Why People Leave The Left

[Nemra]

22 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

Next you should see Paris, Rome, Barcelona.

Maybe.

[PurpleTree]

6 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Maybe.

😡

[Xonas Pitfall]

6 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

😡

RedTree!

[PurpleTree]

14 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

RedTree!

I‘m an angry plant. Expansiony/Colonialistic and genocidal in nature

[Xonas Pitfall]

Power Plant... 😡

[PurpleTree]

14 minutes ago, Xonas Pitfall said:

Power Plant... 😡

It would be funny if non-dualists take over the world.

Then instead of calling someone a chauvinist pig

They will call someone a dualist swine.

[Nemra]

1 hour ago, PurpleTree said:

😡

Ok ok

[Jacob Morres]

@SwiftQuill

You never responded to my comment from before, that showed 25% of top companies discriminate against black people with statistical significance 

Whats your thoughts on that, and how much action should be taken on that, if any? 

I noticed you quite passionate about being anti-dei, because of discrimination. I wonder if it stops there however, when it's non white people affected? 

 

My 2nd question is, if your pursuit to destroy wokeness is wise, considering battling racism is not on the right wings agenda? 

If there is no left wing, and right wings purpose is to destroy the left... coupled with the fact of little to no concern for racism on the right -> do you think racism gets better or worse? 

Edited June 5 by Jacob Morres

[Nivsch]

The mind tries all the time to meet us with our unsolved issues, this is why any obssesive attachment to ideals (the issue doesnt matter) creates a backlash in our brain which knows we are compensating and running from something, what will cause him to bring us negative emotions that will be disguised in a judgmental behaviour towards others. Sooner or later our subconscious will notice the suffering this creates and will sense that a more flexible way of dealing with reality is needed.

Edited June 5 by Nivsch

[SwiftQuill]

17 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

@SwiftQuill

You never responded to my comment from before, that showed 25% of top companies discriminate against black people with statistical significance 

Whats your thoughts on that, and how much action should be taken on that, if any? 

I noticed you quite passionate about being anti-dei, because of discrimination. I wonder if it stops there however, when it's non white people affected? 

 

My 2nd question is, if your pursuit to destroy wokeness is wise, considering battling racism is not on the right wings agenda? 

If there is no left wing, and right wings purpose is to destroy the left... coupled with the fact of little to no concern for racism on the right -> do you think racism gets better or worse? 

I'm not going to debate the stupidity and bias those woke studies contain. It's not worth wasting time with woke pseudoscience. The same people who produce studies about the evil and privileged white males are the same ones who say trans women don't have an advantage in women's sports.

And let's conveniently ignore the anti male bias that exists in various industries like education, HR, the fashion industry. Let's ignore that certain industries and certain college degrees have more female applicants than males.

80% of people in HR are female: "its just women like hr more than men"

90% of people in IT are male: "OMFG IT'S THE PATRIARCHY"

It reminds me of studies in the past on middle school and high school education.

80% of top students are male: "OMG PATRIARCHY"

Today, female students outperform males.

80% of top students are female: "This proves my high IQ PhD paper in feminist Wokeology that women are more disciplined than men, more inquisitive than men, more conscientious.. etc women are better than men"

Again and again and again I've seen and read these bullshit studies. Regardless of what the data is, it's always massaged to fit the woke scholars agendas.

Same with the bullshit wage gap studies that say "women on average earn 20% less than men". You might as well say "on average a human being has 1 testicle and 1 boob".

This is why people accuse me of being an anti intellectual. Because I'm a critical thinker and I don't dogmatically accept the headlines of those bullshit studies. I've done research myself and I've found when we take more factors into account, the gap isn't nearly as big as Harvard's Wokeology department says it is.

Now, am I saying society is 100% fair? No of course not. I'm sure the wage gap exists. I'm sure there is discrimination against ethnic minorities. But I've yet to see good quality research on that topic.

It's all full of bullshit woke double standards. People don't understand maybe females just don't enjoy the field of IT as much as males do. Because there are natural assume tries in life. You can't expect a perfect 50/50 make to female ratio. Or straight to gay ratio. Or white to black ratio.

People say "if our country has 90% whites and 10% blacks, that's the precise ratio we expect in any company". No, that's full of woke assumptions.

First off there simply aren't enough applicants for each job ad out there. Certain industries don't have as many females or blacks. If the job ad is there but the company receives 99% of CV's from white males, there's that.

"But that's because patriarchy so we need to push our ideology even further".

What Wokies want is a really freaky apartheid type scenario. They want job ads that select for race, gender, and sexuality. They want college vacancies selected for race, gender, and sexuality. They want all of that from work, job positions, all the way down to preschool divisions. 

The reason for this is because they reject natural assume tries exist.

My country has a lot of indians for instance. But most of them start their own business (usually grocery shop). Most of them don't even send cvs to any company out there.

But you PhD in bullshit wokeness college professor, the one who wrote the book "I hate white males" the one the bald man here loves because she gives lectures in "white fragility" she will pull up 4000 studies telling me that those poor indians are oppressed.

Wokies don't understand that society does have a few asymmetries here and there. I think what's important is to give people opportunities. And if they don't take those opportunity it's on them.

Also let's ignore that when I go to many stores with chill jobs like cashier at perfume store or clothes store or Lego store, 90% of the time it's a young woman working there. Yes I know it's controversial to say but fuck it. Women do have clearly an advantage for certain job positions.

