Nonsense of Solipsism / God / İnfinite / Nothing Realizations

[James123]

Solipsism is a word that "the view or that the self is all that can be known to exist". 

Self is word that "a person's essential being that distinguishes them from others, especially considered as the object of introspection or reflexive action".

Actually, self is accumulated of attachments or beliefs, which are birth, death, existence, universe, realization, gender, country, god, religion etc... These are accumulation of beliefs, which creates the self or person or personality.

Therefore, Solipsism is a word that belief or experienced by the self. Therefore, attachment of self, therefore, become one with self, and so called creates the new self. As an  example, before solipsism realization "I am god" after solipsism realization, "I am god and god is all exist (therefore believing in solipsism is inevitable)". Or before god realization "I am a spiritual person" after god realization, "I am god". Or before infinite realization "I am god" after infinite realization, "I am god or infinite, or I am god and god is infinite". Or before nothing realization "I am a god" after nothing realization, "I am nothing, and god is nothing". These variables can be change. However, these are all based on beliefs.

However, entire spiritual work is based on letting go or surrendering the self (any beliefs, any experiences or realizations, birth, death, belief, death, existence, universe, gender, country, god, religion etc...)

Therefore, self is based on any beliefs and experiences (including solipsism realization, God realization, nothing realization, infinite realization etc...).

Let go the self that has various of beliefs and lifting veil will be inevitable. Then directly conscious or be of What You really are.

[VeganAwake]

9 hours ago, James123 said:

Let go the self that has various of beliefs and lifting veil will be inevitable. Then directly conscious or be of What You really are.

Self illusion cant let go of itself, because itself is all it knows. 

The very thing attempting to let go and benefit, IS the illusion of self.

It's recognized behind this self illusion.

Like emptiness recognizing emptiness.

This apparent letting go isn't a physical action, it's a result of clearly seeing it never was!

❤️ 

 

[Sugarcoat]

22 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

Self illusion cant let go of itself, because itself is all it knows. 

The very thing attempting to let go and benefit, IS the illusion of self.

It's recognized behind this self illusion.

Like emptiness recognizing emptiness.

This apparent letting go isn't a physical action, it's a result of clearly seeing it never was!

❤️ 

 

Do you think the brain is involved in enlightenment?

 

[James123]

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Self illusion cant let go of itself, because itself is all it knows. 

So how do you know? 😊 

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

The very thing attempting to let go and benefit, IS the illusion of self.

 Letting go is not attempting, it is surrendering. There is no illusion of self. Self is already an illusion.

2 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

It's recognized behind this self illusion.

Where is this self illusion and it can be behind?

[Carl-Richard]

Spirituality is the finger trying to point at itself. And when a spiritual teacher points, they are really just giving you the finger.

— if Eric Weinstein was into spirituality.

Edited July 25 by Carl-Richard

[Hojo]

@SugarcoatYes it is. Its powered by your crown chakra. We are like magnetic fields (attractors or Gods the great attractor) in consciousness. If you kundalini you will feel all your neurons firing off like fireworks in your head as your energy bursts through your skull and out of your body into another dimension. It feels like a nuclear bomb of good feelings. Like each neuron explodes into a million I love yous. 

When you get to the dimension you see its heaven and you have always been there with God. You are even there right now. Every one is in heaven with God right now.

Edited July 25 by Hojo

[VeganAwake]

9 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Do you think the brain is involved in enlightenment?

 

Couldn't say for sure. Maybe a different part of the brain realizes this entire "me construct" was never real.

So here it seemed to anyways.

Maybe a flexibility of the brain/mind. 🤷‍♂️

Either way, that clear realization is what allows for the relaxation or energetic shift away from upholding this needy "me construct" 

Before it occurs, that energetic tension is hardly even noticed because the body is so used to it........after it's quite surprising how much energy goes into it.

And that relaxation time frame seems to vary from body to body. 

❤️ 

[VeganAwake]

8 hours ago, James123 said:

So how do you know? 😊 

 Letting go is not attempting, it is surrendering. There is no illusion of self. Self is already an illusion.

Where is this self illusion and it can be behind?

Yup, it's not really there and nobody knows it.

I used the word behind because the me illusion always hogs all the attention.....it's always front row at the orchestra 🤣

🫶

[James123]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Yup, it's not really there and nobody knows it.

I used the word behind because the me illusion always hogs all the attention.....it's always front row at the orchestra 🤣

🫶

If nobody knows it, "you" shouldn't be know what you just write or shouldn't be understand what I told you. 

[Mellowmarsh]

You can’t know IT because you are IT

[Sugarcoat]

13 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

Couldn't say for sure. Maybe a different part of the brain realizes this entire "me construct" was never real.

So here it seemed to anyways.

Maybe a flexibility of the brain/mind. 🤷‍♂️

Either way, that clear realization is what allows for the relaxation or energetic shift away from upholding this needy "me construct" 

Before it occurs, that energetic tension is hardly even noticed because the body is so used to it........after it's quite surprising how much energy goes into it.

And that relaxation time frame seems to vary from body to body. 

❤️ 

Yes I understand. Enlightenment won’t necessarily lead to an understanding of the brain/mind (maybe they are relative concepts)

Thanks for your answer!

