I Am Transgender

[Carl-Richard]

8 hours ago, Salvijus said:

You have a point there. I too am very particular about what I wear. You can wear whatever you like. But it's not what you look like that defines you, it's the role you play that defines you. And God created certain roles for different people to fulfill. If you were given a support champion with support skills and antributes. Then you shouldn't play ad carry role. People will just report you for trolling. That is not how the game of life is meant to be played. Woman avatar has different stats than man avatar, their astrological alignment, their energies and their psyche behave differently to fulfill a different role for a reason.

There are many things that can make one feel unwell. Especially when reality is split into two largely mutually exclusive scenarios, which sex often is. Acceptance for feeling unwell plays a role, but so does making oneself feel well. If your kid falls off the bike, you don't accept them laying there hurting, you pick them up and make them try again. Riding a bike vs falling down can be a tricky business and treating falling only as "the role God gave you" can be a bit, shall we say, dogmatic and inflexible.

Edited April 16 by Carl-Richard

[Salvijus]

27 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

There are many things that can make one feel unwell. Especially when reality is split into two largely mutually exclusive scenarioes, which sex often is. Acceptance for feeling unwell plays a role, but so does "making oneself" feel well. If your kid falls off the bike, you don't accept them lying there hurting, you pick them up and make them try again. Riding a bike vs falling can be a tricky business and treating falling as "the role God gave you" can be a bit, shall we say, dogmatic and inflexible.

There is nothing dogmatic about having given a role to play. Imagine a duck descided to become a crocodile. God didn't give a duck enough upgrades to be a crocodile. If God blesses you with certain enchancmemts, use them to achieve the life purpose you're meant to fulfill in this life. How you want to look is not important. Wear whatever you want. Look whichever way you want. But the role that has been given you cannot be changed and you should honor it, that's what truly defines you. Start focusing more on your life purpose than your appearance. 

Edited April 16 by Salvijus

[The Crocodile]

24 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

God didn't give a duck enough upgrades to be a crocodile.

1. The fact you think crocodiles are "above" ducks.

2. The fact you don't include conscious alterations made by humans to be legitimate, which is self-defeating and self-contradictory since you are trying to get your ideology across.

3. The fact you think astrology signs being assigned differently to males and females comes from God when obviously it comes from humans.

4. The fact you think every soul or consciousness fits into a binary when obviously souls are nonbinary, and then obviously things that happen biologically and psychologically here happen as they do. There is never a point when your mythological understanding comes into play.

5. If Absolute Infinity exists you are wrong because reality could never be limited by your idiotic dogma, and there would be no necessary contradiction between improvement of life values in relation to Absolute values. If reality is finite it is likely to be a logical system a la MBT by Thomas Campbell, in which case you are also wrong.

Edited April 16 by The Crocodile

[Carl-Richard]

28 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

There is nothing dogmatic about having given a role to play. Imagine a duck descided to become a crocodile. God didn't give a duck enough upgrades to be a crocodile. If God blesses you with certain enchancmemts, use them to achieve the life purpose you're meant to fulfill in this life. How you want to look is not important. Wear whatever you want. Look whichever way you want. But the role that has been given you cannot be changed and you should honor it. Start focusing more on your life purpose than your appearance. Men and women avatars are designed differently, way beyond than just the surface appearance. 

At what point does changing something about myself become "denying my God-given role" vs just changing something surface-like about myself like my appearance?

Edited April 16 by Carl-Richard

[Rishabh R]

@Clarence You have overcame one of the most toughest battles in life. Great! 

As it was one of the quotes of Socrates (I don't know weather Socrates said it or not):  Respect everyone because everyone you meet is fighting a tough battle. - I think this need to be understood by me and the forum members since it's a self-improvement forum.

[Nemra]

@Salvijus, you are using your so-called God to justify your dogma. If God created everything, then it must have created the suffering so that you can change yourself.

Edited April 16 by Nemra

[Salvijus]

9 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

At what point does changing something about myself become "denying my God-given role" vs just changing something surface-like about myself like my appearance?

Haha, nice move. 

No amount of change in appearance will change the role God has given you. The role is what truly defines you tho. My recommendation is to stop chasing fantasies and embrace the role God has given you instead. See if that role is feminine in nature or masculine in nature. 

Edited April 16 by Salvijus

[Leo Gura]

7 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

No amount of change in appearance will change the role God has given you.

That's question-begging tho.

The issue is that you don't know what role God has given you until you struggle to sort yourself out.

Finding yourself and your role in the world is no easy task, especially if you grew up in a repressive or corrupt system.

Edited April 16 by Leo Gura

[Salvijus]

22 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

1. The fact you think crocodiles are "above" ducks.

I didn't say ducks are above crocodiles. 

