5 Meo as my first psychedelic?

[freddyteisen]

Wow. I found out it’s possible to get access to pretty much any psychedelic here in Denmark.

I went into a Danish Facebook group, asked if anyone had experienced 5 Meo and I got connected with a super nice, down to earth Dane who has tried almost every psychedelic, who’s also a trained fascillitator.

I’ve never tried psychedelics. But I thought going for the God Molecule, the mother of ‘em all, 5-MeO-DMT, is a good start. Completely blast out and dissolve my ego.

What do you guys think as that being the first experience? My plan is to do it in a month when I finish my exams.

What are you guys’ experience with first time psychedelics? And do you recommend 5 Meo being the first?

Edited Friday at 04:40 PM by freddyteisen

[Sugarcoat]

My first psychedelic was first dmt, then 5 Meo dmt, completely alone in my room lol

I was too scared to try big doses, so I went very small. I did feel a profound erasing of the boundary between self and other on 5 Meo, it was like melting into the environment, not fully though, still a little ego left because the dose was small I guess. It was a tad bit uncomfortable imo. Some say on smaller doses there is ego left that can resist so it can be uncomfortable, but on larger doses ego is completely gone so no resistance so it actually feels better. But still I didn’t have the guts to try a large dose. People are bold lol. I realized taking psychedelics is pretty hardcore, you could risk a horrible trip. 
 

I don’t have much experience, I did it a couple of times and I failed a lot at the administration because my technique wasn’t the best. But it was a little start.

My respond won’t probably help you. But I’d say if you’re gonna do it alone start small. 

Edited Friday at 06:02 PM by Sugarcoat

[Schizophonia]

10 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

People are bold lol. I realized taking psychedelics is pretty hardcore, you

5 MeO is very different from any other psychedelics.

It's a million times scarier than an LSD trip.

 

[Schizophonia]

There's no better first choice.

But it's the hardest choice.

You shouldn't think, "Oh, this will dissolve my ego and I'll see God, it's cool." It's more like being ready to shoot yourself in the head or go on the scariest ride in the world.

Edited Friday at 06:15 PM by Schizophonia

[Sugarcoat]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

5 MeO is very different from any other psychedelics.

It's a million times scarier than an LSD trip.

 

I can imagine. That’s why I wanna try the other stuff too.

5 Meo directly attacks and dissolves the self border, that’s what I noticed. It’s crazy how it does that

It’s weird because it was like when I did it, I wanted my self back. As if I prefer having a self hahahh

[shree]

You can use it as your first psychedelic-nothing matches the intensity and radicality of 5-MeO. You won’t be prepared anyway.

It’s good you’re planning to do it with a facilitator, since you don’t know how your body will react.
I’ve had wild experiences with it- some could’ve gone very badly.

Even with a trained guide, educate yourself on dosage, ROA, and the nature of the experience.
Also, work on your traumas beforehand - this compound can unleash all your buried pain at once, and that’s not pleasant.

That being said:

Put all expectations aside.
Learn to relax.
Breathe.
Open your body.
And most importantly -trust.

[shree]

2 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

You shouldn't think, "Oh, this will dissolve my ego and I'll see God, it's cool." It's more like being ready to shoot yourself in the head or go on the scariest ride in the world.

Exactly. It’s pretty much like getting hit in the head with a sledgehammer while riding the wildest roller coaster in the universe.

[Schizophonia]

@shree

It's even funny how dumb I was.
I snorted like 40mg telling myself "I'm going to see God or something," as if it was no big deal only to find myself after 5 minutes wanting to call an ambulance. 😂

What ROA do you use ? I think I might prefer vaping it because the impact is quicker; it seems easier like that.

Edited Friday at 06:33 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I can imagine. That’s why I wanna try the other stuff too.

I would recommand 4 HO MET for the first time, i love it.

But it seems that you will have to stop your treatment several weeks before.

