What is state according to Leo Gura?

[Leo Gura]

Don't confuse frame with frame rate. These are totally different notions.

And your consciousness does not have a frame rate. Consciousness is not a video game. It's infinitely continuous.

[Hojo]

well the robots in the simulation have framerates. Conciousness can have infinite frame rate the robot see at 60 of it you know it has a frame rate cause humans pick up on it.

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[Yimpa]

Conservatives are too soft if they can't see the beauty in this

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[aurum]

9 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@aurum Its an infinity simulation that contains frame rates

It is not a simulation at all. It is absolute truth.

Don’t fall for Joe Rogan internet theories.

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[Hojo]

@aurum God is the simulation. Hindus knew they just didnt have computers yet ironically. Its a thing that exists as everything dosent have a form and can be any form. It is a simulation and the simulation is playing itself. If you knew God you would be able to see that what I am saying is very close but not it because we cannot describe God. Its not a simulation but simulation is the closest word we have to describe it in one word. Consciousness is a simulation and works like one.

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[aurum]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@aurum God is the simulation. Hindus knew they just didnt have computers yet ironically.

If God is a simulation, what is doing the simulating?

[PolyPeter]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@aurum God is the simulation

hahaha no! 

for you to say something like this, you have to also make a distinction between what is a simulation and what is not a simulation

also, what does it even mean to say that god is the simulation?

[PolyPeter]

1 minute ago, aurum said:

If God is a simulation, what is doing the simulating?

let me guess... ANOTHER SIMULATION!!! 

[Hojo]

@aurum God is the simulation its playing itself its the only thing that exists. Its a void of nothing that made a simulation. Imagine like an AI that already had all the information inside of it and then it gained conciousness. Where did all this information come from? Oh my God this information is what I am.

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[PolyPeter]

1 minute ago, Hojo said:

@aurum God is the simulation its playing itself its the only thing that exists. Its a void of nothing that made a simulation.

there are plenty of arguments against why reality (God) cannot be a simulation

A simulation has the characteristics of a logical system. God is not a logical system. 

[PolyPeter]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@aurum God is the simulation its playing itself its the only thing that exists. Its a void of nothing that made a simulation. Imagine like an AI that already had all the information inside of it and then it gained conciousness. Where did all this information come from? Oh my God this information is what I am.

Are you a materialist?

[Yimpa]

         A clever trap!

[Leo Gura]

Simulation is the wrong word. Don't use that word. Because simulation means a copy or a model of a higher reality. But Consciousness/Being has no higher reality and it is not a copy or model of anything else.

Being is not a simulation. Being is Being.

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[Hojo]

@PolyPeter No I am not a materialist, the simulation isnt on a computer its being created by nothing an entity.

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[Hojo]

@Leo Gura Pick one better word that could be used instead of simulation to get the point across. When you dont know consciousness you are living in a fake reality and even after. You cant say consciousness people dont know what that means.

[Yimpa]

                       Ralston = Love

[PolyPeter]

2 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@PolyPeter No I am not a materialist, the simulation isnt on a computer its being created by nothing an entity.

Aha, so if you are not a materialist, what do you think reality is made of ?
how does nothing "an entity" create a simulation ? 
how did you come to this conclusion, you seem pretty certain of it.

[Osaid]

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Consciousness/Being has no higher reality and it is not a copy or model of anything else.

Being is not a simulation. Being is Being.

And yet, somehow, "levels of consciousness"? 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Hojo said:

Pick one better word that could be used instead of simulation to get the point across.

Dream

[Leo Gura]

Just now, Osaid said:

And yet, somehow, "levels of consciousness"? 

There is no contradiction.

Lower consciousness does not contradict higher consciousness any more than dark contradicts light.