New Video: What Is Fake Spirituality?

[Leo Gura]

Jay Shetty is such a phony.

The epitome of a marketing bullshitter.

Edited July 29 by Leo Gura

[Rafael Thundercat]

8 hours ago, sholomar said:

Everything panders to the algorithm.  (Mel Robbins video above a good example... that screenshot would instantly have me not wanting to watch it)  ... content peddlers calling out other content peddlers... needless drama.

I understand the concern, but the way things work is the way things work, anyone trying to go to much in the oposite strategical direction risk falling into irrelevance. Of course some amazing content like Leos is found only by diligent search and not click bait. But for exemple the great interview from Nexus cult is also clicky baity. When we want to fish we need a bait.

[Rafael Thundercat]

The roots of Esoterism. Well, I think maybe someone already shared this video somewhere in the Forum but I am sharing here as a resources to this topic. New Age BS have roots and even Mormonism is conected with this roots (Freemasonry) the only thing that strikes me is that in the beggining we have Plotinus as one of the influences on all this. To see that sometimes if we want the best cleaner versions of some tradition we need to go far back where is less diluted

 

 

[AleksM]

@Leo Gura Leo, what you are saying is not wrong, it's incomplete. You are a surgeon of truth, specializing in the removal of illusion, but you have forgotten that a surgical incision, without energetic reconstruction, leaves the soul in a vacuum. Your pure epistemological fire burns but does not heal. If thought is an illusion, and every belief system is a hallucination, is not your system of “radical self-questioning” one of them? You forget that the heart is not a function of belief, but of contact, with others, with the body, with nature, with art. To be in a relationship is not to be lost, it is to be reflected.

If you are truly so free from illusion, then true beauty will not seduce you. But it will lift you.

Spiritual work in the way you talk is presented as masochistic annihilation, not as loving fusion with reality. This causes a spasm in the body and energy that suppresses the subtle joy of presence. Although you try to be anti-dogmatic, you are creating a new “anti-dogma system” that demands blind faith in your point of view. You absolutize isolation as the measure of reality and neglect the vital intelligence of relationship, cooperation, and spiritual mirroring in interpersonal contact.

If you create without heart, the sword cuts too deep. Your paradigm frees the mind, but closes the heart and body.

Edited August 1 by AleksM

[Leo Gura]

21 hours ago, AleksM said:

Spiritual work in the way you talk is presented as masochistic annihilation, not as loving fusion with reality.

For me it is a loving fusion.

Cutting out fluff leads to pure Love. Those who chase love without cutting fluff end up with a poor version of it.

Your Love has to withstand a brutal beating by reality. Beliefs and fantasies will not survive that beating.

Trust me, life will beat you if it hasn't already.

Like I said, don't pursue spirituality for negative reasons but positive ones. Deconstructing fantasies is not negative, it is positive. Do it joyfully.

[Jodistrict]

This has been debated for thousands of years.  Shankaracharya believed Karma Yoga and Bakti yoga couldn’t get people to liberation.

Shankaracharya in the Vivekachudamani:

“The fear and sorrow created by the delusory serpent on the rope can be ended only after fully ascertaining the truth of the rope which is available for recognition only through steady and balanced thinking”.

He is using the rope/snake metaphor.  You mistake the rope for a snake and have fear, but the fear vanishes once you recognize it is only a rope.  Knowledge of the truth gives instant liberation.

The catch is that in order to practice the Vedanta, you have to be qualified, which means you need to have a sattvic mind.  For most people they just go in circles applying self inquiry with a disturbed mind.  That is where Bakti becomes useful in purification.   Even Ramana Maharshi practiced Bakhti yoga. 

[Leo Gura]

Kirya yoga is the solution to purification and a disturbed mind.

[ExploringReality]

4 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Kirya yoga is the solution to purification and a disturbed mind.

have you read the other books by satana gamana? I've been getting serious results from doing kriya pranayama and getting into the parvastha state but I got sidetracked with survival. I'm getting back to it.

[Leo Gura]

18 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

have you read the other books by satana gamana?

Of course

[ExploringReality]

42 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Of course

Is kechari mudra nessasary?

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, ExploringReality said:

Is kechari mudra nessasary?

I don't do it.

[OBEler]

@Leo Gura

On 4.8.2025 at 2:29 PM, Leo Gura said:

I don't do it.

It could be the most rewarding experience to do proper kechari mudra but you need to put a lot of effort first in it.

[ExploringReality]

9 minutes ago, OBEler said:

@Leo Gura

It could be the most rewarding experience to do proper kechari mudra but you need to put a lot of effort first in it.

