My Life's Question

[samijiben]

How do I Access and Embody and BE IN the psychedelic state permanately in sobriety? (Specifically in reference to MILD doses of acid)

Boom. Thats the question. Now for my rambling

1St of all, let it b known that I genuinely seek an answer to this question. I am not asking it flippantly

I Just love the state that Im in when Im off a microdose (ok, little more than that; 1/4 -1/3 tab). OH. My. God! Amazing!

I am aware of myself & surroundings, my sense of humor is undescribably good (obv), and Im just vibing. The way I interact with other humans (men & women both but especially the latter) is utterly fluid and graceful. I am a fuxking boss! (No ego Boss)

Anyways, clearly I rlly like that state. I want it all the time!

What is the way? How do I do this?

AGain, not asking flippantly. I fucking want this bad. I will make it my life's mission. This is worth more than any amount of money.

(I intuit that I got this all backwards. My ego desires the benefits of "consciousness," not wanting to actually BE CONSCIOUS and drop the bullshit desires & conditions. This is probably, counterintuitevely, the answer to my question. Either way, you actualizers on da forum always have some literal gold for me. I am excited to hear ur responses)

With Love, Affection, & a Wet, Virtual Smooch,

Ben :))

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Sugarcoat]

Maybe you should describe more elaborately how that state differs from your normal state, to pin point it more specifically. Like is your self different? Is there less insecurity ?

[Breakingthewall]

LSD doesn't just have a psychedelic effect; it's also a stimulant. So, the effect you notice that makes you more socially fluid is like taking cocaine. It gives you a push to be more expansive.

[samijiben]

@Sugarcoat

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7 hours ago, Sugarcoat said:

Maybe you should describe more elaborately how that state differs from your normal state, to pin point it more specifically. Like is your self different? Is there less insecurity ?

Yes, there is definitely less insecurity. 

In the state that I am talking about, my charisma and sense of humor and overall social aptitude is through the roof. At work, I close every deal. At a party, I'll attract everyone. My presence is magnifying. I get high off laughing at myself. 

My grasp of language is utterly profound, and it comes out in riddles and cosmic jokes that play on words. My gaze is grounded. I feel unperturbed. 

In sobriety, when talking with someone, it feels as if my mental-emotional gets "tossed around" with them. I will enter a whirlpool of feelings in synch with whoever I am communicating with, plus my own mental baggage. 

In the state that I am talking about, however, it is as if when listening or speaking to someone, I am able to remain utterly unperturbed by how they are behaving, what they are saying, etc. I still intellectually comprehend the meaning of their words, but because I am so unreactive and do not take their words to mean more than they do, I am able to respond with such composure, confidence, clarity, etc. 

 

[samijiben]

 

@Breakingthewall Right. I have considered that the answer I am looking for simply does not exist because the LSD state is a chemical induced state that is not sustainable in sobriety. In an earlier post I found about this topic, Leo made a comparison between accessing the psychedelic state sober and taking steroids; you just can't experience the benefits of steroids in sobriety: it's a drug, it's a chemical.

That makes sense. But insofar as what I am looking for is personal benefits and not consciousness itself, it follows that I may need to practice social skills or some such.

Yet, the solution is obviously not "practicing my social skills,"  since when I am SuperConscious (off a 1/3 tab dose or whatever), I realize that I have no social skills problems and I am the most socially skilled person...

So, in that case, the only solution really is "consciousness." Right? I guess this ties into the concept of "baseline level of consciousness (definitely an obscure concept). 

 

Therefore, my question can be rephrased as: "How do I raise my baseline level of consciousness to that state which I experience off just a small dose of acid? Is it even possible? Surely it must be..

 

Thank you all for your time [insert big heart emoji]

Edited April 21 by samijiben

[Yimpa]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/addiction-animation

[samijiben]

@Yimpa thank you. This video is most stupefying. What do you interpret the buttons to represent?

[Ishanga]

58 minutes ago, samijiben said:

 

@Breakingthewall Right. I have considered that the answer I am looking for simply does not exist because the LSD state is a chemical induced state that is not sustainable in sobriety. In a recent post, Leo made a comparison between this and taking steroids; you just can't experience the benefits of steroids in sobriety: it's a drug, a chemical.

 

Who said You cannot experience LSD like states naturally? You can, the drug is just showing a Potential within You that is always there, its just that You, and most of Us, cannot consciously control it, like we control our fingers and legs and such, but it is possible..

Most all of Us, like 99% of the population is living their lives by Accident, this is the opposite of living life via Consciousness, or Awareness, or via Free Will and Choice. there are many factors at play here, Karma or the residual effect of the actions You have previously taken (action in 4 areas, Body, Mind, Emotion and Energy) plays a huge role, most of Us are unConscious all these actions taking place therefore we are living by Accident or on Autopilot, but to be Human is to make choices, this is our primary gift, Free Will or the Ability to Respond and make choices.

If You were to choose, How would You like to feel right now, Blissful or Sad? Like learning any skill, You can learn how to choose how You want to feel, Just imagine no stress response (fight or flight) happening within You right now, its a useful tool when needed, but when everyone is in Stress mode all the time for no reason via over reacting, living not in the present moment but in the past or future, holding resentment, shame, anger or bitterness about something, etc, so if You just eliminate this one thing, for sure Your natural state will be Peacefulness, via this You gain way more clarity and ability to choose how You want to experience life, make the choice, do the work and its Yours for the taking...

