The importance of Faith [Wokies need not enter]

[SwiftQuill]

5 minutes ago, Basman said:

Maybe your conflating faith with confidence a bit (which I define as surviving failure). You don't need to have confidence to have faith, but I digress.

In my personal experience, having a very clear picture of what you want and moving towards your goals is essentially what life is all about. Once you have clear and strong goals, it should be simple.

It's important to have faith in yourself if nothing else, I'd say. Perhaps just in your ability to handle what life throws at you. If you fall down you just get up.

I'm merely reiterating JP's argument. It's been over a year so I don't recall his exact words. But according to his explanation, I would say faith is the best word. It's better, more accurate than confidence or hope.

But it's fine if you want to use other words. I get the religious connotation can be offputting. I'm ok with using faith though.

[Rafael Thundercat]

Antiwokegiraffe? Will this place become a sort of X plataform?

[SwiftQuill]

@Rafael Thundercat it's just a blog. I post my journal there, life goals, vents and reflections, art. Just a personal blog.

[gettoefl]

Faith is the belief that someone or something inexplicable wants me to succeed. That there is something beyond reason and intellect. Something beyond what I (or anyone) can figure out with raw mind. 

Faithlessness can take you to the pinnacle of human achievement. 

Faith posits there is something more. 

Try both for a while perhaps since each scorns the idea of the other.

The thing about faith is you won't see any demonstrable results. 

And I would say that faith has to be long-term and probably life-long if it stands a chance.

[Aaron p]

On 19/05/2025 at 0:29 AM, SwiftQuill said:

How am I supposed to start a revolutionary business idea if by its nature, it's revolutionary, it's too new, there isn't data on it. I absolutely don't know if it will work.

Do market research bro, even if it is a completely new area of business with no competitors to analyze... You can analyse similar business areas or perhaps you could creatively use peripheral and contextual data to come to some loose conclusions before you make the business. Astrophysicists use these methods to identify dark matter and dark energy even though they themselves are completely undetectable in and of themselves. Astrophysicists use galactic rotation curves, gravitational lensing, cosmic microwave background to detect the inference of the location of dark energy.

In spirituality there's a difference between placing faith in the existence of god because a preacher made you feel fuzzy and warm inside and told you to believe in Jesus...and placing faith in the existence of god because you've actually did a ton of research and contemplation which infers even a marginal likelihood of the existence of some kind of higher power.

As far as I can currently calculate, faith can [and I think should] be based something that is solid (even if it's just looking at the universe and seeing order and using logic to intuitively determine that a reality that is this intelligent should probably have a source that is also intelligent and likely more intelligent than itself). The strongest faith usually has something to ground it.

Blind faith is a recipe For disaster.

Edited May 29 by Aaron p

[SOUL]

The right is a cult and one of it's many symptoms is woke derangement syndrome but no matter how much faith one has will it bring 'back' a past idealized society that never existed to begin with.

Free people have issue with the religious trying to impose their beliefs and 'traditions' onto others, not the presence of faith in one's life but the broke mindset might not quite understand this.

Oh and I go wherever I want with muddy shoes up on your couch living rent free in your head whispering from the depths of your subconscious mind that your imagined utopian dream is an illusion.

Edited May 31 by SOUL

[SwiftQuill]

14 hours ago, SOUL said:

The right is a cult and one of it's many symptoms is woke derangement syndrome but no matter how much faith one has will it bring 'back' a past idealized society that never existed to begin with.

Free people have issue with the religious trying to impose their beliefs and 'traditions' onto others, not the presence of faith in one's life but the broke mindset might not quite understand this.

Oh and I go wherever I want with muddy shoes up on your couch living rent free in your head whispering from the depths of your subconscious mind that your imagined utopian dream is an illusion.

Very low IQ response.

[Joshe]

I feel like, with a proper attitude, a sufficient sense of self-efficacy, psychological fortitude and resiliency, faith is not needed. Or maybe all of those things combine into a notion that is close, or even identical to what you describe as faith. 

But this is faith in yourself, not spiritual faith. From your description, and what I know about JP, I think what’s happening is he is conflating the two.

Whatever I set my mind to, I trust that I will be able to manage it. For whatever reason, I have high self efficacy, which makes it so that I never even look to reality for anything. I never say to myself, Boy I hope this pays off in the future. Because I’ve already assessed that it will or won’t and have made my decision to go after it.

I feel like for people who are prone to rumination, indecision, low self-efficacy, or worrying if they’ve made the right choice, then faith seems to be a viable substitute for managing the psychological friction created by those improper uses of mind. 

I don’t expect reality to take care of me. The only way to live is to assume that it will but not expect it to. We have to assume everything will be ok because to live any other way would be unhealthy and inefficient. JP turns this into a spiritual thing.

So I would say we can simplify by replacing “faith” with “assume”. 

This comes quite easy for most anyway. It’s when the mind over-analyzes without proper context or hyper-fixates on the negative that we get stifled in such a way that JP’s maladaptive notion might be valuable, so it seems to me.

Actually, thinking about it more, it seems that faith is just being used as an affirmation that everything will be okay or favorable. But again, that’s maladaptive because it’s hoping reality will be kind and it sets you up to be the victim in a harsh world. 

 

Edited June 2 by Joshe

[SOUL]

On 5/31/2025 at 0:23 PM, SwiftQuill said:

Very low IQ response.

So mad and triggered...haha

Edited June 2 by SOUL

[SwiftQuill]

32 minutes ago, SOUL said:

So mad and triggered...haha

You posted in this thread with 0 interested in intelligent discussion or contributing anything meaningful.

1. I'm not right wing

I never said I was right wing. Not here, nor in any other thread. Because I don't identify as right wing.

2. You didn't read the original post

The original post says nothing about religion or Christianity or tradition or anything like that. I specifically said that the word faith in this context is a psychological condition. And I said words like hope and confidence can be synonyms. I didn't advocate for the religious type of faith. At no point did I advocate for any religious ideology.

3. Idealized past utopia?

I never said anything about an idealized past or an utopian image of society. I don't hold such a view. My guess is you projected unto me a weird regressive conservative idea of "the good ol days".

This reddit type of interaction of "I'm going to own that antiwoke idiot!" doesn't interest me. I can engage in a good faith discussion with anyone but I don't waste my time with low IQ comments. And if by not wasting my time with such responses you think I'm "triggered" then you're free to think like that, if it lets you sleep well at night.

[UpperMaster]

This is an amazing post. this resonated with me for sure. 
 

I need to have faith in my development. That is the only thing that keeps you going in the end. I agree, in a way, that is what keeps me going and helps me get back up.

Your right faith is the right word.

It’s not just hope. It’s faith in yourself.