smart people condemned to be alone?

[Mixcoatl]

4 minutes ago, AION said:

Ask Socrates 

Then shouldn't I recognize my smartness? Nor my foolness when being social? I'm exposing two main features that are related. 

It's crazy how in the forum there's so arrogant people pretending to be so smart when they answer. It's the same, and it's ok!!

Ask Erich Fromm.

Ask also Gura why he is so arrogant 

[Schizophonia]

16 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

I'm not here to explain why I consider myself a very intelligent person — just take my word for it.

The point is, it has led to a lifetime of rejection.
Girls break up with me every time I start revealing the way I think.
New people quickly lose interest when I talk about philosophy.
Old friends have stopped reaching out.

It feels like this world is simply not designed to integrate true difference... and that realization is deeply painful.

Have you found a way to socialize without sacrificing your true self?

It's not an intelligence problem, it's an anxiety problem; you're anxious, and your particularly intellectual concerns are rooted in this anxiety.

So when you communicate with others, rather than chilling out/having fun, sharing normal and varied libidinal anxieties, or even showing interest in others (Especially women! Women are more anxious/manic than men, and the sexual issue particularly takes the form of a transfer of anxiety from women to men), you must, I imagine, rant ad nauseam about your favorite topics and accuse others of not being intelligent enough if they don't want to eat this calorie-laden soup of language.

Just understand that behind this narcissism, there is actually anxiety.

Just tell yourself that behind all these concepts that you put at the center of your life, there is in fact a childish anxiety; Learn to see how your centers of interest, intellectual constructions do not have that much importance objectively, that it is just a hobby of some kind.

[Mixcoatl]

1 minute ago, Schizophonia said:

It's not an intelligence problem, it's an anxiety problem; you're anxious, and your particularly intellectual concerns are rooted in this anxiety.

So when you communicate with others, rather than chilling out/having fun, sharing normal and varied libidinal anxieties, or even showing interest in others (Especially women! Women are more anxious/manic than men, and the sexual issue particularly takes the form of a transfer of anxiety from women to men), you must, I imagine, rant ad nauseam about your favorite topics and accuse others of not being intelligent enough if they don't want to eat this calorie-laden soup of language.

Just understand that behind this narcissism, there is actually anxiety.

Just tell yourself that behind all these concepts that you put at the center of your life, there is in fact a childish anxiety; Learn to see how your centers of interest, intellectual constructions do not have that much importance objectively, that it is just a hobby of some kind.

Thank you. There is a lot of bad aspects of myself that I'm still not aware of. This little guidelines helps me to see more

[Applegarden8]

20 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

I'm not here to explain why I consider myself a very intelligent person — just take my word for it.

The point is, it has led to a lifetime of rejection.
Girls break up with me every time I start revealing the way I think.
New people quickly lose interest when I talk about philosophy.
Old friends have stopped reaching out.

It feels like this world is simply not designed to integrate true difference... and that realization is deeply painful.

Have you found a way to socialize without sacrificing your true self?

Yeah, i understand you. I don't know what to do to be honest. I just reveal more and more of what I actually am, but I am far from that. I accept that I am rejected for who I am. And I am going to be. The fact that I will be single for the rest of my life is where I start. There is always life to build.

I think the answer to socialize without sacrificing your true self are trough hobbies or art classes like theater or music. You could benefit from a fresh perspective and attempt to be more in tune with your emotions and expressing them to people around you. Being too logical is a no-no for intimacy.

You can talk about weather, person or an object with a woman you find interesting and convey A LOT emotionally and in body language. You don't need so much logical depth in this situation.

Edited Wednesday at 06:11 PM by Applegarden8

[Applegarden8]

4 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

Ask also Gura why he is so arrogant 

 got me chuckling, Leo is a good sport though

This is a good example. You should joke more. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:22 PM by Applegarden8

[Salvijus]

22 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

I'm not here to explain why I consider myself a very intelligent person — just take my word for it.

There's your problem. 

[Salvijus]

5 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

Why not? I'm pissed of that fake humbleness!!

Because the moment you think you're great, you're a fool. Only if you've realized you're a fool, you're intelligent. But then you won't go bragging that you're a fool. 

This video is perfect for this topic lol. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 07:50 PM by Salvijus

[Mixcoatl]

1 hour ago, Salvijus said:

Because the moment you think you're great, you're a fool. Only if you've realized you're a fool, you're intelligent. But then you won't go bragging that you're a fool. 

This video is perfect for this topic lol. 

 

Quoting Sadhguru is not very smart. hahaha. And that is so stupid to think that I have to think I am fool to be smart.

I'm very pissed of this narrative of fake humbleness. In the other hand, when you don't recognize the validity of your intelligence, they tell you that you have the impostor syndrome.

For me, it is very wise to recognize my strengths but also my weaknesses, that's why I'm opening myself in this forum.

[Mixcoatl]

2 hours ago, Salvijus said:

There's your problem. 

Thanks, I know it could be a problem to say that, but also, that's definitely my strength

[Mixcoatl]

My post express a TRUE necessity that I have.

What's wrong on saying I am a very intelligent person? I AM!! and it's not arrogance IT'S RECOGNITION. Ppl here smoked a hit of DMT and they feel they can correct others as if spirituality was orthopedic. Who is more arrogant?

