How did you make peace with Solopsism?

[aurum]

50 minutes ago, Basman said:

I remember a metaphor by Teal Swan that went something like "you entered a room to paint and now that you are sitting in front of the canvas you are working so hard to escape it." Not an exact quote. 

Teal Swan followers are not awakening.

That's the problem with quotes like that.

[theleelajoker]

3 minutes ago, aurum said:

Teal Swan followers are not awakening.

That's the problem with quotes like that.

What do you mean?

[aurum]

4 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

What do you mean?

I mean she has a tendency to frame awakening as pointless because "you're just here to create and live life!!".

So then of course her followers don't awaken.

Which means they can't even understand that quote to begin with.

[PurpleTree]

I don’t really believe in solipsism.

I mean i don’t have an issue with the notion that lets say god created all divided itself and so on.

But i think the ego loves to hi jack ideas like solipsism.

[theleelajoker]

34 minutes ago, aurum said:

I mean she has a tendency to frame awakening as pointless because "you're just here to create and live life!!".

So then of course her followers don't awaken.

Which means they can't even understand that quote to begin with.

What does it mean then for you?

I certainly can resonate with "you're just here to create and live life" and the feeling of empty canvas an running away. Been there. 

Not saying that this is "awakening", we could already discuss what the concept means. But that's not my intention. 

Simply curios what "awakening" means for you and if it's not about creating life, what is it about in your opinion?

[aurum]

2 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

What does it mean then for you?

I certainly can resonate with "you're just here to create and live life" and the feeling of empty canvas an running away. Been there. 

Not saying that this is "awakening", we could already discuss what the concept means. But that's not my intention. 

Simply curios what "awakening" means for you and if it's not about creating life, what is it about in your opinion?

Awakening means becoming conscious that you are God and that everything is your Infinite Mind.

You do not get that by just "living life". "Living life" is the default of what everyone is doing. That's called dreaming.

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

Awakening means becoming conscious that you are God and that everything is your Infinite Mind.

You do not get that by just "living life". "Living life" is the default of what everyone is doing. That's called dreaming.

OK, now that you are conscious of that - what's next? 

My conclusion after my realization of oneness: Do what feels authentic for me as best as I can. Play the role I have been giving. Short: live life. 

[aurum]

9 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

OK, now that you are conscious of that - what's next? 

My conclusion after my realization of oneness: Do what feels authentic for me as best as I can. Play the role I have been giving. Short: live life. 

Yes, you can live your life.

The point was that Teal's followers aren't doing that. They are just asleep.

[Hojo]

@aurum You cant try to awaken. If you haven't awakened talking about it is harmful.

Its literally I burnt through all my karma as fast as possible. 

God gives you a certain amount of life to burn through if you are smart you will leave home and burn through it.

Taking tips from other people on how to awaken is bs unless they are guru and can awaken you by using logic specifically designed to your suffering.

Edited June 25 by Hojo

[aurum]

12 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@aurum You cant try to awaken. If you haven't awakened talking about it is harmful.

Its literally I burnt through all my karma as fast as possible. 

God gives you a certain amount of life to burn through if you are smart you will leave home and burn through it.

Taking tips from other people on how to awaken is bs unless they are guru and can awaken you by using logic specifically designed to your suffering.

I'm not sure how this relates to what I was saying.

[Basman]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

Yes, you can live your life.

The point was that Teal's followers aren't doing that. They are just asleep.

Who gives a shit about the ugly ducklings?

Learn from Hitler if you can.

[theleelajoker]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

Yes, you can live your life.

The point was that Teal's followers aren't doing that. They are just asleep.

Hmmmm...don't know all of Teal's followers. Also don't really know her. Seen a few videos, read some stuff.

My impression front these sources is that she mixes genuine insight and valuable information with personal agenda an narcissistic tendencies . But that's a superficial and far off view with little information...

[aurum]

33 minutes ago, Basman said:

Who gives a shit about the ugly ducklings?

Learn from Hitler if you can.

It matters because it shows how misleading a quote like that can be.

People will hear that and assume awakening doesn't matter.

20 minutes ago, theleelajoker said:

Hmmmm...don't know all of Teal's followers. Also don't really know her. Seen a few videos, read some stuff.

My impression front these sources is that she mixes genuine insight and valuable information with personal agenda an narcissistic tendencies . But that's a superficial and far off view with little information...

It's basically a combo of trauma-healing, new age spirituality and personal success / relationship advice.

She does not really teach Awakening. Maybe some superficial aspects.

[Basman]

7 minutes ago, aurum said:

It matters because it shows how misleading a quote like that can be.

People will hear that and assume awakening doesn't matter.

Just don't assume context. If you are on this forum you should be able to tell.

I don't see what the issue is here?

[Hojo]

5 hours ago, aurum said:

I mean she has a tendency to frame awakening as pointless because "you're just here to create and live life!!".

So then of course her followers don't awaken.

Which means they can't even understand that quote to begin with.

Living life fully will awaken you. Not trying to understand what awakening is you dont have to understand what it is. It will happen when you finish your allotted karma. When you finish your karma you will be at 0 energy completely done.

Living life fully can mean doing everything opposite of what spirituality is telling you. If you learn about spirituality and try to be spiritual when you aren't you could be fucking up your karma.

You can have no idea about spirituality and actively shit on it and awaken it happen to me.

Edited June 25 by Hojo

[OBEler]

@Hojo for most people it won't happen. Just because it happened to you you cannot conclude that this will work for everyone.

People with zero karma are no more awake than with full karma.