Why Are We Incarnated as Humans

[AtmanIsBrahman]

Being a human feels really weird. Out of all the possible things you could be incarnated as, a human is the result. Doesn't it feel random and kind of odd? Like when you look at your hand, it isn't just a human hand but some foreign object. There are so many possibilities of what one could be other than a human, and even beyond whatever we know to exist. Why is it that we take being human for granted as something natural? A human is an accident, a smudge on the design of God's infinite tapestry. 

Think about it: even if you're really deep into spirituality, your life is still run by survival needs 99.9% of the time. Even if you claim to have transcended suffering, you're still maintaining the ego by keeping it alive, even through actions as basic as eating and drinking. If you're alive as a human, you are an ego, and you're imperfect.

But at the same time, the God or Spirit within feels there's something more. Does anyone else genuinely relate to feeling like being a human is weird or accidental? Like you are a majestic wolf forced to wear sheep's clothing, an infinite singularity compressed into a small distortion?

[Breakingthewall]

The human being is a totally different structure of reality than what life has been for millions of years. The difference lies in that in humans, another level of existence emerges : the mind.

Humans are hive beings, and as individuals, they are guests of the collective mind, which they feed with their processing power. Any other living being would need tens of thousands of years for even the slightest change, since they were tied to genes. The mind has broken free from the gene. It is a living being free of matter that evolves literally billions of times faster than life tied to genes. Naturally, this is traumatic, alienating, and unstable, until you perceive that you are precisely that: the movement. Not someone within it, not a witness of it, not its creator. You are it. The flow itself, without center, without resistance, endlessly becoming. 

Edited Friday at 09:58 AM by Breakingthewall

[Someone here]

7 hours ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

Being a human feels really weird. Out of all the possible things you could be incarnated as, a human is the result. Doesn't it feel random and kind of odd? Like when you look at your hand, it isn't just a human hand but some foreign object. There are so many possibilities of what one could be other than a human, and even beyond whatever we know to exist. Why is it that we take being human for granted as something natural? A human is an accident, a smudge on the design of God's infinite tapestry. 

Think about it: even if you're really deep into spirituality, your life is still run by survival needs 99.9% of the time. Even if you claim to have transcended suffering, you're still maintaining the ego by keeping it alive, even through actions as basic as eating and drinking. If you're alive as a human, you are an ego, and you're imperfect.

But at the same time, the God or Spirit within feels there's something more. Does anyone else genuinely relate to feeling like being a human is weird or accidental? Like you are a majestic wolf forced to wear sheep's clothing, an infinite singularity compressed into a small distortion?

I know exactly what you are talking about . But I managed to transcend this..which I call "existential incel mentality "..where you wonder why the fuck does anything at all be or become or arise as it is . The only answer is to drop the question. If there is no question...you won't need an answer . At some point you just gonna realize " well ..fuck it ..I exist and the world exists like this .quit wondering endlessly about it or you gonna waste your whole life seeking the impossible ".

[Sugarcoat]

Maybe it is possible to get in contact with a being from a spiritual plane , under for example astral projection, and gain information from them about this. Developing psychic abilities may also help

[AtmanIsBrahman]

5 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

Any other living being would need tens of thousands of years for even the slightest change, since they were tied to genes. The mind has broken free from the gene

How do you know this? Have you tested this or do you have direct experience, or is it just a belief? Common sense tells us that humans are limited by genes, karma, or whatever you want to call it. Even Leo admits that genes are highly important for someone's level of consciousness.

[Sugarcoat]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

The mind has broken free from the gene

Isn’t the mind produced by the brain though so it has biological basis? Or is the mind like an independent thing ? 

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, AtmanIsBrahman said:

How do you know this? Have you tested this or do you have direct experience, or is it just a belief? Common sense tells us that humans are limited by genes, karma, or whatever you want to call it. Even Leo admits that genes are highly important for someone's level of consciousness.

I mean the collective mind. If you look at any living being, they do exactly the same thing every time, like robots. Seagulls nest on rocks, then perform mating rituals, fish in a certain way, etc., and for the slightest change, it takes 50,000 years. However, the collective human mind changes every second. It evolves like a living being, but at a speed that is perhaps not billions of times faster, but trillions. And accelerating. The collective mind is everything that humans know, all the interactions, relationship, thoughts, ideas, science, technology, literature, Instagram, every video, this conversation, every thought.

Congo gorillas have been sitting there eating leaves for literally 400,000 years, without the slightest change. Maybe now the herds are 45 individuals instead of 38. That's all the change. Now look at humans and say: What the fuck.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Isn’t the mind produced by the brain though so it has biological basis? Or is the mind like an independent thing ? 

Yeah of course, its basis is genetic, but it lives indepent of the gene. The rest of the living beings that have existed on Earth for 3 billion years, which has been a lot of species, have been absolutely subject to genetics. That is, not only their physical characteristics, but their entire behavior has been precisely genetically coded with minimal room for maneuver. All lion packs do exactly the same thing; they hunt exactly the same; the males fight exactly the same generation after generation; everything is coded. Humans don't; they have flexibility. But the incredible thing is that they don't have much flexibility; they have total, absolute flexibility. A human can understand the quantum structure of reality. No animal can multiply; it's absolutely impossible, not even the smartest monkey in the world. You teleport a guy from prehistory here, and he can learn space engineering, genetic biology, and create an AI.