Maybe I'm wrong on making a correlation between intelligence and my pain of not being able to socialize (thanks to the one that let me see that) and precisely that is the meaning of my post.
 

[integral]

@Mixcoatl it's a matter of practice, you wouldn't expect to sit down and play piano perfectly your first try or at the level of Beethoven, some people get a lot of dopamine from mundane social interactions so they get 100x More practice than introverts and they get a dopamine hit that boosts their mood and quality of ideas. It's worse because smart people want to think things through before speaking but when socializing you're supposed to just enter into a flow State and just say the first thing that pops into your head because it's 99% an emotional Exchange.

Moral of the story talk to 10 new people a week by going to some party every week and you're going to become good at it. And probably most of your problem is you're not relaxing into it and you're overthinking, unless you're really Clueless and have a kind of autism that makes it so you really don't get what's going on during social situations.

Edited Wednesday at 11:37 PM by integral

[Salvijus]

8 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

Quoting Sadhguru is not very smart. hahaha

I wasn't quoting him. It just happened to coincidence with what I was saying. 

8 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

And that is so stupid to think that I have to think I am fool to be smart

But you are a fool. You're just not aware of it yet. None of the intelligence comes from you, you really are just a nobody. Wise men understand this, as Jesus puts it: "don't call me good, God alone is good", or "of myself I do nothing, Father through me does all things". Essentially saying he's just a nobody like everyone else. Except He understands it and others don't. That's why he looks wise. 

The only way you can think you're great is if you have completely missed the big picture. And that's what makes you a fool. 

Edited Thursday at 06:13 AM by Salvijus

[Schizophonia]

21 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

Thank you. There is a lot of bad aspects of myself that I'm still not aware of. This little guidelines helps me to see more

My post was a little aggressive mea culpa.

[meta_male]

On 29.4.2025 at 11:21 PM, Mixcoatl said:

It feels like this world is simply not designed to integrate true difference... and that realization is deeply painful.

I hear you. What you need to work on is emotional and social intelligence. It's not about being less deep...but about being deep and also understood. It's the art of translating your inner world and communicating it in a way others can actually connect with. Don't think of it as wearing a mask but more like building a bridge.

[Breakingthewall]

On 29/4/2025 at 11:21 PM, Mixcoatl said:

I'm not here to explain why I consider myself a very intelligent person — just take my word for it.

The point is, it has led to a lifetime of rejection.
Girls break up with me every time I start revealing the way I think.
New people quickly lose interest when I talk about philosophy.
Old friends have stopped reaching out.

It feels like this world is simply not designed to integrate true difference... and that realization is deeply painful.

Have you found a way to socialize without sacrificing your true self?

It's easy. Being rejected by idiots is better because their company is empty, superficial, insubstantial, adolescent, egotistical, toxic, and sterile. There are intelligent people, and people smarter than you; the problem is that there are few of them. The next problem is that you may be very intelligent but emotionally traumatized or immature (maybe not). Cleanse your trauma, develop your true personality, and when someone intelligent and compatible comes along, cultivate that friendship. Having two true friends is infinitely better than being very popular in an environment of idiots.

[Breakingthewall]

17 hours ago, Mixcoatl said:

Ppl here smoked a hit of DMT and they feel they can correct others as if spirituality was orthopedic. Who is more arrogant?

Why do you think that they aren't as dumb as the average? The problem isn't IQ, it's emotional maturity. Most people are teenagers until they're 80, and that's dramatic. All of their social interaction is ego-boosting, and it's absolutely frustrating and exhausting. retarded like Elon Musk and Donald Trump. When they're having sex, they're thinking about how sexy they are and all that.

You have to imagine you're dealing with a slightly dorky 15-year-old boy, never play into his game, never feel attacked by his projectiveness, and be on top of it. Dealing with teenagers is exhausting; everyone knows that.

Edited Thursday at 03:26 PM by Breakingthewall

[Princess Arabia]

You have a problem you outlined in the OP. There seems to also be a problem with some of the responses. So you have a problem being smart, intelligent and philosophical and also a problem with explaining how smart, intelligent and philosophical you are. Seems to be a problem being that way, expressing those traits and the feedback gotten from expressing it. There's only one denominator in all of this. You.

[Mixcoatl]

On 1/5/2025 at 9:24 AM, Breakingthewall said:

Why do you think that they aren't as dumb as the average? The problem isn't IQ, it's emotional maturity. Most people are teenagers until they're 80, and that's dramatic. All of their social interaction is ego-boosting, and it's absolutely frustrating and exhausting. retarded like Elon Musk and Donald Trump. When they're having sex, they're thinking about how sexy they are and all that.

You have to imagine you're dealing with a slightly dorky 15-year-old boy, never play into his game, never feel attacked by his projectiveness, and be on top of it. Dealing with teenagers is exhausting; everyone knows that.

Exactly. That's what I mean. I have to accept that is not a matter of being fool or smart, directly. In some sense it is! It's like I can't go trying to socialize and try to talk about music theory when others just want to talk about sex or other stuff that is the common interest in average people.

But I have to recognize that I really have a problem that is anxiety and overthinking about the situation and as you said, emotional maturity. That's one thing I am working on a lot in this stage of my life. Thanks for letting me see that.