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Is the US now at war with Iran? (US vs. Iran Discussion)

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2 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Ur deflecting, and I get it, it's a bitter pill to swallow when the people you associate with are involved with something terrible. I'm a white South African, so I'm still dealing with the baggage of Apartheid.

Then you should have had enough with the bashing of Israel.  It's really overdone here.  


 

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1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

Then you should have had enough with the bashing of Israel.  It's really overdone here.  

I'm talking about Apartheid from the angle of : many white people in SA do not even want to look at the past. It doesnt mean they should be punished forever. But they probably will if they continue to live in denial of the truth of what happened. The genocide in Gaza is happening right now, and no one is doing anything about it. Did you think the outrage would simply wither away ?

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16 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

 

The genocide in Gaza is happening right now, and no one is doing anything about it. Did you think the outrage would simply wither away ?

What is special about happening right now vs has happened? I know it sounds crazy but think about it?  Six million Jews were wiped out in the Holocaust.  So you aren't talking about it because it isn't happening now?

Let's face it.  You guys want a punching bag and it was convenient to make it Israel. Because "it's happening now".  You don't really even know to what extent its actually happening now.   You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

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1 minute ago, Inliytened1 said:

What is special about happening right now vs has happened?

Can you see how hard it is to fully admit to yourself that the people you associate with are also involved with evil of the highest order ? It's a proper mindfuck. I speak from experience.

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"What, they have bigger dicks? Bomb them"! Maybe Iran is advancing their enrichment for nuclear power for negotiation leverage instead of actually wanting to use the bomb.

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5 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Can you see how hard it is to fully admit to yourself that the people you associate with are also involved with evil of the highest order ? It's a proper mindfuck. I speak from experience.

It's not hard at all. The problem is they won't give it a rest. They want to continue to pile onto Israel over and over. Its just old here.  Move on.   And now that Iran is attacked their the victim again and Israel is the villain.  Maybe that's not the case? Has anyone even considered it? No. Let's just defund them because that's what Biden would have done.

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29 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

What is special about happening right now vs has happened? I know it sounds crazy but think about it?  Six million Jews were wiped out in the Holocaust.  So you aren't talking about it because it isn't happening now?

Let's face it.  You guys want a punching bag and it was convenient to make it Israel. Because "it's happening now".  You don't really even know to what extent its actually happening now.   You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

Germany did loads of pennance type ceremonies and rituals to help clear it's karma. White South Africans have done some but not enough. At some point Israel will need to do the same. Im not jumping on any bandwagon, but clearly you are in denial of whats happening in Gaza, and thats understandable.

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56 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

 

The genocide in Gaza is happening right now, and no one is doing anything about it. Did you think the outrage would simply wither away ?

It's awful. But look. Again. Israel didn't start the war.  There were several groups who began the violence.  You cannot expect Israel to show mercy when their civilians were assaulted first and they have been persecuted for thousands of years.  Can you see how i am trying to show you both sides?  I never said that Israel was right for what it was doing.  Thats the whole issue with guys like @zazen here. Not to single him out but he really does have to expand his perspective because its very one sided.   He only wants to acknowledge one point of view.

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Just now, Inliytened1 said:

It's awful. But look. Again. Israel didn't start the war.  There were several groups who began the violence.  You cannot expect Israel to show mercy when their civilians were assaulted first and they have been persecuted for thousands of years.

Can you see that you are trying to justify a genocide ?

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3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Can you see that you are trying to justify a genocide ?

How i am justifying the killing of children when I said it was awful? Its awful.  That's what it is.  But it's war bro.  We dropped the bomb over Hiroshima and apparently @zazen has a big issue with that too   But it was war.


 

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2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

How i am justifying the killing of children when I said it was awful? Its awful.  That's what it is.  But it's war bro.  We dropped the bomb over Hiroshima and apparently @zazen has a big issue with that too   But it was war.

If Pakistan dropped a nuclear bomb on Israel, in revenge for Gaza, would you like it if someone said to you, it's just war bro

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7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

If Pakistan dropped a nuclear bomb on Israel, in revenge for Gaza, would you like it if someone said to you, it's just war bro

I would understand that it was war.   I think people fail to see that once the lines are drawn its me or you.  Yeah..you can place guidelines on that but ultimately it's going to be the best man wins.  And that may take getting the first punch in..or gauging the eyes out.  Whatever it takes to win. And it could get ugly. Very ugly. But we are talking about survival here.  And that becomes very savage at its core.  That's what war is.

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2 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I would understand that it was war.   I think people fail to see that once the lines are drawn its me or you.  Yeah..you can place guidelines on that but ultimately it's going to be the best man wins.  And that may take getting the first punch in..or gauging the eyes out.  Whatever it takes to win. And it could get ugly. Very ugly. But we are talking about survival here.  And that becomes very savage at its core.  That's what war is.

You dont think Israel could have eliminated Hamas any other way than a genocide ?

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1 minute ago, Wilhelm44 said:

You dont think Israel could have eliminated Hamas any other way than a genocide ?

They mishandled things.  Netanyahu is a tyrant i will not dispute that.


 

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5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

They mishandled things.  Netanyahu is a tyrant i will not dispute that.

Thats all I'm saying too.

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1 minute ago, Daniel Balan said:

#FuckReligion

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It's sad that this is where our society is today.  But that's where we are.  This has nothing to do with religion.  What are you talking about with religion, these leaders wouldn't know God if God slapped them in the face. Kind of funny right?  The stuff taught on this channel is literally more advanced then the leaders of our country are.  I'm not kidding around.   The stuff taught on this channel is literally more advanced then our President.  This shit is fucked up 


 

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@Inliytened1 from my personal experience, everytime, the more immersed in religion someone is, the eviler they are! Every damn time. And the people who are the least religious seem to be the most decent ones. Thats from my personal experience up until now! Religion breeds devils


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2 minutes ago, Daniel Balan said:

@Inliytened1 from my personal experience, everytime, the more immersed in religion someone is, the eviler they are! Every damn time. And the people who are the least religious seem to be the most decent ones. Thats from my personal experience up until now! Religion breeds devils

It's so ingrained.  My girlfriend was raised a Christian and there is no altering that.  I'm fucked. 


 

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35 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

I would understand that it was war.   I think people fail to see that once the lines are drawn its me or you.  Yeah..you can place guidelines on that but ultimately it's going to be the best man wins.  And that may take getting the first punch in..or gauging the eyes out.  Whatever it takes to win. And it could get ugly. Very ugly. But we are talking about survival here.  And that becomes very savage at its core.  That's what war is.

You are talking about Israel being so stuck in the victim mindset they are creating the conditions where it is survival. There were thousands of options but this route they've taken.

Even you are stuck in the victim mindset. Rather than work with the countries around you, Israel destroys them. Then complains, like this:

1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

Let's face it.  You guys want a punching bag and it was convenient to make it Israel. Because "it's happening now".  You don't really even know to what extent its actually happening now.   You're just jumping on the bandwagon.

While Israel wages a war and commits a genocide, you are saying, We want a punching bag when addressing you. 

On the one hand you say it's war, us or them, then you react like this when someone gives you the reality you want to perceive. In fact, if this were a true reflection of it, it'd be a violent reaction, not a moderated word on a forum; they'd be screaming in your face and attacking you. Do you not understand that?

YOU ARE CREATING THE PUNCHING BAG. How can I not make that any clearer? You create the reality. Right now you've made yourself into a punching bag for the next century or so.

*And BTW, so did the other side contribute to it; its a mutual creation. That's what people here don't want to hear or face, and you'd be better served talking about.

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