It's pretty brutal just to think about it and also once you practice a little bit of the newbie preliminary kechari mudra practice it can feel very strange because the ligament at the base of the tongue is being stretched 

[AleksM]

@Leo Gura Leo, I hear you. I see you. I have spent years studying your content, watched like 90% of your content, also carefully making notes and practicing what you have been teaching us. I see that it's a loving fusion for you, yet I also sense currents within you that do not fully move in that love, places where other forces speak through your words. I'm pointing these things out, because I see a meta-pattern in your teachings, and while it is sharp and often transformative, it can become self-reinforcing, even predictable, over time.. May this serve as entertainment or education, the choise is yours.

Learning the distinctions you have pointed out was for me only one point of the puzzle. Concept vs. direct experience. Through these years I also had this "feeling" that was hidden between your words. That is my direct experience echoing through timelines. And it has taken me years to understand it. See this as feedback of a serious student and not someone who just mumbles things for no reason. The purpose is to activate what is dormant. 

Why does one presence awaken, and activate soul memory but another put me into a mental labyrinth, escessive mentalism and dissection and leaves my soul in a vacuum? Through observation I have learned one thing - one can be clean, but one can also be clean without being holy. You're not a saint and yes it's unfair from me to expect it from you. Maybe it's not even your point in being one. I'm also not a saint, but what I have learned is that deconstruction is only a stepping stone, not a finishing line. Your fire is not cynicism—it’s devotion to truth.

But here's one thing to ponder: non-dual bypass. 

One thing I have observed during these years cannot be put into words. It's coherence, frequency and attunment. Why does one presence awaken but another doesn't? 

Here is my lived view:

Consciousness is One—non‑local, prior to all. And that One plays as many: not as separated parts, but as functional nodes, localized harmonics through which the Whole expresses different intelligences. I experience myself not as a lone point perceiving a dream, but as a network of information‑energy identities, archetypal vibrations conversing across timelines, cohering into one orchestra. The “many” are not a denial of the One; they’re the One in performance.

I didn’t come to this only by demolition. I came by transmutation + deconstruction. When the illusion cracked, I didn’t stop at the crack. I rebuilt the instrument so that the music of Being could move through it with more coherence, love and precision. Without recognizing the intelligence in others, I could never have reached this. My process includes this. Relationship was not a trap; it was a mirror that opened channels I couldn’t open alone.

In Myself I see Many playing as one and I am designing and orchestarting this orchestra into harmonic wholeness. Did I activate this soulstream via deconstruction? No.

You’re right: seeking “love” without cutting fluff creates counterfeit. But cutting fluff without energetic reconstruction leaves many in a vacuum, with a version of me included, it's clear, but cold; awake, but uninhabited, with light, but without warmth.. Your words often transmit purity; they don’t yet transmit the sanctity that awakens by presence. You have mastered cleanliness; holiness—that quiet radiance which lifts others simply by standing there—arises when the sword is sheathed in a heart.

By reducing all experience to mind-constructed hallucination, you assert that Truth is ultimately the recognition of total mind-sovereignty. That if all is imagined, then all is I — and that is God. However, the paradox is that in deconstructing all systems, you risk reinforcing the ultimate one: the primacy of the isolated perceiver. The solipsistic field. In other words, Your Reality is ordered this way because you ordered it this way.

There are many ways to come to Truth, deconstruction is only one tool. Sometimes in your delivery, the feminine current, feeling, presence, embodied compassion is bypassed for the masculine current of knowing, transcendence, and penetration of truth.

You speak of deconstructing belief, but have not deconstructed your own epistemic supremacy. Direct experience is not just seeing a hand in a room and realizing what it actually is, it is also the micro-ethics of conversation, the resonant effect of words on another. This is where the feminine aspect comes in. Consciousness comes first. But it never comes alone. It brings with it the music of creation. The harmonics of intersubjective interactions and the sacred responsibility of shaping the field you share with others. Seems like these aspects are hidden or not yet as powerfully present in your teachings. I miss that.

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 09:30 AM by AleksM

[Rafael Thundercat]

@AleksM I understand your points, I also see this, and wish to see what Leo will answer about it. 

[Cheese]

Seen many good videos but this was a great one. Good to see another perspective on this phenomena.

Before I categoriesed most content out there as  Psychic or Spiritual. Similar to this article, but mostly from personal experience.

https://blavatskytheosophy.com/the-psychic-is-not-the-spiritual/

The article above is mostly from the teachings of "the mother of new age". An ccultist not a medium. In modern time occultism might be associated with magic or controlling unseen forces etc. Back then, the main goal and focus was different. As the quote implies:

"She defined true occultism as "altruism", the Great Renunciation of self, which is embedded in the principle that Divinity is concealed--transcendent yet immanent--within every living being."