What Is Context? ⚠️

[ExploringReality]

2 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

In this. Arising in this, as this. All is this. There is only this. Nothing but this. This is everything. There’s just this — Some non dualist with 50 subscribers on YouTube holding monthly zoom meetings where the audience is like seniors who are anxious about approaching death and trying to escape through non duality 

That's pretty condescending. We are all going to die, being afraid of death is natural and can spark a desire to face death consciously through non-dual teachings. Besides that, do you have any original thoughts or opinions on this subject?

[Keryo Koffa]

20 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

If we think of context as analogous to space, then a self-context would be the room in which the self exists - including the interpretation of it as the receiver of perceptive input, which I assume you were pointing to in your claim. Context sounds abstract and detached, as if, but it can involve objects and related processes, including the body, perception, etc. Anyway, 'body' and 'self' - up for grabs.

+ Space is a Context of Abstracted Lack mixed with the Ideography of Container Constructs Self-Projectedly Infused
+ Self/Room as Context Construct of Compartmentalization and Individuatedly Focused Relativity
+ Inputs are a contextualized Construct of exteriorized perceptions, again each word in this sentence is a Context
+ Pointers are artificial Contexts, Context and Construct can be used interchangeably despite creative Intentionalism
+ Abstraction is a Context of Phenomenological Change as an Evaluative Purposeful Projection as much as Detachment
+ Objects are artificial Constructs made of Context as is Artificiality itself an artificial construct which is just one Context
+ Processes are experiential constructs, Experience is a Context, Perception is a telically intentional frame of Understanding
+ Body, a context of Influence over Phenomenological Clusters themselves contextualized into the capacity of awareness as such
+ Self, grabs, anyway, everything is contextually codefined, every single word is a Context with plenty of implicit Assumptions
+ And those assumptions are telic organizational patterns, infusing understanding into qualia, but that itself is just a random Context

4 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

Everything arises in Context. But what is context arising in? What is the context of Context?

Sounds like Sets incl. Empty ones. (if you define Context as Container for Experience and all is Experience including the Container, then that version of Context is Capital C being infused as a Dual Lens into everything referable, even in lowercase c non-context can be perceived as an unawareness of possible contexts necessitated in their infused definition into all of Experience)

[Sugarcoat]

33 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Ha, just after reading your comment, I opened a random page of a book, and the first words I saw were "physical self." Take that, Carl!

If we think of context as analogous to space, then a self-context would be the room in which the self exists - including the interpretation of it as the receiver of perceptive input, which I assume you were pointing to in your claim. Context sounds abstract and detached, as if, but it can involve objects and related processes, including the body, perception, etc. Anyway, 'body' and 'self' - up for grabs.

Probably a cool book

Well if context is the space then it’s not the objects in it according to your logic or maybe I’m not getting you there

Maybe I’m too much in a vegetative state mentally to comprehend 

 

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

That's pretty condescending. We are all going to die, being afraid of death is natural and can spark a desire to face death consciously through non-dual teachings. Besides that, do you have any original thoughts or opinions on this subject?

I shouldn’t have made that joke. My apologies 

My mission to clear my name on the forum is not going so well

To give an original thought (it’s not original it’s probably what the materialists think) : I think consciousness is limited and dual. It’s always conscious of ~something~ . Without the ~something~ to be conscious of, there’s just absence, and in that is no consciousness. Consciousness arises when there’s something (duality) to be conscious of. And it seems it also simultaneously requires a subject, that possesses that consciousness.

Edited August 24 by Sugarcoat

[UnbornTao]

@Keryo Koffa Thank you, but you're being way too abstract and fancy in my view - not that there's anything wrong with that, but it makes it incredibly challenging to understand what you're saying. The topic is already difficult enough on its own.

Could you ground it in something more relatable, experiential - maybe use a few examples?

As another user already mentioned, the dictionary definition could be a good starting point:

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con- ‘together’ + texere ‘to weave’.

1. the circumstances that form the setting for an event, statement, or idea, and in terms of which it can be fully understood.
2. the parts of something written or spoken that immediately precede and follow a word or passage and clarify its meaning.

