Where Are You All Trying To Go

[Sugarcoat]

12 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I guess it would be the enlightened noself that would be saying that to the noself.

I don’t know what u mean 😅

[Princess Arabia]

21 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

I don’t know what u mean 😅

Good, me neither 😜

[Hyperion]

On 7.5.2025 at 7:37 PM, Princess Arabia said:

I don't get it. This is planet Earth. We are here living lives. We get up go to work pay our bills, go to school, learn trades and skills, communicate, hang out, go to bars, have sex, do pick-up, put on make-up, eat dinner, sleep, buy clothes, go on forums, watch TV and movies, talk to the neighbors, worry about everything, be addicted to everything and fear everything.

OK, those are just ordinary mundane things that we do on a day-to-day basis along with other stuff. Now, the question is, with all this Spirituality stuff, opening to the cosmos, recognizing the true self, staying present, be in the now, doing psychedelics, seeking truth, learning about consciousness, reality, God, etcrtcetc, where is it leading you. (don't get me wrong I love this stuff too and i will keep doing it, but for it's own sake like I love to cook and eat and decorate).

I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm asking for literal answers. What are you trying to accomplish, seriously. I stated mine, because I love it for it's own sake but not trying to get anywhere other than for it's effects. Just like cooking, the effects from that is doing art and turning something into something else and being creative and seeing how a potato turns into potato hash. Etc. 

I still have to work to buy the potatoes and stove and then I shit it out and pee out the water I drank. Meditation might make me calmer for the day and sitting in silence might feel good in the moment. But for the end result, what is it. Where am I going, what am I becoming in the long run and to end up where. I still am on planet earth doing worldly things and on this forum typing words everyday and out in nature enjoying the sun. But what then, I'm going to get old and die just like all of you so where are you all trying to get to if it's not to get old and die and end up in the grave. If that's not going to happen and I'm just imagining all this and dreaming all this and nothing is real and there's just what's happening and appearing, where am I going still. Where are you going and what will you get from all your spiritual endeavors in the long run. That's the question.

You are becoming what you are being. Being can only experience itself as a becoming, as a seemingly unfolding process. So being and becoming are... you guessed it... two sides of the same coin.

But all of these words are pretty darn useless to you until you have the direct insight, sooo... there. 

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

You are becoming what you are being. Being can only experience itself as a becoming, as a seemingly unfolding process. So being and becoming are... you guessed it... two sides of the same coin.

But all of these words are pretty darn useless to you until you have the direct insight, sooo... there. 

Ok, so everyone, no matter what they are doing is becoming Being. So if you're partying, you're becoming being. If you're meditating, you're becoming being.

[Hyperion]

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, so everyone, no matter what they are doing is becoming Being. So if you're partying, you're becoming being. If you're meditating, you're becoming being.

That's the idea. 

It's the eternal cosmic game. Cause what else is there to do?

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, Hyperion said:

That's the idea. 

It's the eternal cosmic game. Cause what else is there to do?

Ok, That's what I thought. It's all the same just different in appearance.

Edited Thursday at 07:51 PM by Princess Arabia

[Max1993]

@Princess Arabia Yes. I see. I am just particularly giddy these days. Much love to you! 

[Hyperion]

7 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Ok, That's what I thought. It's all the same just different in appearance.

Ding ding ding!

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Max1993 said:

@Princess Arabia Yes. I see. I am just particularly giddy these days. Much love to you! 

❤️

[Hyperion]

@Princess Arabia

Check out ZDogg on my other thread. You ought to love the guy.

[Princess Arabia]

12 minutes ago, Hyperion said:

@Princess Arabia

Check out ZDogg on my other thread. You ought to love the guy.

Oh, I meant to check it out. It slipped me. I'll check in a few, gotta go to store.

[Schizophonia]

21 hours ago, meta_male said:

Leaving France might open your mind.

Precisely, I am in the best country in the world🤔 , which actually makes what I said less obvious to detect. 

21 hours ago, kbone said:

The 'bottom of the toilets of the universe' is a 'unique' perspective to hold in mind; I'll give you that. 🥴 I'd just turn the logic of the location around a bit, if ya know what I mean. But yeah, one's free to think any way they want.

It is to explain the infinitely small character of our human condition, I have a good kinesthetic vocabulary Mr.

The thought came to me during a major LSD trip where I embodied a planet completely devastated by/subjected to the cosmic rays of an energetic Tsar Bomb that I likened to God or something like that, even though I was very far out in its orbit.
It was so obvious from that perspective that human concerns were irrelevant; it was like being interested in the drama of some bacterias somewhere in my body.

Edited yesterday at 09:00 AM by Schizophonia

[meta_male]

25 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

Precisely, I am in the best country in the world🤔 , which actually makes what I said less obvious to detect. 

I'm just playing, my strange neighbor, you know je t'aime.

[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, meta_male said:

I'm just playing, my strange neighbor, you know je t'aime.