But why aren't you freaking out about men taking high risk jobs? Why aren't Wokies freaking out most suicides are committed by men? Because any problem in a white man's life is assumed to be his fault and 0 serious attention is taken to it.

Why is it 90% of people who work in coal mines, garbage trucks, sewers, those shit jobs, why aren't there studies exploring why men are pushed to such harsh and degrading positions?

For certain topics in life, strangely enough there's 0 data, 0 studies.

But what there is is infinite mental gymnastics by people who abuse statistics to push their religion.

I know statistics. I'm highly educated on research, data, and statistics. And from your favorite Wokeology department I see a shit ton of fallacies. The data is carefully selected, committed and analyzed to serve their agenda.

People tell me I'm an ant intellectual because I reject such studies. And then they reverse the burden of proof, and as ME to give them studies.

You seriously think I'm going to pour hours into a rigorous research paper only for idiots online to not even read it?

Not to mention the constant genetic fallacies that because I'm a data scientist and not a feminist scholar or critical race theory scholar, because my analysis is less valid.

I used to be more "open minded" in those sense I would perform mental gymnastics to try see it from the other person's point of view. All the while ignoring the blatant bias in the methodology and conclusion sections of such woke studies.

I'm not interested in debating the topic of DEI any further. It's a waste of time.

Edited June 5 by SwiftQuill

[SwiftQuill]

My biggest enemies in life are woke psychologists, woke sociologists, critical race theorists, woke anthropologists, and woke feminist scholars. These far left activists have invaded universities in the 70's and since then they've been pushing their Marxist religion and poisoning science and academic institutions. They are the most hypocritical, delusional, radical people out there. And their pseudoscience has been so normalized that normal people think there's no difference in rigor between a paper in economics and a paper in feminist religion.

I actually make an effort to no longer engage with their intellectual rot.

These are Marxist radicals who do nothing all day but read other papers written by other Marxist radicals. They don't understand how normal life works.

They don't understand how you can send 1000 cvs and still receive 0 responses.

They don't understand the various asymmetries that exist not only in the job market but in society in general. To them, any assymetry is causing by the white patriarchy.

They have a delusional concept of what it means to be white, male, and straight.

I've been told many times that since I no longer debate this topic, it's because "I'm afraid of facing the truth". Because after a horse has been beaten to death I no longer feel the need to continue.

Those hyper intellectuals at Harvard, they wouldn't last a month living as the average white male. They would have an existential crisis if they were ever unemployed or broke.

And honestly I wish if God existed, God would put those bastards in these harsh uncomfortable positions. I wish those woke retards would reincarnate in a next life, as a minimum wage McDonald's worker. And gaslit by woke scholars about their supposed "cis white male privilege".

Maybe then they would understand why so many people like myself hate wokeness and most of the modern left. They would become so blackpilled they would realize the harshness of life and see the amount of religious bullshit those so called "scientific studies" contain.

Nothing angers me more than hypocritical self righteousness. I'd rather have a con artist steal me 1000€ than go to a "white fragility" lecture. It would be less painful because at least the con artist has 0 morals, and so there's no hypocrisy. And also the con artist doesn't gaslight me. He just cheats to get my money.

So for anyone reading this thread I suggest you don't bother asking me questions about DEI and scientific wokeness because it's a topic people bring up a lot and I am frankly tired of it. I'm not interested in debates on this topic. Call me right wing, straw man me, tell me I'm privileged, I don't care. I won't entertain this topic any further.

[Jacob Morres]

 

@SwiftQuill

Ignoring data is a huge mistake. They're not perfect, but they include a lot of valuable info 

At the end of the day, you need data for your "white males are the real ones oppressed". Is your data for this claim even higher quality than what comes from scientific studies? 

Id recommend that you steelman science and have a high quality opinion of it instead of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Your opinion leans way more emotional than truth and quality based 

Edited June 5 by Jacob Morres

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, SwiftQuill said:

than go to a "white fragility" lecture.

I learned great insights from a white fragility lecture.

[SwiftQuill]

@Jacob Morres my opinion leans on empirical observation which is infinitely better than abstract reading of woke papers. I'm not debating this topic any further.

[SwiftQuill]

@Leo Gura yes because obviously only white people are racist. Asians? Nah. Black people in Africa? Nah. Obviously it's only those with a light skin tone who inherited the racism genes.

[SwiftQuill]

Maybe I should prepare a woke fragility lecture to educate the public to walk on eggshells and avoid offending the Wokies.

[Leo Gura]

2 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

@Leo Gura yes because obviously only white people are racist. Asians? Nah. Black people in Africa? Nah. Obviously it's only those with a light skin tone who inherited the racism genes.

Why you gotta take it to such extremes?

Insights about racism can apply to anyone or any race.

It isn't about blaming whites.

[SwiftQuill]

@Leo Gura then WHY THE FUCK IS IT WHITE FRAGILITY 

[Nemra]

7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I learned great insights from a white fragility lecture.

By Robin DiAngelo?

[Leo Gura]

3 minutes ago, SwiftQuill said:

Maybe I should prepare a woke fragility lecture to educate the public to walk on eggshells and avoid offending the Wokies.

You are really discounting the huge negative impact of racism, as if racism hasn't been a huge problem since like forever, and especially for blacks.

You are too focused on defending you.

Edited June 5 by Leo Gura