LA Protests

[Basman]

The American left seems to be a particular brand of stupid. It's so very optics based. Like immigration control is problematic just because it looks racist, irrespective if it actually is in of itself. 

In Denmark, you have to go far, far left all the the way to the fringes of the political aisle before anyone even starts thinking that controlled immigration is problematic. there isn't this noise of if its even slightly conservative its automatically bad. 

Political polarization is Americas most toxic cultural export, as I see it kind of spread through the internet. 

[PurpleTree]

3 minutes ago, Basman said:

 

In Denmark, you have to go far, far left all the the way to the fringes of the political aisle before anyone even starts thinking that controlled immigration is problematic. there isn't this noise of if its even slightly conservative its automatically bad. 

But i think that’s a newer thing. They had bad experiences with immigration. Places like Christiania got worse. They saw how horrible Sweden, Belgium etc. is doing with immigration so they became stricter. 

West European left is also delusional with immigration imo.

Edited Thursday at 10:45 AM by PurpleTree

[PurpleTree]

Gpt also said it’s a recent thing in Denmark 

Denmark has become stricter on immigration over the past two decades due to a combination of political, cultural, and social factors. Here’s a breakdown of why and how this shift happened:

 

 

 

 

🇩🇰 

Why Denmark Became Stricter on Immigration

 

 

 

1. 

Concerns about Integration

 

 

Many Danes believe that some immigrant groups—especially from non-Western countries—have not integrated well into Danish society.

Issues cited include:

Language barriers

Low employment rates

Social segregation (e.g., in neighborhoods or schools)

Clashes over values (e.g., gender equality, freedom of speech)

 

 

 

 

 

 

2. 

Rise in Right-Wing Populism

 

 

The Danish People’s Party (DF) gained popularity in the 2000s by campaigning on anti-immigration platforms.

Even mainstream parties (Social Democrats, Liberals) shifted their policies rightward to win over voters concerned about immigration.

 

 

 

 

 

3. 

Refugee Crises (2015 and Earlier)

 

 

The 2015 European migrant crisis intensified concerns, especially after large numbers of asylum seekers arrived from Syria, Afghanistan, and other countries.

Denmark imposed border controls, limited benefits, and passed laws to discourage asylum seekers from choosing Denmark.

 

 

 

 

 

4. 

Preservation of Welfare State

 

 

Denmark’s generous welfare system depends on high taxes and broad social trust.

Many Danes fear that high immigration—especially of low-skilled migrants—could strain public services and erode social cohesion.

 

 

 

 

 

5. 

National Identity and Cultural Concerns

 

 

Danish politics often frames immigration around preserving “Danish values”: secularism, gender equality, freedom of expression, etc.

The fear of parallel societies (separate communities with different norms) has driven laws targeting “ghetto areas” and cultural practices (e.g., face veils).

 

 

 

 

 

🏛️ 

Examples of Stricter Policies

 

 

Strict family reunification rules

Citizenship tests with cultural and historical questions

Mandatory language and integration programs

“Ghetto laws” targeting neighborhoods with high concentrations of non-Western immigrants

Asset seizure law (2016) for asylum seekers (confiscating valuables to help pay for their stay)

Reduced social benefits for new arrivals

 

 

 

 

 

🎯 Key Point:

 

 

Denmark hasn’t just shifted to the right on immigration—it has normalized tough immigration policy across most major parties, including the Social Democrats, who currently lead a government that is more restrictive than many conservative parties in other countries.

 

 

 

Would you like a comparison with Sweden, Germany, or another country’s immigration policies? Or want to know how these policies have affected immigrant communities in Denmark?

 

[Daniel Balan]

9 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

This issue is not about protests at all. It's about the left's refusal to do anything about illegal immigration.

Had the left been more conservative in regards to immigration and lgbt issues, the right wingers would have never won an election in the last 30 years! 

Edited Thursday at 10:55 AM by Daniel Balan

[Basman]

11 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

But i think that’s a newer thing. They had bad experiences with immigration. Places like Christiania got worse. They saw how horrible Sweden, Belgium etc. is doing with immigration so they became stricter. 

West European left is also delusional with immigration imo.

Christiania was a special case because the government/police didn't have any jurisdiction over it until recently. It was a Stage Green anarchist commune which eventually got overrun by gangs. Great case study in how a lack of conflict management and enforcement actually leads to more violence long-term.

But your, right. Europe has been very cuckish and its only recently that that started to shift. Germany in particular has this culture of guilt and purity. The left is in general delusional about immigration which is why I tend to vote center left to escape that optics centered nonsense. America is still way more polarized politically though. 

[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Basman said:

Christiania was a special case because the government/police didn't have any jurisdiction over it until recently. It was a Stage Green anarchist commune which eventually got overrun by gangs. Great case study in how a lack of conflict management and enforcement actually leads to more violence long-term. 

You know in my city we have a similar place as Christiania although much much much smaller. So there’s violence and drug dealing, often by immigrants and refugees. People intimidated, Women have been raped, people stabbed. But the left doesn’t talk about it and want to keep it a no go zone for the police because they don’t want to be deemed racist or whatever. That’s where a lot of my gripe with the far left stems from actually.

Edited Thursday at 11:12 AM by PurpleTree

[Basman]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

You know in my city we have a similar place as Christiania although much much much smaller. So there’s violence and drug dealing, often by immigrants and refugees. People intimidated, Women have been raped, people stabbed. But the left doesn’t talk about it...