The human mind is another dimension of existence. It's not that humans are smarter; it's that we've broken a dimensional barrier and operate on another level, free of the gene. Humans can fully understand reality. Imagine civilization if it doesn't collapse in 30,000 years. You can't, it's impossible. 30,000 years, biologically, are two minutes, nothing. 

Human mind is a living being that operates above another being, the human, a kind of larva that wouldn't survive two days without the group, that exists to lend its mental energy to the collective mind. It has a basic emotional coding that compels it to certain attitudes, reproduction, tribalism, acceptance of the clan, and on these bases, the mind flies. It expands. All life pushes to expand against the barriers of matter. The mind has leaped those barriers and expands at the speed of light.

 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

Yeah of course, its basis is genetic, but it lives indepent of the gene. The rest of the living beings that have existed on Earth for 3 billion years, which has been a lot of species, have been absolutely subject to genetics. That is, not only their physical characteristics, but their entire behavior has been precisely genetically coded with minimal room for maneuver. All lion packs do exactly the same thing; they hunt exactly the same; the males fight exactly the same generation after generation; everything is coded. Humans don't; they have flexibility. But the incredible thing is that they don't have much flexibility; they have total, absolute flexibility. A human can understand the quantum structure of reality. No animal can multiply; it's absolutely impossible, not even the smartest monkey in the world. You teleport a guy from prehistory here, and he can learn space engineering, genetic biology, and create an AI.

The human mind is another dimension of existence. It's not that humans are smarter; it's that we've broken a dimensional barrier and operate on another level, free of the gene. Humans can fully understand reality. Imagine civilization if it doesn't collapse in 30,000 years. You can't, it's impossible. 30,000 years, biologically, are two minutes, nothing. 

Human mind is a living being that operates above another being, the human, a kind of larva that wouldn't survive two days without the group, that exists to lend its mental energy to the collective mind. It has a basic emotional coding that compels it to certain attitudes, reproduction, tribalism, acceptance of the clan, and on these bases, the mind flies. It expands. All life pushes to expand against the barriers of matter. The mind has leaped those barriers and expands at the speed of light.

 

How you come to this knowledge, does openness to reality give you knowledge about how the mind works or can you be enlightened and clueless? 

[Breakingthewall]

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How you come to this knowledge, does openness to reality give you knowledge about how the mind works or can you be enlightened and clueless? 

that of being enlightened has many possible meanings, and usually are knowing nothing and that. What I said is just logical deduction. Reality is an open system of logical relationships, human mind the same 

 

Edited Saturday at 05:31 AM by Breakingthewall

[chess_king]

Yeah I also ask myself the same question its really weird that I am a human like existence is so weird why do I exist?

[SOUL]

I also think being a platypus would feel really weird... be like wtf am I...a beaver or a duck?

[AntonK]

Religious people believe their mission is to serve and worship God

[Schizophonia]

23 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe it is possible to get in contact with a being from a spiritual plane , under for example astral projection, and gain information from them about this. Developing psychic abilities may also help

That's what my mentor did and helped him to develop clairvoyance.

That's said in fine these beings are imaginary.

[Schizophonia]

There's no reason to be human, there's nothing to learn; it's an ego game; why would infinity/god need to return to unconsciousness to "learn something" that he may already know?
We're here because that's how it is, and it seems anything is possible; from an incredible life to a shitty life of psychological and/or physical torture. 

[Sugarcoat]

17 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

that of being enlightened has many possible meanings, and usually are knowing nothing and that. What I said is just logical deduction. Reality is an open system of logical relationships, human mind the same 

 

It’s quite meta

[Sugarcoat]

11 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

That's what my mentor did and helped him to develop clairvoyance.

That's said in fine these beings are imaginary.

How do you know they are imaginary?

[Ishanga]

On 8/1/2025 at 7:26 AM, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe it is possible to get in contact with a being from a spiritual plane , under for example astral projection, and gain information from them about this. Developing psychic abilities may also help

lol, the Rishis, Mystics and Gurus have been sharing the information for Millenia, very few listen...nothing here on this forum or shared elsewhere is completely New, its builds upon itself and adapts for the ppl that are here today, what Buddha Taught and Shared was good for that time space, it helps now too but things have to be for what is here today, and the varied Human Being personalities, karma types, and conditioning processes going on now!

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

lol, the Rishis, Mystics and Gurus have been sharing the information for Millenia, very few listen...nothing here on this forum or shared elsewhere is completely New, its builds upon itself and adapts for the ppl that are here today, what Buddha Taught and Shared was good for that time space, it helps now too but things have to be for what is here today, and the varied Human Being personalities, karma types, and conditioning processes going on now!

It will all be intellectual if you don’t experience it yourself, regardless of what anyone said. I have had some spiritual experiences which have showed me what’s possible so that’s what I’m going from

Edited Saturday at 11:18 PM by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How do you know they are imaginary?

It’s just a possibility in infinity