New Video: 8 Unique & Original Proofs Of God

[Leo Gura]

No one here is insane.

Insanity is no joke.

Edited May 11 by Leo Gura

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura Not sure if that’s a reply to me.

[Someone here]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

No one here is insane.

Insanity is no joke.

Lol imagine if we actually started an argument about who's more insane 😂? 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

2 hours ago, Someone here said:

Lol imagine if we actually started an argument about who's more insane 😂? 

Perhaps you would like some Rabies to taste insanity? Dissolve all those coherent definitions into a sludge of useless grey matter

[Someone here]

4 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Perhaps you would like some Rabies to taste insanity? Dissolve all those coherent definitions into a sludge of useless grey matter

So you are a jew ? Damn I knew it .

No i meant it would be a real sign of our insanity if we debated who's more nuts . With all honesty I'm not convinced that anyone else can "out-insane" me ?😂

Try me !.

[Yimpa]

What is 8 sideways?

[Mu_]

@Leo Gura

Bery interesting, a lot of these came to me as well in similar ways but I landed on a couple of distinct differences. 
 

Infinity id argue is one “god idea”, when in actuality the amount of possible experiences possible in which can be experienced is uncountable and is how ever many there is, which isn’t necessarily infinity. 
 

I’d also argue control is another “god idea or experience”, with neither control or no control being a real anything, it’s simply god happening as it always has and remains to be. It has no preplaned plans to plan any more than it doesn’t. 
 

and I’d say distinction is a moment of god experience believing something called there is or isn’t distinction. 
 

But all in all really great stuff, I’d be interested in some counter discussion on such matters because there’s very few others to go into his kinda stuff with lol, if at all hahaha. 

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ So… what is infinity? 

[Mu_]

2 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Mu_ So… what is infinity? 

I know here on this forum  it’s used to mean the same thing as god or nothingness for the most part, so I’m fine with leaving it at that. 
 

but when we are going to have a balls deep honest conversation and try and clearly get to what it is, I can’t in good faith say it has anything to do with numerical or conceptual ideas of infinity in the scientific sense.  It “may” be and that would mean there are an actual never ending amount of different possibilities it can experience, but this will forever have to be up to casual musings and speculation which seem to be one of the many possibilities. 
 

another way to put my idea is there is no way to get outside of one’s SELF to observe this and count how many possibilities of experience are possible. I csn acknowledge there are a lot but just how many, well as many as there are possible and that is non-countable and unknown or perhaps only 1 trilllion. 
 

and here’s where it gets even more mind fucky and perhaps more irrelevant so don’t take it to serious, even if you think and experience being able to count how many there are that to is just a now moment in god thinking it’s counting experiences of many types, when in reality there are never many anything’s, it just seems that way. 

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ It sounds like you aren't 100% sure what infinity means, or if it's a fundamental aspect of reality or not. To me.

1. You don't seem to think infinity has anything to do with numbers or concepts? is that true?

2. You seem to think people equate it with God and/or nothingness? But, is it true that God is infinity? Who cares what people believe.

3. You are wondering how many kinds of experiences are possible and not sure how many? It is uncountable as you say as we are held to our own experience. But, we have to wonder what Mind is at all. If it's pure consciousness and nothing... How can it have constraints? If there are no constraints infinity is a must..?

4. At the end it seems like you suggest there is nothing real? "Never many anythings?" or that division is not real?

5. You say the amount of "experiences" is uncountable, That infinity is just "an idea" of what God is, and that this can't be known that God is infinity.. But, do you know this for sure?

6. On the matter of control, you are saying maybe God is just the way it is and that has nothing to do with control which is an interesting idea. But, there is still the question of why is God the way it is, and why is human life so well organized, orderly, intelligent and stable? You aren't really sharing an an argument here.

 

[Thought Art]

On 5/11/2025 at 9:44 AM, Leo Gura said:

The human mind needs consistency to feel sane. This is not an a priori argument but an empirical one. We know from clinical psychology how dyfunctional people get when their sense of reality is inconsistent.

What is Mind? What is it ontologically?

It is void. A void in which distinctions arise.

 

There is the paradox here with Leo's work that "clinical psychology shows how dysfunctional people are with an inconsistent reality"...

But, God's implications of solipsism, infinite mind, reality being your own imagination suggest to me a question begging here of the structure of finite sub realities within the mind of God.

[Mu_]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

@Mu_ It sounds like you aren't 100% sure what infinity means, or if it's a fundamental aspect of reality or not. To me.

1. You don't seem to think infinity has anything to do with numbers or concepts? is that true?

2. You seem to think people equate it with God and/or nothingness? But, is it true that God is infinity? Who cares what people believe.