Probably the most frustrating aspect of the left is their inability to acknowledge when things don't work according to their ideals. You can't even just talk about it without being labeled a racist or whatever. They just stick their heads in the sand and ignore it which leads people to loss trust in democratic institutions as they start feeling unsafe, powerless and unheard. Then they vote in Hitler who just needs to stoke the flames of their genuine grievances and there is your democratic decline.

Like just in this thread, leftists can't make any actual argument for why controlled immigration is actually bad. It's all because it's racist, Trump bad, capitalism bad, white guilt (implied), buzzword, buzzword. They just don't like the vibe of violence and take survival for granted and they are very puritanical about it. 

I'm politically left-wing on most aspects, but honestly fuck the left. The best thing about Trump getting elected is fatherless people melting down on camera. 

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Probably the most frustrating aspect of the left is their inability to acknowledge when things don't work according to their ideals. You can't even just talk about it without being labeled a racist or whatever. They just stick their heads in the sand and ignore it which leads people to loss trust in democratic institutions as they start feeling unsafe, powerless and unheard. Then they vote in Hitler who just needs to stoke the flames of their genuine grievances and there is your democratic decline.

Like just in this thread, leftists can't make any actual argument for why controlled immigration is actually bad. It's all because it's racist, capitalism bad, white guilt (implied), buzzword, buzzword. 

Me too and yea exactly. I have a lot of examples of this crap. And then a forum member from Russia tells me it’s just right wing propaganda and there aren’t problems with immigration in Europe. Typical woke idiocy.

 

Altough Trump and MAGA are utter nonsense imo.

Edited Thursday at 12:51 PM by PurpleTree

[BlueOak]

1 hour ago, Daniel Balan said:

Had the left been more conservative in regards to immigration and lgbt issues, the right wingers would have never won an election in the last 30 years! 

What are the dems supposed to do when every immigration bill they propose the right rejects?

If you mean the left of the dems, the actual left, then no, that's their place. Just like it's the right's place to push for the opposite, in a healthy functioning system, a centre ground would be established, and the two sides of the political spectrum would keep it in check.

The circle of America politics looks like this to me.

The left shouts a few things.
The center shrugs, ignores it, and tries to do politics.
The right ignores the center, and just does outrage drama politics.
The center tries to court the right, and sometimes gets things done, at the cost of becoming ever more right-wing themselves.
The right then have to keep going further right, to remain right of the Dems. Making more outrage, and more nonesense up to keep eyeballs on them.
Then the left shout a few things and the circle repeats.

This is why I say a pure duality political system has failed, not because it can't work, because it isn't working. America is actually a three-pole political system, trying to be a dual system.

Edited Thursday at 12:19 PM by BlueOak

[oldhandle]

1 hour ago, Basman said:

Probably the most frustrating aspect of the left is their inability to acknowledge when things don't work according to their ideals. You can't even just talk about it without being labeled a racist or whatever. They just stick their heads in the sand and ignore it which leads people to loss trust in democratic institutions as they start feeling unsafe, powerless and unheard. Then they vote in Hitler who just needs to stoke the flames of their genuine grievances and there is your democratic decline.

Like just in this thread, leftists can't make any actual argument for why controlled immigration is actually bad. It's all because it's racist, Trump bad, capitalism bad, white guilt (implied), buzzword, buzzword. They just don't like the vibe of violence and take survival for granted and they are very puritanical about it. 

I'm politically left-wing on most aspects, but honestly fuck the left. The best thing about Trump getting elected is fatherless people melting down on camera. 

You're kinda a massive piece of shit who isn't really gonna convince people that your way of thinking is correct if your favorite thing about Trump being elected is seeing the anger of people unfortunate enough to not have a father figure in their lives.

Edited Thursday at 12:46 PM by oldhandle

[Basman]

32 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

You're kinda a massive piece of shit who isn't really gonna convince people that your way of thinking is correct if your favorite thing about Trump being elected is seeing the anger of people unfortunate enough to not have a father figure in their lives.

Because filming yourself having a meltdown isn't completely ridiculous and attention seeking. 

[PurpleTree]

1 hour ago, BlueOak said:

This is why I say a pure duality political system has failed, not because it can't work, because it isn't working. America is actually a three-pole political system, trying to be a dual system.

That’s why i like non-duality.

[oldhandle]

34 minutes ago, Basman said:

Because filming yourself having a meltdown isn't completely ridiculous and attention seeking. 

Why'd you have to single out them not having fathers? Do you know that every person you've seen angry in a video has no father? Did your father teach you to mock those without fathers? U a dick lol

[Apparition of Jack]

Too many of you are far too steeped in selfishness. Including Leo.

Edited Thursday at 02:26 PM by Apparition of Jack

[Basman]

9 minutes ago, oldhandle said:

Why'd you have to single out them not having fathers? Do you know that every person you've seen angry in a video has no father? Did your father teach you to mock those without fathers? U a dick lol

It is this exact snowflakery why people make fun of the left. 

Get real.

[Apparition of Jack]

20 minutes ago, Basman said:

It is this exact snowflakery why people make fun of the left. 

Get real.

look at these leftists having a meltdown man lmfao 

[Basman]

You Americans look like this from the outside. Try not to drown...

[Apparition of Jack]

Dipshit Don pisses off big businesses with his deportations 🤣🤣:

Edited Thursday at 03:54 PM by Apparition of Jack

[hoodrow trillson]

Honestly, I really don’t give a fuck if there are people living in America illegally 

[Apparition of Jack]

What morons think is “Western civilisation” vs what it actually is: