Is the West more developed from an SD perspective?

[Kid A]

18 hours ago, Hojo said:

If its a model its a model of collective humans not individual. Saying this person is a certain stage or i am a certain stage is masterbating.

I definitely agree with this. Spiral Dynamics may be the most interesting discovery in my lifetime, and I find it really spot on, but nothing makes me cringe more than when I see people say that this or that person is a certain color. Every single instinct in me tells me that this is not the way to go.

Edited June 24 by Kid A

[hyruga]

Yes the west is more advanced from a SD perspective. More people read books and talks about integration. However, the gap between the rich and poor in western countries seem to be widening. And there are some who have fallen to the wayside.

In other countries, they are mostly stage orange (still developing and gunning for money and power) or stage red (fighting for power and survival). Only a few countries like Japan, Singapore and UAE are really well developed physically. China has developed quite well and India is also rising. When these countries are more developed, their people will then start to develop more holistically.

Edited July 3 by hyruga

[Carl-Richard]

I wouldn't worry much about that, as people who consider themselves very developed are mostly just Blue 😆

Edited July 13 by Carl-Richard

[ryoko]

Spiral Dynamics only apply to the West. Path taken by other regions are quite different. And unique. Take Russia for example, I love their sense of sovereignty, despite failed revolutions. West in my eyes, is perverted form of growth. And Spiral Dynamics is way too Simple to analyse anything. 

[ryoko]

Try seeing everything through the values you consider highest. And don't label values as one stage or the other. It's a trap. 

The reason Spiral Dynamics seems to apply everywhere is due to Westernisation. 

Globalization is definitely something to strive for, but it's not supposed to happen through Westernisation and Colonization of the mind. Humans have a tendency to underestimate the effort it takes to achieve true unity. The unity backed by a history of exploiting own people and others, is no unity at all.