3. You are wondering how many kinds of experiences are possible and not sure how many? It is uncountable as you say as we are held to our own experience. But, we have to wonder what Mind is at all. If it's pure consciousness and nothing... How can it have constraints? If there are no constraints infinity is a must..?

4. At the end it seems like you suggest there is nothing real? "Never many anythings?" or that division is not real?

5. You say the amount of "experiences" is uncountable, That infinity is just "an idea" of what God is, and that this can't be known that God is infinity.. But, do you know this for sure?

6. On the matter of control, you are saying maybe God is just the way it is and that has nothing to do with control which is an interesting idea. But, there is still the question of why is God the way it is, and why is human life so well organized, orderly, intelligent and stable? You aren't really sharing an an argument here.

 

If something has no constraints it doesn’t necessarily imply unlimited or infinity. 
 

God can experience itself in all sorts of ways, the degree to which isn’t necessarily infinite. It can be boundless, bound, feeling like there is control and feeling like there isn’t, random or predictable.  All sorts. The notion that all those can be counted is just “now” experiencing that idea. 
 

again it’s not important in my opinion if god has 1 trillion possible ways of experiencing a hundred or infinity. 
 

why is god the way it is?  And how exactly is that?  In my experience it’s not just one way. 

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ 

If something has no constraints… does it have edges, limitations or an end? Does something with no constraints need an authority?

 

Edited May 12 by Thought Art

[Mu_]

11 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Mu_ 

If something has no constraints… does it have edges, limitations or an end? Does something with no constraints need an authority?

 

No of course not. But this does not mean it goes infinitely in any direction. And it doesn’t mean it’s nothing either. Very mysterious it is 💩

Authority?  Not sure why that random word came up?

but with no authority then it’s it’s own authority your thinking?  I to thought something similar at one point as well, but it dawned on me that this doesn’t necessarily mean it chooses what it does, nothing made it, it’s always been being what it is timelessly as it does.  Choice, no choice, who knows and no one’s asking the question, nor is it begging to be answered by some outside force.  If you feel compelled to ask and inquire, then great  

Again god which you right now can feel like it has choice and other times not, both seem real and experientially it seems true, it doesn’t need to be inquired past that  

 

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ Well, you are asking the one asking. 
 

If something has NO CONSTRAINTS, at all. Could it be finite? Something with absolutely 0 constraints… can’t be finite. Because, if it did what would cause those constraints? 
 

By saying that something that has 0 constraints isn’t infinite you are saying that it is constrained and finite. 
 

That makes no sense, if you use some basic logic. 
 

If reality is a void and nothing… as, what came before the Big Bang… then it has to be infinity because it is nothing, and nothing have no constraints. Making it infinity and paradoxical.

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[Mu_]

That’s almost like saying if a sentence didn’t have a period it would run on forever. lol ok not quiete. 
 

you seem to be stringing together a lot of ideas that make sense to prove something that doesn’t necessarily imply such. 
 

not finite doesn’t mean infinite. 
 

I know I’m breaking the wall that comes after the 4th wall is broken. 
 

voids aren’t true nothings, true nothings don’t exist, that would mean god doesn’t exist and it’s obvious there is something rather than nothing otherwise this conversation wouldn’t be happening. Or at least seem to. 
 

having no constraints does not mean it will do everthing imaginable that can be thought about. God will do what god is and does, it doesn’t mean it will experience inside out pink elephants 

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ No, because if a sentence ended at the last letter it would be constrained. Whether there is a period or not doesnt matter. That’s a clear straw man of something having 0 contraints being infinite. 
 

That is not the same as something with absolutely 0 constraints.

We are exploring the logic of God. I think we first have to establish what something that has 0 contraints means. 
 

Even the fact that a sentence is a sentence is a constraint as well. Let alone of it ends in a period or a letter. 
 

“Just because something isn’t finite doesn’t mean it’s infinite” 

Well, what does it mean? If it’s not finite what is it? 
 

I am a noobie in this work. In a sense. I am exploring this work. 
 

Just don’t think about

Pink Elephant.

 

Edited May 12 by Thought Art

[Mu_]

Just now, Thought Art said:

@Mu_ No, because if a sentence ended at the last letter it would be constrained. 
 

That is not the same as something with absolutely 0 constraints.

I know I was joking. 
 

your believing the meanings that words have on your experience apply to actual reality. 
 

finite seems to mean constrained and non finite seems mean infinite which you seem to think mean unlimited amount. 
 

god is forever with no before pr after and experiences. But this doesn’t mean experiences an unlimited variety. I don’t know high variety. A lot?

[Thought Art]

@Mu_ No, I am not talking about “amount”. I am not even talking about unlimited variety. 

I am talking about 0 constraints. 

Edited May 12 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

@Mu_ You are just wrong.

Infinity all the way.

Just cause you don't understand it doesn't mean the logic is wrong.