, we call it distance, we call distinctness, we call it other. But notice...this appearance, is a SELF. A SELF IS A CONSTRUCTION!!! 

So if you want to know the TRUTH OF THE CONSTRUCTION. Just deconstruct the construction!!!! No point in playing these mind games!!! No point in creating needless complexity!!! The truth of what you are is a BLANK!!!! A selfless awareness....then that means there is NO OTHER, and everything you have ever perceived was JUST AN APPEARANCE, A MIRAGE, AN ILLUSION, IMAGINARY. 

Everything that appears....appears out of a lack of appearance/void/no-thing, non-sense (can't be sensed because there is nothing to sense). That is what you are, and what arises...is made of that. So nonexistence, arises/creates existence. And thus everything is solved.

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Once you get no mo self then what's next is even mo no self...

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