Why People Leave The Left

[Alexop]

34 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What about the recent rise of crime? It’s only in certain areas?

Certain areas, not even close to the levels of crime US experiences. But it makes the news all the time because people are not used to such stuff here. A school shooting here is a catastrophe, in the US it is just side news.

[Alexop]

@Nemra if you are not masculine, you'll fit like a glove here.

Where do you live and how do you experience leftists in your country?

[Nemra]

20 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Where do you live and how do you experience leftists in your country?

Leftists in my country are a minority that you would have to spend time to find them. There are no actual leftists in power.

They're all nationalists and Christians with their stupid identity politics, whether national, ethnic, or religious.

I live in Armenia.

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[PurpleTree]

9 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Leftists in my country are a minority that you would have to spend time to find them. There are no actual leftists in power.

They're all nationalists and Christians with their stupid identity politics, whether national, ethnic, or religious.

I live in Armenia.

I thought Pashinian or how ever you spell his name. Seemed like a decent guy. No?

[Nemra]

2 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

I thought Pashinian or how ever you spell his name. Seemed like a decent guy. No?

No.

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[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Nemra said:

No.

Have you seen the Arte documentary about the party scene and youth in Georgia?

Arte is an artsy French/German co channel

[Alexop]

19 minutes ago, Nemra said:

Leftists in my country are a minority that you would have to spend time to find them. There are no actual leftists in power.

They're all nationalists and Christians with their stupid identity politics, whether national, ethnic, or religious.

I live in Armenia.

yup, more or less like Romania.

[Nemra]

@PurpleTree, sorry, but I cannot watch the video. It's unavailable to me. I don't have a VPN service right now.

But I have watched their content.

[PurpleTree]

9 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@PurpleTree, sorry, but I cannot watch the video. It's unavailable to me. I don't have a VPN service right now.

But I have watched their content.

The situation seem to be quite similar to Armenia although maybe the left is stronger in Georgia.

[Nemra]

5 minutes ago, Alexop said:

yup, more or less like Romania.

I would say worse.

There have been wars and conflicts happening.

Most people are living traditionalist lives. Brainwashed to the core.

[Alexop]

Just now, Nemra said:

I would say worse.

There have been wars and conflicts happening.

Most people are living traditionalist lives. Brainwashed to the core.

Yes! I saw some vlogs from there. It felt like Romania 25 years ago.

[PurpleTree]

1 minute ago, Alexop said:

Yes! I saw some vlogs from there. It felt like Romania 25 years ago.

What is the future of Romania in your opinion?

[Joshe]

5 hours ago, SwiftQuill said:

And no, Bernie Sanders isn't woke. When people like myself use woke as a pejorative, they don't mean people like Bernie Sanders. As someone who engages in antiwoke circles, trust me no one considers people like Sanders to be woke.

I've seen many videos of him speaking about politics and he comes across as a healthy, intelligent progressive. And when he says he's "socialist" he doesn't mean old school socialism. He talks about a social safety net, like in Scandinavian countries type of "socialism".

👆

[Nemra]

26 minutes ago, Alexop said:

Yes! I saw some vlogs from there. It felt like Romania 25 years ago.

Eh, it is what it is. It is depressing though.

I visited Artsakh for the first time, and in the following years, Azerbaijan took it by force. Literal bloodbath.

They also tried to attack Armenia. I thought they would succeed. I heard a loud sound near my town, although I don't know whether that was a bomb or not.

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[Alexop]

25 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

What is the future of Romania in your opinion?

We got a progressive president now, and what can I say... It slowly shifts from Blue to Orange with some Green here and there in the big cities. Even the most progressive politicians are some sort of neoliberals who think austerity and cutting gov. costs will fix problems. I mean it can help, but we have to increase the tax to GDP ratio and promote innovation rather the just playing this "cheap labour and resources for foreign companies" card. But economically, the whole Europe is a bit fucked, because we are so fragmented. hard to compete with China and US which are huge capitalist powerhouses.

Personally, I left because my profession is not well paid, because of air pollution, bad infrastructure, no bicycle lanes, and for my personal development. Moving to Sweden changed my life, I understand the world much better now. I really recommend moving to a country radically different than yours, learn the language and blend in with the locals.

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[PurpleTree]

5 minutes ago, Alexop said:

We got a progressive president now, and what can I say... It slowly shifts from Blue to Orange with some Green here and there in the big cities. Even the most progressive politicians are some sort of neolibarals who think austerity and cutting gov. costs will fix problems. I mean it can help, but we have to increase the tax to GDP ratio and promote innovation rather the just playing this "cheap labour and resources for foreign companies" card. But economically, the whole Europe is a bit fucked, because we are so fragmented. hard to compete with China and US which are huge capitalist powerhouses.

Personally, I left because my profession is not well paid, because of air pollution, bad infrastructure, no bicycle lanes, and for my personal development. Moving to Sweden changed my life, I understand the world much better now. I really recommend moving to a country radically different than yours, learn the language and blend in with the locals.

Yea i think i might visit soon-ish. Maybe next year. My mother was there and liked the landscape a lot. And it’s quite cheap from a more expensive European country.

[Nemra]

7 minutes ago, Alexop said:

I really recommend moving to a country radically different than yours, learn the language and blend in with the local.

I visited Copenhagen and Amsterdam a few months ago. I was impressed and in awe.

[Alexop]

4 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I visited Copenhagen and Amsterdam a few months ago. I was impressed and in awe.

How hard would be to obtain a residence permit in such country for you?

[Nemra]

11 minutes ago, Alexop said:

How hard would be to obtain a residence permit in such country for you?

I don't know. Maybe I could move there by applying for a job.

The important thing is that I got my first Schengen visa.

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[PurpleTree]

25 minutes ago, Nemra said:

I visited Copenhagen and Amsterdam a few months ago. I was impressed and in awe.

Next you should see Paris, Rome, Barcelona.