Fake Spirituality Examples Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

22 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

@Leo Gura

thoughts?

I would need much more details to have an opinion.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I would need much more details to have an opinion.

One of your mods claiming that neo-advaita is The Biggest example of fake spirituality.

I’m not even sure if neo advaita is the same as radical nonduality. Google says people like Tony Parsons but also Nisargadatta are neo advaita.

Your thoughts?

[PurpleTree]

What more info/details would you need? 
 

[Carl-Richard]

On 22.7.2025 at 4:42 AM, Inliytened1 said:

The biggest to me is neo-advaita

A.k.a. undermining the importance of practice and the teachings that convey them? 🫢

[Leo Gura]

45 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

A.k.a. undermining the importance of practice and the teachings that convey them? 🫢

Who said that? 

Edited Wednesday at 03:50 PM by Leo Gura

[PurpleTree]

 
I mean i don’t think the answer is important.

But i feel like Leo is evading that question and i don’t see why.

[Princess Arabia]

3 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

One of your mods claiming that neo-advaita is The Biggest example of fake spirituality.

I’m not even sure if neo advaita is the same as radical nonduality. Google says people like Tony Parsons but also Nisargadatta are neo advaita.

Your thoughts?

It doesn't matter what a mod says, it's still, whatever this is, talking and speaking so it's this saying neo advaita is fake Spirituality. That mod doesn't exist outside it's own reality and doesn't know what's fake from what's real because it itself isn't real, nothing is only appears to be. So enjoy the ride....or not.

Edited Wednesday at 04:12 PM by Princess Arabia

[PurpleTree]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

It doesn't matter what a mod says, it's still, whatever this is, talking and speaking so it's this saying neo advaita is fake Spirituality. That mod doesn't exist outside it's own reality and doesn't know what's fake from what's real because it itself isn't real. 

I know it doesn’t matter. Just would have liked to hear Leos 2 cents on the matter (which also doesn’t matter)

[_Archangel_]

PBD shows a map of consciousness to deflect from Epstein topic, some of the best unintentional comedy

 

Edited Wednesday at 04:15 PM by _Archangel_

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I know it doesn’t matter. Just would have liked to hear Leos 2 cents on the matter (which also doesn’t matter)

I hear ya. 

[CARDOZZO]

The truth is: Real spirituality is not about external reality, debating on forums or watching videos. The real sages would not watch Actualized.org

Leo spoiled all of us. He is extremely developed but we as members are just bullshitting ourselves thinking that we are really developed. Read Ralston's work and walk alone.

Insight and understanding is all you need.

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, CARDOZZO said:

The truth is: Real spirituality is not about external reality, debating on forums or watching videos. The real sages would not watch Actualized.org

Leo spoiled all of us. He is extremely developed but we as members are just bullshitting ourselves thinking that we are really developed. Read Ralston's work and walk alone.

Insight and understanding is all you need.

I mean i didn’t got into "spirituality” because of Leo. Real “sages" assumtions and hogwash.

[CARDOZZO]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I mean i didn’t got into "spirituality” because of Leo. Real “sages" assumtions and hogwash.

I know it hurts hearing that you are wrong. I am wrong. What do you think is more pleasurable: watching a video or working your ass off to have deep insights for yourself?

Real spirituality is painful, working alone, suffering, hours of contemplation and meditation, being wrong, looking into your dark shadow. 

Real spirituality is about learning to walk alone. This is where the real game begins. 

[Breakingthewall]

4 hours ago, PurpleTree said:

One of your mods claiming that neo-advaita is The Biggest example of fake spirituality.

I’m not even sure if neo advaita is the same as radical nonduality. Google says people like Tony Parsons but also Nisargadatta are neo advaita.

Your thoughts?

Neo advaita is false because says that reality is nondual and that reality is consciousness. Consciousness implies perception, and perception implies duality. Consciousness is a quality of reality; reality is you, and you are not consciousness; you are total. The absolute. Consciousness is a superficial perspective, supposedly nondual but stuck in the relative.

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

I know it hurts hearing that you are wrong. I am wrong. What do you think is more pleasurable: watching a video or working your ass off to have deep insights for yourself?

Real spirituality is painful, working alone, suffering, hours of contemplation and meditation, being wrong, looking into your dark shadow. 

Real spirituality is about learning to walk alone. This is where the real game begins. 

Ok so you’re saying we “should” log off or close the forum and then we can be real sages like the people on your books? Or what exactly are you saying 

 

[PurpleTree]

2 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

Neo advaita is false because says that reality is nondual and that reality is consciousness. Consciousness implies perception, and perception implies duality. Consciousness is a quality of reality; reality is you, and you are not consciousness; you are total. The absolute. Consciousness is a superficial perspective, supposedly nondual but stuck in the relative.

Radical nonduality says not that. Look at my thread which talked about that.

[CARDOZZO]

Just now, PurpleTree said:

Ok so you’re saying we “should” log off or close the forum and then we can be real sages like the people on your books? Or what exactly are you saying 

 

Sure. The forum is extremely valuable but it makes you lazy. The real work is alone doing contemplation or meditation. It is not about debates, spiritual bypassing or watching videos/making bullet point notes of what Leo said.

[CARDOZZO]

I'm done. Love you all ❤️

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, CARDOZZO said:

Sure. The forum is extremely valuable but it makes you lazy. The real work is alone doing contemplation or meditation. It is not about debates, spiritual bypassing or watching videos/making bullet point notes of what Leo said.

I honestly don’t understand what you’re saying. How do you know we don’t go "deep” or whatever alone? I mean same with psychedelics, you go it alone.

[Breakingthewall]

8 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Radical nonduality says not that. Look at my thread which talked about that.

What says essentially?

Edited Wednesday at 04:46 PM by Breakingthewall