🐋 Don't worry I understood. 

 

 

[kbone]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

It is to explain the infinitely small character of our human condition, I have a good kinesthetic vocabulary Mr.

The thought came to me during a major LSD trip where I embodied a planet completely devastated by/subjected to the cosmic rays of an energetic Tsar Bomb that I likened to God or something like that, even though I was very far out in its orbit.
It was so obvious from that perspective that human concerns were irrelevant; it was like being interested in the drama of some bacterias somewhere in my body.

I wasn't doubting anything with respect to abilities, but was drawing attention to the allusion of identity as was stated.

I like that it alluded to the relative unimportance of self in the grand scheme of existence, but I was just stating that there is a potential to put even that largish picture into an even greater perspective (i.e., transcendent of self / Truth).

Drugs might help give one a glimpse, but they are not able to do the work of actual transcendence, consolidation, and integration. Drugs are causal aspects to insights, and that's something one can do, sure. Whereas, the work brings about the clarity and sensitivity to notice what emerges in mind from THAT which is prior to mind. The realization of THAT derails the entire perspective of what one has ever known prior to it, and then realigns with the greater order.

Edited yesterday at 11:37 AM by kbone

[Schizophonia]

14 minutes ago, kbone said:

I wasn't doubting anything with respect to abilities, but was drawing attention to the allusion of identity as was stated.

I like that it alluded to the relative unimportance of self in the grand scheme of existence, but I was just stating that there is a potential to put even that largish picture into an even greater perspective (i.e., transcendent of self / Truth).

Drugs might help give one a glimpse, but they are not able to do the work of actual transcendence, consolidation, and integration. Drugs are causal aspects to insights, and that's something one can do, sure. Whereas, the work brings about the clarity and sensitivity to notice what emerges in mind from THAT which is prior to mind. The realization of THAT derails the entire perspective of what one has ever known prior to it, and then realigns with the greater order.

I'm agree. 

[kbone]

On 5/7/2025 at 0:37 PM, Princess Arabia said:

I don't get it. This is planet Earth. We are here living lives. We get up go to work pay our bills, go to school, learn trades and skills, communicate, hang out, go to bars, have sex, do pick-up, put on make-up, eat dinner, sleep, buy clothes, go on forums, watch TV and movies, talk to the neighbors, worry about everything, be addicted to everything and fear everything.

OK, those are just ordinary mundane things that we do on a day-to-day basis along with other stuff. Now, the question is, with all this Spirituality stuff, opening to the cosmos, recognizing the true self, staying present, be in the now, doing psychedelics, seeking truth, learning about consciousness, reality, God, etcrtcetc, where is it leading you. (don't get me wrong I love this stuff too and i will keep doing it, but for it's own sake like I love to cook and eat and decorate).

I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm asking for literal answers. What are you trying to accomplish, seriously. I stated mine, because I love it for it's own sake but not trying to get anywhere other than for it's effects. Just like cooking, the effects from that is doing art and turning something into something else and being creative and seeing how a potato turns into potato hash. Etc. 

I still have to work to buy the potatoes and stove and then I shit it out and pee out the water I drank. Meditation might make me calmer for the day and sitting in silence might feel good in the moment. But for the end result, what is it. Where am I going, what am I becoming in the long run and to end up where. I still am on planet earth doing worldly things and on this forum typing words everyday and out in nature enjoying the sun. But what then, I'm going to get old and die just like all of you so where are you all trying to get to if it's not to get old and die and end up in the grave. If that's not going to happen and I'm just imagining all this and dreaming all this and nothing is real and there's just what's happening and appearing, where am I going still. Where are you going and what will you get from all your spiritual endeavors in the long run. That's the question.

Most are trying to go where they can get more for 'me'. When that gets exhausted, and the me is still found wanting, speerchal stuff/desires starts to arise, balancing out all the previous pursuits. That goes on and on. With any luck, the seeker will fail in the futile search for bliss, as it seen as unnatural. With the futility, one becomes more responsible for their self-serving ways. Once the little bugger has been seen for the construct that it is, and all the conditioned behaviors that have held it in such high esteem are seen for what they are, there's a chance that the Great Letting Go happens. One may realize that they were ACTUALLY always looking for THAT which is actually 'doing' the looking. No one 'knows' what makes that finally happen, but the futility is likely the key to the doorway that leads to the Great Surrender.

Tat Tvam Asi

[kbone]

16 hours ago, Hyperion said:

That's the idea. 

It's the eternal cosmic game. Cause what else is there to do?

What happens when the belief in 'becoming Being' is seen through for the illusion that it is? Not denied, argued against, or whatever, but seen as empty, as in "like above, so below" empty. What remains? 

[Hyperion]

1 minute ago, kbone said:

What remains?

THIS, of course.

[kbone]

@Hyperion

So THIS is 'becoming' THIS, and memory can only describe the change of that becoming, but not what THIS already is,,, I guess is what you are saying. At least, I hope so, hehe.