James123

Reason Why Enlightenment is Difficult for you and if happened what is waiting

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4 minutes ago, James123 said:

"I" is the biggest belief. 

Then there are two more beliefs you have to stop doing to be effortless according to your belief system...it's much simpler to not have self created and imposed conditions for someone to 'do' for awakening and enlightenment.

This is efforting in an attempt to be effortless and is like having a process to not have a process. There is no requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing, this is self created and imposed conditions.

The continuous loop of hoop jumping the conditional mind creates is the hamster wheel of methods and practices designed to empower the self. It's feeding the identity obsessed ego to believe it has the 'truth' and another is 'false'.

Sometimes the mind chatters, so what. Sometimes emotions arise, it happens. Sometimes the body itches, then scratch. The body does what it does yet we can have awareness that transcends this, not a belief they prevent awakening, or it does.

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48 minutes ago, SOUL said:

This is efforting in an attempt to be effortless and is like having a process to not have a process.

Therefore, gateless gate. 

49 minutes ago, SOUL said:

Sometimes the mind chatters, so what. Sometimes emotions arise, it happens. Sometimes the body itches, then scratch.

Where is that mind that chatters much? 

43 minutes ago, SOUL said:

There is no requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing, this is self created and imposed conditions.

So, that's a self for you 😊 

 

46 minutes ago, SOUL said:

The continuous loop of hoop jumping the conditional mind creates is the hamster wheel of methods and practices designed to empower the self. It's feeding the identity obsessed ego to believe it has the 'truth' and another is 'false'.

Method of not knowing or letting go ? 😊 How if the one completely not know or let go, can know what is the Truth or false? 😊 

54 minutes ago, SOUL said:

The body does what it does yet we can have awareness that transcends this, not a belief they prevent awakening, or it does.

Where are you that can have awareness? 😊 

Okey man, you enjoy talking, let's talk ❤️ 


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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6 minutes ago, James123 said:

Therefore, gateless gate. 

Therefore, senseless nonsense.

7 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where is that mind that chatters much?

Why are people so obsessed with asking 'where'? Or 'who'? More senseless nonsense?

9 minutes ago, James123 said:

So, that's a self for you

'Where' is the requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing? 'Who' is it that says anyone 'must' do this?

11 minutes ago, James123 said:

Method of not knowing or letting go ? 😊 How if the one completely not know or let go, can know what is the Truth or false? 😊 

You seem to suggest it would make sense to ask others 'where' is the 'who' that knows what is truth or false? So... 'where' and 'who' can know 'what' is 'truth' or 'false'? This is fun...but still senseless nonsense.

14 minutes ago, James123 said:

Where are you that can have awareness?

'Where' are 'you' that can let go or be effortless?

Online discourse is filled with spiritualism double speak that gets exposed for the senseless nonsense it is with the simplest contemplation.

18 minutes ago, James123 said:

Okey man, you enjoy talking, let's talk

Well, I do enjoy bringing some simple clarity to something that is often clouded with esoteric abstractions. People like to stack up complicated rationale and complex beliefs to create an ideological basis for their psychological machinations.

I enjoy stripping those away from my own psyche and will encourage it for others if they wish to. Even as people claim to have no beliefs, no concepts, no self, no nothing nowhere because where is it? Where? Where? Are we there yet?

I encourage the letting go of letting go, ceasing the releasing...don't lease it to begin with then no need to release it. I don't say you must not must, you can trust your must if you see fit but project your must on others? Must you?

It seems like you enjoy talking, too.

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46 minutes ago, SOUL said:

Therefore, senseless nonsense.

Why are people so obsessed with asking 'where'? Or 'who'? More senseless nonsense?

'Where' is the requirement to do something to undo the doing so one can not be doing? 'Who' is it that says anyone 'must' do this?

You seem to suggest it would make sense to ask others 'where' is the 'who' that knows what is truth or false? So... 'where' and 'who' can know 'what' is 'truth' or 'false'? This is fun...but still senseless nonsense.

'Where' are 'you' that can let go or be effortless?

Online discourse is filled with spiritualism double speak that gets exposed for the senseless nonsense it is with the simplest contemplation.

Well, I do enjoy bringing some simple clarity to something that is often clouded with esoteric abstractions. People like to stack up complicated rationale and complex beliefs to create an ideological basis for their psychological machinations.

I enjoy stripping those away from my own psyche and will encourage it for others if they wish to. Even as people claim to have no beliefs, no concepts, no self, no nothing nowhere because where is it? Where? Where? Are we there yet?

I encourage the letting go of letting go, ceasing the releasing...don't lease it to begin with then no need to release it. I don't say you must not must, you can trust your must if you see fit but project your must on others? Must you?

It seems like you enjoy talking, too.

I love doing anything ❤️ 

All answer of these questions are in thread but I will make it easy like a story 😊 

There is a self/action/mind/birth/belief/knowing/past/future/ attachment with thoughts or any other attachment/experience/God/infinite etc... 

When this self do do completely opposite of action, which are not knowing/actionless/effortlessness etc... self drops. Then there is no experience, belief, experiencer, mind, realization, you, me, god, infinite, etc... disseappears. That's what We really are. İf I can call something, I call it "Being or Source or Moment".

After that any beliefs, attachments drops, therefore mind becomes quite (no more suffering) and being the moment is inevitable. However, dream still continues (life is a magic). You talk through the body, however, You are not attached to it. There is no past or future, just now, and there is no sense of self.

And lastly, Present moment has a gift to itself, which is Love. That's the only reason of creation. 

Body will die sooner or later enjoy your time before it's too late. This is the last chance. Moreover, Real enjoying only lies within love.


"It is impossible for a man to learn what he thinks he already knows."

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13 hours ago, James123 said:

I, universe, god, infinite, any beliefs (including the enlightenment) can not be so called enlightened. When all these drops then so called enlightenment happens, which is the present moment, now, source. Therefore, so called "speaking" from the source is inevitable.

Story time ❤️ 

I was making money from modeling. I had a open heart surgery and lost my career, psychic and money. After that I started to question existence. And started to meditate. While that, I lost my dad and had a seizure. Because of that I have completely dedicated myself for God or Truth. Therefore, start to contemplate, use psychedelics and more meditation, then I have realized that I am infinite, God, everything etc... Moreover, I was diagnosed with ADHD, Major depression and ocd. I was trying let go the ego in order to be god, infinite, knowing everything as in psychedelic state. Than, The last hit came with my son had diagnosed with tachycardia, then I was devastated. All my work, being God, infinite, human, contemplation, being good or bad and meditations etc... were for nothing. After that I have lost all hope, expectations (including breathing or thinking), and let go anything and everything without any expectation (even give up the god, infinite and lost hope of everything). Moreover , I was home, just didn't even hold the body and i fall on the floor. Then rest is come as in the thread. 

Quotes are deriving in now, which is the source. 

@all Do you guys still not understand that you have to give up everything? It's so simple it's tragicomical.


Intrinsic joy = being x meaning ²

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Effortless force


Deal with the issue now, on your terms, in your control. Or the issue will deal with you, in ways you won't appreciate, and cannot control.

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