11 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

5 Meo directly attacks and dissolves the self border, that’s what I noticed. It’s crazy how it does that

It’s weird because it was like when I did it, I wanted my self back. As if I prefer having a self hahahh

It's scary yea.

I should try again one of these days.

[Sugarcoat]

10 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@shree

What ROA do you use ? I think I might prefer vaping it because the impact is quicker; it seems easier like that.

I tried up the ass but it didn’t work🤣

Edited Friday at 06:37 PM by Sugarcoat

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

I would recommand 4 HO MET for the first time, i love it.

But it seems that you will have to stop your treatment several weeks before.

It's scary yea.

I should try again one of these days.

I wanna try different things

This summer when I meet doctor I’ll tell them meds aren’t helping and might ask to stop taking them

Cool if you try

[Sugarcoat]

10 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

@shree

It's even funny how dumb I was.
I snorted like 40mg telling myself "I'm going to see God or something," as if it was no big deal only to find myself after 5 minutes wanting to call an ambulance. 😂

 

Why some say higher dose is better because there’s no ego left to resist. I trusted my gut and didn’t try the higher dose still 

[shree]

5 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I tried up the ass but it didn’t work🤣

Same here. I guess our asses just aren’t made for breakthroughs!

[shree]

18 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

What ROA do you use ? I think I might prefer vaping it because the impact is quicker; it seems easier like that.

I vape it on E-mesh. It's super fast and intense. I’d rather plug it, if only it actually worked on me.

[Schizophonia]

18 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I tried up the ass but it didn’t work🤣

Ditto lol.

Then it may be my fault, I may have been too cowardly not to want to push; I also had no lubricant, just olive oil.

17 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I wanna try different things

This summer when I meet doctor I’ll tell them meds aren’t helping and might ask to stop taking them

Then you can just stop on your own i think.
There shouldn't be any withdrawal problems with your dosages.

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Cool if you try

Photos of Valentin naked and tripping incoming 👺

Jk

15 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

Why some say higher dose is better because there’s no ego left to resist. I trusted my gut and didn’t try the higher dose still 

In the idea that it is so strong that the ego and therefore the stress of losing the ego is quickly broken.

That's why I told Shree that maybe I'd prefer vaping, because extreme fear lasts a few seconds, while longer ROAs last several minutes.
It might also be that our psyche is particularly sensitive to the loss of ego.

Edited Friday at 06:54 PM by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

5 minutes ago, shree said:

I vape it on E-mesh. It's super fast and intense. I’d rather plug it, if only it actually worked on me.

Thanks.

[Davino]

@freddyteisen I recommend 5meos to start with. Imo, LSD and mushrooms are much more challenging to beginners and for me the time factor 16h LSD and 6h Mushrooms is huge, it feels like too long.

So I absolutely recommend you to start with 5meo, is all you need. But it's not a good idea to "Completely blast out and dissolve my ego"  I wouldn't recommend it as a first experience. You've never tripped at all, it's the first time with that chemical, you have no clue how your body will react, it's just not the safest approach. Buy yourself 5meo, and do microdosing to meditate or do yoga, increase the doses with time and when you feel the calling to "blast out" call that facilitator and do it.

That's my solid advice. To sum up: 5meo to begin YES! First experience full Breakthrough NO!

[Davino]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

Then it may be my fault, I may have been too cowardly not to want to push; I also had no lubricant, just olive oil.

Profesional oil-based lubricants help a lot. With a nice lubricant you won't even feel it that much.

Water based lubricants make it rough. And saliva sometimes does work and others it's still unpleasent, so I've sticked to more reliable lubricants.

[freddyteisen]

@Davino Thanks - makes lotta sense. I like the idea of microdosing until the body is ready for the full blast.

@Davino I’m curious, if you could recommend 1 psychedelic and 1 psychedelic only to ever use, would that be 5 MeO?

Thanks everyone for the answers.

Edited Friday at 10:01 PM by freddyteisen

[Yimpa]

Edited Saturday at 04:13 AM by Yimpa