Steroids without side effects are coming

[Jannes]

That so much fitness influencer dont even talk about that you gain extra fat cells when you bulk hard is tragic. So many guys spent a few years being a gym rat, do a bulking phase once where they gain extra fat cells and after that maintain more fat cells for the rest of their lives. 

[Jannes]

@vinc3nc Yeah I agree. 

I am speculating but I think he actually knows well that this extreme bodybuilding is stupid and frequently adresses this in his videos but then speaks for people in general though. He says he does it for the art like his triceps striations are beautiful and because he likes to do the shows and the gym. I think because of his intelligence the delusion is much stronger. 

This gym rat mentality can really take over your mind I noticed. I needed a long time break and other things which fueled my self worth to let it go and realize how shallow it is. But him being probably deeper in this shit and running a company and youtube channel about it makes it so much harder to let it go. 

[mysticalninja]

Dr. Mike is a smart guy and I like a lot of his content, but he overestimates and is super optimistic about the power/future of pharmaceuticals. 

He doesnt seem to evenly balance the idea that myostation/activin A limit muscle growth for a reason.  Its not like the human body evolved to have these just so you cant look jacked on social media.  If the effects of these medications are so strong -there will be strong side effects.   Also, these new drugs are also monoclonal antibodies so they will likely be injections  and very expensive - insurance companies arn't going to pay for you to get muscular for fun.  Then do you have to take this expensive Biologics / injection for life just to maintain gains, is getting a larger/ more muscular heart really going to be good for your health.

He also seems to think a couple further generations of medications seem to eliminate side effects, but thats not how it has historically worked.   We are on generation three of antihistamine(allergy) medications and people still say benedryl(diphenhydramine) works best - that was FDA approved in 1946.  This trend is true for most classes of medications, diabetes/cholesterol/high BP/psychiatric conditions are all still difficult to treat effectively with just medications.  We still treat pain with opiods - the same as over 1000 years ago, a better solution still hasnt been found for many people.

Thats my rant I got a bit annoyed by his optimism and I feel like he is giving people the wrong idea - maybe there will be some explosion in advancements due AI or something, but I think he is dreaming a bit about the timeline.

[Carl-Richard]

@mysticalninja

Again, Ray Kurzweil of pharmacology.

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[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

No elaboration needed:

 

Horrifying.

He is a charmer though.

Edited June 7 by Leo Gura

[Carl-Richard]

2 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Horrifying.

His radical transparency but also explicit transgressiveness (both which maybe not so coincidentally draw a lot of attention to himself) reminds me weirdly of Mr. Girl. That's what being insightful and self-aware and cognitively developed but also high on your own farts gets you.

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

On 5. 6. 2025 at 8:51 AM, RendHeaven said:

But I quickly realized that this is still the same trap, just in the other direction. In America I wanted 170lbs, in Japan I wanted 155lbs, but in both cases I'm just trying to win validation/affection/admiration/social goodie points, etc.

If you are attaching your value to what women want, or to what you think women want, then that is one of the surefire ways towards misery, that path is nice and straightforward

Thing is that, especially as a man, there seems to be this urge somewhere to use and exercise your physicality, make use of your strength towards a certain goal, it's there somewhere, deeply ingrained in us. But our society is transcending all physicality. And will continue to be on that path untill the ultimate conclusion. Gym simply provides one of many outlets for this desire

[RendHeaven]

17 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

But our society is transcending all physicality

Correct

[Basman]

On 06/06/2025 at 7:17 AM, RendHeaven said:

The true universals that women respond to:

• leadership (directional authority)
• outcome independence (not giving a FUCKKK)
• implicit uninhibited desire transfer
• preselection

What's preselection?

[Carl-Richard]

9 hours ago, Basman said:

What's preselection?

U talk to woman, woman want to talk to u (other women). I experienced this super strongly once. I was talking to this hyper-intuitive girl for 2 hours in the university cafeteria, and then some other girl my roommate had talked to wanted to hit me up (my roommate said she watched me talk in the cafeteria about hyper-intuitive shit, and she was apparently also hyper-intuitive and vibed from afar).

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[Basman]

30 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

U talk to woman, woman want to talk to u (other women). I experienced this super strongly once. I was talking to this hyper-intuitive girl for 2 hours in the university cafeteria, and then some other girl my roommate had talked to wanted to hit me up (my roommate said she watched me talk in the cafeteria about hyper-intuitive shit, and she was apparently also hyper-intuitive and vibed from afar).

Sounds like your describing social proof but your example sounds more like she just thought you where an interesting conversationalist. I get what you mean though.

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[Carl-Richard]

13 minutes ago, Basman said:

Sounds like your describing social proof but your example sounds more like she just thought you where an interesting conversationalist.

Had I been talking hyper-intuitive shit to myself or my roommate or on this forum and she saw that, I would probably not have her hit me up (or who knows). I think it mattered a lot that I talked to the girl specifically (that's also what I thought immediately when it happened). And I know she wasn't just after talking hyper-intuitive shit  (from my roommate 😉😆).

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[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Basman said:

Sounds like your describing social proof

Same thing.