 

[Yimpa]

16 minutes ago, samijiben said:

What do you interpret the buttons to represent?

22 hours ago, Yimpa said:

 

[CoolDreamThanks]

I was in the exact same place - I wanted it more than anything and did everything I could to maintain that state; unfortunately, as you can see from all the trip reports, both of forum members and of Leo - psychedelics never stay for long no matter what you do or what level you achieve on them. They push aside the reason why you are not enlightened for a few hours, show you what God looks like, and then you're back to the same place you came from.

So how? I'm studying ACIM (A Course in Miracles) because it's quite obvious that this book contains the highest metaphysical teachings, and hopefully, if I master it throughout my lifetime, they will take me to God.

But yeah, no magic pill, unfortunately. 

Psychedelics, especially the way Leo teaches to use them, are very dangerous bdw. You trick yourself into believing you are improving, but you always stay in the same place, and even worse, now you might even think you are a God, and that makes you such an arrogant and annoying little asshole.

God-realization is the biggest scam, haha; you are not God but a child of God, which is a completely different identity. 

[Breakingthewall]

@samijiben  

What you describe is that the LSD state is more useful, convenient, pleasurable, and functional for you to navigate in social settings like parties, since it gives you a more psychopathic, less empathetic, more brilliant, faster, and more domineering quality.

But you know what? Life isn't a party. In fact, parties are events for the mentally retarded who need to polish their pathetic egos 😅🤣

Edid: let's change retarded by immature , and pathetic egos by "egos"

Edited April 21 by Breakingthewall

[samijiben]

@Ishanga Thank you, Mr. Ishanga. Your words are juicy and insightful. You're the best  

 

@CoolDreamThanks Lol. This made me laugh a lot. It also humbly reminds me that, as I intuited, I did not ask the original question of this post for the sake of pursuing truth or pure understanding but rather because I was looking to fulfill another fantasy. FUCK! 

However, just as you are admirably and passionately studying ACIM in the hopes of reaching an ultimate end, or at least witnessing the positive development of your intimacy with Truth and Understanding, so I will set off on a journey of my own to eventually experience what I consider to be the best state in the world right now in this very moment. Amen. God Bless your Soulless Soul  

 

@Breakingthewall

Everything you said seems spot on except for less empathetic.

I would also add that I am not just talking about how I feel in a party or social event but also when sitting in the scorching sun of the slums of Delhi while watching flies whiz around me and rest on my limbs. 

[Salvijus]

10 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

I was in the exact same place - I wanted it more than anything and did everything I could to maintain that state; unfortunately, as you can see from all the trip reports, both of forum members and of Leo - psychedelics never stay for long no matter what you do or what level you achieve on them. They push aside the reason why you are not enlightened for a few hours, show you what God looks like, and then you're back to the same place you came from.

So how? I'm studying ACIM (A Course in Miracles) because it's quite obvious that this book contains the highest metaphysical teachings, and hopefully, if I master it throughout my lifetime, they will take me to God.

But yeah, no magic pill, unfortunately. 

Psychedelics, especially the way Leo teaches to use them, are very dangerous bdw. You trick yourself into believing you are improving, but you always stay in the same place, and even worse, now you might even think you are a God, and that makes you such an arrogant and annoying little asshole.

God-realization is the biggest scam, haha; you are not God but a child of God, which is a completely different identity. 

Wow. Nice post. 

[CoolDreamThanks]

@samijiben haha, I actually felt like your post is coming from an honest place. Wanting to maintain that “psychedelic” state is just desiring to be back home with God, we just need to find a way to get there, whatever our path is.  
 

@Salvijus thanks! 🤝🍻

[Salariatu]

Wanna get high naturally? Do shambhavi mudra. Is how you open the gate to natural DMT.

[Breakingthewall]

3 hours ago, samijiben said:

Everything you said seems spot on except for less empathetic.

I would also add that I am not just talking about how I feel in a party or social event but also when sitting in the scorching sun of the slums of Delhi while watching flies whiz around me and rest on my limbs. 

I understand you, I use LSD often in small doses , I feel it with just 2,5 ug

[PurpleTree]

Get addicted to radical nonduality talks.

[PurpleTree]

15 hours ago, CoolDreamThanks said:

So how? I'm studying ACIM (A Course in Miracles) because it's quite obvious that this book contains the highest metaphysical teachings. 

How is it obvious?

[CoolDreamThanks]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

How is it obvious?

Not saying it’s a path for everyone. In fact, it’s probably not fit for most spiritual students, at least not now.  
 
Many people I know, myself included, found A Course in Miracles to be unparalleled in it’s spiritual depth.  

It’s also unique in how it combines psychology and metaphysics to create a path for awakening.  

ACIM is also written in a Shakespearean style, which is so beautiful to read.

Yet, Jesus himself says in the Course: “It (ACIM) emphasizes that it is but one version of the universal curriculum. There are many others, this one differing from them only in form. They all lead to God in the end. (ACIM, Preface.2:5-7) 

I’m also bias, since various symbols of Jesus and Saint Mary have been following me all throughout my life.

[PurpleTree]

Alriiight 👍