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[UnbornTao]

28 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Well if context is the space then it’s not the objects in it according to your logic or maybe I’m not getting you there

Sure, the context isn't found in the objects - it is the "room" where the objects are made sense of. "This is my body, this desire of mine, I was angry and am excited now", and so on. 

Something like that. 

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

8 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Sure, the context isn't found in the objects - it is the "room" where the objects are made sense of. "This is my body, this desire of mine, I was angry and am excited now", and so on. 

Something like that. 

Yea I think I understand. For me context is most interesting in terms how we create context to this present moment using the mind. In fact we have never experienced for example the country we live in, which is like a context to our location (if I’m using the term correctly).

[Keryo Koffa]

21 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Could you ground it in something more relatable, experiential - maybe use a few examples?

My 🧠 when I hear the word "ground": 

 

[UnbornTao]

@Keryo Koffa Well, you put on your socks before your shoes, so give it a try.

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Hmmmm if you are familiar with AI - it spits out lots of fancy examples but dances around the question, with difficult topics such as these. I see patterns 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀

[UnbornTao]

12 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea I think I understand. For me context is most interesting in terms how we create context to this present moment using the mind. In fact we have never experienced for example the country we live in, which is like a context to our location (if I’m using the term correctly).

Something like that, yes. 

The mind is also a context. 

[Sugarcoat]

10 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Something like that, yes. 

The mind is also a context. 

I’ll just let that be. Heh

[Keryo Koffa]

54 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea I think I understand. For me context is most interesting in terms how we create context to this present moment using the mind. In fact we have never experienced for example the country we live in, which is like a context to our location (if I’m using the term correctly).

54 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Yea context contextualizes context contextually. For me context is most contextual in context contextuality contextualizing context to this contextual context contextualizing the context. In context contexts have never contextualized for context the context we context in, which is like a context to our context (if I’m contextualizing the context contextually).

39 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

Something like context, yes.  The context contexualizes contextself also as context.  

29 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Context’ll just context that be. Heh

Thought for a while
Change through Discerned Comprehending Intent
Intent is not the Phenomenological Patterns it rearranges and represents itself through.
Context is an Awareness of Construct Persistence through Pattern Reorganization.

Perception inspired Mind-Constructs condition Responses.
Constructing an Inner Reality in the Awareness of Interplays.

Context = Conditionality-Awareness

[UnbornTao]

@Keryo Koffa I'm probably not the only one who doesn't get what you're saying. Be as clear as possible, or just dumb it down for us plebs.

Edited August 24 by UnbornTao

[Sugarcoat]

@Keryo Koffa The doctors gave me anti psychotics maybe you need them more than me😏

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

If you truly understood you could translate it to simple terms that others can understand 

The man has worditis, and the only prescription is concepts.

[Sugarcoat]

4 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The man has worditis, and the only prescription is concepts.

Alternative medicine

[Keryo Koffa]

32 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

@Keryo Koffa The doctors gave me anti psychotics maybe you need them more than me😏

Switching to pro-psychotics should make it easier to understand,
I'm trying to acquire schizophrenia myself, but it's harder than it looks

Try visualizing and treating the words as a whirlpool of pointers to infer the means by which they become arranged. 

But yeah, I get that a lot, after all I'm trying to accelerate all the AIs to take over humanity,
so I have limited time and just abstract everything since they already have the datasets. 

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, Keryo Koffa said:

Switching to pro-psychotics should make it easier to understand,
I'm trying to acquire schizophrenia myself, but it's harder than it looks

Try visualizing and treating the words as a whirlpool of pointers to infer the means by which they become arranged. 

But yeah, I get that a lot, after all I'm trying to accelerate all the AIs to take over humanity,
so I have limited time and just abstract everything since they already have the datasets. 

So you’re interested in altered states is what I’m getting

[Schizophonia]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

interested in altered states

For some reason today i go through a state of self honesty, close to what i can feel on 4 ho met.

When i read the topic here i feel like everybody is insane and unconsciously subject to authoritarian forces, archetypes lol.

Like I'm coming from the topic about "should I have friends" and I just laughed to myself about the fact that op asked me that, and you answered something like it's normal to use people "to develop yourself".

Everything sounds goofy and nonsensical; i crave beer, cigars and laughing alone.