A question about limits

[Sugarcoat]

If reality is absolutely without limit, undivided,  no separation actually exists, isn’t that a limit of reality? That it can’t create real separation and limits.

Just a thought. 

[samijiben]

Lol, exactly: just a thought 🤣

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, samijiben said:

Lol, exactly: just a thought 🤣

Lol it’s a valid question isn’t it?🤣

Edited April 23 by Sugarcoat

[Ishanga]

3 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

If reality is absolutely without limit, undivided,  no separation actually exists, isn’t that a limit of reality? That it can’t create real separation and limits.

Just a thought. 

First we have to define "Real", there seems to be lots of differing definitions, which again says allot as it is a basic thing right, like Experience!

Do You Experience the the Tree like You do Your Finger?  If You don't then that is a "Real" Experience, if not then what is it?  Now who's to say this is normal or correct or whatever, maybe that experience of separation btwn the Tree and Your Finger can change, as some have said and claimed they feel it different that they can experience the Tree as they do their Finger? 

This is why Reality is just a Potential Producing Machine in basic language and structure..I don't know if a Turtle experiences a Tree like it does its own body, my mind says probably not, but Humans have said such things, so it seems we have more Potential than most other life in these matters..

The sense of Separation comes from our sense of Identity, and our Karma and Conditioning, we are for sure the most easily Conditioned life form with a variety of Conditioning patterns and methods laid upon Us, the powers that be have mastered this over the millennia, but luckily some have come forward and shared their experiences and methods for all to be able to Experience the Tree as themselves! 

[Leo Gura]

Real = Imaginary

So there's no problem.

You get two for the price one.

Edited April 23 by Leo Gura

[samijiben]

@Sugarcoat lol, idk what that means. It is like me asking, if I have a toe, but my toe is attached to my body, does that mean that I have one body and one toe, or just one body of which the toe is a part?

Then you remember, oh wait: I have 10 toes!

 

But even this is wrong as you now remember that u are Every being in existence and thus possess all toes to ever toe

 

This is the Ultimare TOE

[samijiben]

@Leo Gura lmao this had me laughing my ass off on the toilet. Lol

[Ishanga]

5 minutes ago, samijiben said:

@Sugarcoat lol, idk what that means. It is like me asking, if I have a toe, but my toe is attached to my body, does that mean that I have one body and one toe, or just one body of which the toe is a part?

Then you remember, oh wait: I have 10 toes!

 

But even this is wrong as you now remember that u are Every being in existence and thus possess all toes to ever toe

 

This is the Ultimare TOE

The very language cannot be used well to describe such things, when one says "I have" that means something was there before, it means two in essence, like I have a car, there is Me then the Car which is two...

Its true though, we have a Body, but identity makes us experience at certain levels of Consciousness that this Body is Me, so its a conditioning problem, we are given certain gifts at birth but we have to condition them to survive, being Born God Realized would mean You would not survive very long, so we are not born this way generally...but most everything about us is thru striving and survival instinct of having more than what we have today, whether its knowing more, saving more, spending more, experiencing more, anytime more is involved that is survival Consciousness, low Identity of the scale of possible Identities..Another word for Identity is Ego per say...

[Sugarcoat]

Guys, I think I solved it. 
 

Limitless= no limit. Limitless literally means no limit. So reality has no limit

Case closed 

😂

Armchair philosophy 😆

[samijiben]

@Sugarcoat I will buy your book.  Good work.  Lol

[Sugarcoat]

Just now, samijiben said:

@Sugarcoat I will buy your book.  Good work.  Lol

It will be a compilation of armchair philosophy going around in circles with language definitions and never actually getting any direct experience 😂my life 

[UnbornTao]

You can't think "infinite."

[Willie]

There is no separation, and yet we are separate.

[Sugarcoat]

3 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

You can't think "infinite."

Any thought is of something finite

[Leo Gura]

4 minutes ago, UnbornTao said:

You can't think "infinite."

Hold my beer.

Edited April 23 by Leo Gura

[samijiben]

@Sugarcoat better include a chapter of porn in the middle:

Chapter 6: A Well Needed Rest

"Dear dear reader, bless your soul for having made it this far. You are making good progress here! Now enjoy yourself a little, and come back to the studies even more serious! Lots to figure out ;)"

[Ishanga]

1 minute ago, Sugarcoat said:

Any thought is of something finite

Yes, all thoughts are recycled data just restructured to seem different...in other words nothing new is created...Humans though have the ability to create something new via thoughts that may come from recycled data, which is a sort of foundation of sorts, via that new thoughts/creations/experience may come about...

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Ishanga said:

First we have to define "Real", there seems to be lots of differing definitions, which again says allot as it is a basic thing right, like Experience!

Do You Experience the the Tree like You do Your Finger?  If You don't then that is a "Real" Experience, if not then what is it?  Now who's to say this is normal or correct or whatever, maybe that experience of separation btwn the Tree and Your Finger can change, as some have said and claimed they feel it different that they can experience the Tree as they do their Finger? 

This is why Reality is just a Potential Producing Machine in basic language and structure..I don't know if a Turtle experiences a Tree like it does its own body, my mind says probably not, but Humans have said such things, so it seems we have more Potential than most other life in these matters..

The sense of Separation comes from our sense of Identity, and our Karma and Conditioning, we are for sure the most easily Conditioned life form with a variety of Conditioning patterns and methods laid upon Us, the powers that be have mastered this over the millennia, but luckily some have come forward and shared their experiences and methods for all to be able to Experience the Tree as themselves! 

I’ve thought too what real means. I think we experience ourselves as real then that creates sense of world and other people being real. But do we really see objects? Or do we just see an even field? Our mind can kind of “limit” our perception to other people and things

[Princess Arabia]

1 hour ago, Sugarcoat said:

Lol it’s a valid question isn’t it?🤣

Yes, I actually loved this question. I see your mind is starting to travel beyond it's usual limits....hehe 

[Sugarcoat]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Real = Imaginary

So there's no problem.

You get two for the price one.

So it’s all imaginary , all the same substance