I resonate with what you write here on the forum, you seem genuine

In my own life, I kinda have noticed how it’s my mind that creates or at least contributes to my sense of self. And it seems it’s the brain that produces the mind. And how it’s like also an energetic structure 

And I relate so much to what you say about the energetic tension!

I have not experienced a ~total~ loss of self, but I have experienced a gradual weakening of the self, a kind of dissolution of some of the layers to it. And the softer it got, the less tension in the body and mind, it’s actually crazy! I felt it like energetic knots, particularly in abdomen for example. 
 

I do feel though that my brain/mind still does this activity of upholding the self, why it does that, must be just how it’s designed to do, idk

If enlightenment is to do with the brain, then things that could rewire the brain such as meditation and psychedelics maybe can increase the likely hood of the self dropping…. Just my 2 cents 

[Sugarcoat]

14 hours ago, Hojo said:

@SugarcoatYes it is. Its powered by your crown chakra. We are like magnetic fields (attractors or Gods the great attractor) in consciousness. If you kundalini you will feel all your neurons firing off like fireworks in your head as your energy bursts through your skull and out of your body into another dimension. It feels like a nuclear bomb of good feelings. Like each neuron explodes into a million I love yous. 

When you get to the dimension you see its heaven and you have always been there with God. You are even there right now. Every one is in heaven with God right now.

I can kinda relate. I have experienced flow of energy upwards in my body up to my skull like a release. Also a lot of energy felt flowing during sleep paralysis. Also having visions of the crown chakra. 

[VeganAwake]

On 7/25/2025 at 0:51 PM, Sugarcoat said:

If enlightenment is to do with the brain, then things that could rewire the brain such as meditation and psychedelics maybe can increase the likely hood of the self dropping…. Just my 2 cents 

I know what you mean.

Nothing actually drops away and it's not like forgetting who you were or something. It's actually clear how the illusion of self is formed and maintained. Energy is no longer given to it and it begins to dissolve. 

At some point, it can just become obvious that the self construct isn't really there. Psychedelics/meditation or not.

It's kind of like realizing Santa Claus isn't real. Once it's seen clearly, not much energy goes into upholding the Santa belief 😉 

❤️ 

[Sugarcoat]

8 hours ago, VeganAwake said:

It's actually clear how the illusion of self is formed and maintained.

How is it formed and maintained if you don’t mind elaborating?

I feel my mind images a self image kinda, and maybe the mind is produced by the brain 

[ExploringReality]

On 7/24/2025 at 7:48 PM, Carl-Richard said:

Spirituality is the finger trying to point at itself. And when a spiritual teacher points, they are really just giving you the finger.

— if Eric Weinstein was into spirituality.

They're giving us the middle finger hahah. Man I have this thirst to touch the transcendental, ineffable Real. 

[VeganAwake]

6 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

How is it formed and maintained if you don’t mind elaborating?

I feel my mind images a self image kinda, and maybe the mind is produced by the brain 

It doesn't actually form because its not really there, but it seems to start at a young age of 3 or 4. Adults and parents tell you who you are and what is expected of you and so on. A self image is slowly created over time and becomes very important very quickly.

Experiences, memories, thoughts,  things you are told and believe, things you learn, your surroundings,  reflections in the mirror etc  etc........these all assist in creating that illusory self image.  

An unreal product of its surroundings, but seems completely real and solid usually.

Even if the self image doesn't feel that real or solid, once it's threatened or pushed to far.....it comes out of the woodwork quickly. 

It layers, morphs and changes also like different versions of the same self-illusion.

❤️ 

[ZenSwift]

There's self and then Self with a Capital S. Important distinction that I feel is not being made here. 

 

Solipsism is the realization that Self with a capital S is all that exists. Which is what you are. 

[James123]

On 7/31/2025 at 8:43 AM, ZenSwift said:

There's self and then Self with a Capital S. Important distinction that I feel is not being made here. 

 

Solipsism is the realization that Self with a capital S is all that exists. Which is what you are. 

When you say, “Solipsism is the realization that Self is all that exists,” you are still playing the game of the mind.

Still trying to explain the ocean in a teacup.

But if Self is all and if Self is truly all,

Then what is there to realize? Who is left to realize it?

There is no explanation.

Only this,

Self, Self, Self, Self, Self.

Like a heartbeat of the cosmos.

Because, “Solipsism is the realization that Self is all that exists,” already creates a division, because words or sounds are different. If the Self is all exist, the sentence should be "Self, Self, Self, Self, Self".

Not an idea. Not a philosophy. Not a clever conclusion.

Just is-ness, suchness.

No boundaries, no observer, no observed.

Just Self.

So don’t give it a name, don’t give it a theory.

Just fall into it. Dissolve.

And then there is no you. Only That.

Edited 22 hours ago by James123

[Sincerity]

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

When you say, “Solipsism is the realization that Self is all that exists,” you are still playing the game of the mind.

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

Just Self.

This is literally what is being said. You're being pretentious.

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the sentence should be "Self, Self, Self, Self, Self".

🤦‍♂️

Edited 22 hours ago by Sincerity

[James123]

2 minutes ago, Sincerity said:

This is literally what is being said. You're being pretentious.

What is the solipsism if there is Just Self? 😊 For example, solipsism is different word then Self. So, if everything is Self, how can be two different words? 😊