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2. The fact you don't include conscious alterations made by humans to be legitimate

I'm not against any alterations in appearance. I'm saying alterations in appearance is not what defines you. 

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3. The fact you think astrology signs being assigned differently to males and females comes from God when obviously it comes from humans.

I meant female bodies being tied with the cycles of the moon and period that women have. It's a very special energetic relationship that women have to bear children. Men are designed differently. 

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4. The fact you think every soul or consciousness fits into a binary when obviously souls are nonbinary, and then obviously things that happen biologically and psychologically here happen as they do. There is never a point when your mythological understanding comes into play.

No, souls have a gender. That's very easy to prove. Just type in YouTube. "two souls one body" 

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5. If Absolute Infinity exists there would be no necessary contradiction between improvement of life values in relation to Absolute values. 

No idea what that means. 

Edited April 16 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

That's question-begging tho.

The issue is that you don't know what role God has given you until you struggling to sort yourself out.

That's a good point. How we define ourselves can change as we uncover more of who we are. 

[The Crocodile]

1 minute ago, Salvijus said:

I didn't say ducks are above crocodiles. 

You did. It's just the general sort of dumb essentialist pre-rational thought you have.

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I'm not against any alterations in appearance. I'm saying alterations in appearance is not what defines you. 

You have no way to distinguish 'appearance' from 'you' without resorting to mythology.

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I meant female bodies being tied with the cycles of the moon and period that women have. It's a very special energetic relationship that women have to bear children. Men are disigned differently. 

Then this doesn't add anything.

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No souls have a gender. That's very easy to prove. Just type in YouTube. "two souls one body" 

Oh okay, in that case then you can imagine a scenario where a "feminine soul" incarnates into a male body for a particular reason or experience.

But DID is not the soul.

In a relative logical system soul is just the Individuated Unit of Consciousness like in MBT and is non-psychological and non-biological, it's not even energetic.

In admittance of Absolute Infinity the soul is a "spark of the divine" which is non-gendered.

 

[Salvijus]

18 minutes ago, Nemra said:

@SalvijusIf God created everything, then it must have created the suffering so that you can change yourself.

Mm, I have no reply to this one. 

[Carl-Richard]

22 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Haha, nice move. 

No amount of change in appearance will change the role God has given you. The role is what truly defines you tho. My recommendation is to stop chasing fantasies and embrace the role God has given you instead. See if that role is feminine in nature or masculine in nature. 

What changes are permitted vs not permitted?

 

17 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

No idea what that means. 

It means God allows change.

[AION]

29 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Haha, nice move. 

No amount of change in appearance will change the role God has given you. The role is what truly defines you tho. My recommendation is to stop chasing fantasies and embrace the role God has given you instead. See if that role is feminine in nature or masculine in nature. 

 

[Salvijus]

33 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

You did

I didn't. And if you think I did, then I'm clarifying my position now just to be clear: I don't think ducks are above crocodiles. 

33 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

You have no way to distinguish 'appearance' from 'you' without resorting to mythology.

You can distinguish the appearance from what you do, and it's what you do that defines you. 

33 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

Oh okay, in that case then you can imagine a scenario where a "feminine soul" incarnates into a male body for a particular reason or experience.

Yes I can imagine that. Although I believe your soul takes up an appropriate body to fulfill its purpose. If your soul's mission was to play a certain role that requires a different body, it would have incarnated there from the beginning. 

33 minutes ago, The Crocodile said:

In a relative logical system soul is just the Individuated Unit of Consciousness like in MBT and is non-psychological and non-biological, it's not even energetic.

In admittance of Absolute Infinity the soul is a "spark of the divine" which is non-gendered.

We are exposed to different material and we have a different opinion on this matter. I can show you bunch of videos that proves contrary to what you're saying. 

Edited April 16 by Salvijus

[Salvijus]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

What changes are permitted vs not permitted?

In appearance? Everything is permitted. 

[Salvijus]

14 minutes ago, AION said:

 

"I am who I am" this guy gets me

 

[The Crocodile]

11 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

You can distinguish the appearance from what you do, and it's what you do that defines you. 

No you can't. It's all appearances.

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Yes I can imagine that. Although I believe your soul takes up an appropriate body to fulfill its purpose. If your soul's mission was to play a certain role that requires a different body, it would have incarnated there from the beginning. 

You have nonsense dogmatic beliefs. There is no reason to think a soul which has had mostly female lifetimes going into a male body and then acting according to that karma is inappropriate. There is no spiritual or ultimate or logical reason to think so, and obviously no biological or psychological or physical reason since the results are biologically, psychologically, and physically possible.

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We are exposed to different material and we have a different opinion on this matter. I can show you bunch of videos that proves contrary to what you're saying. 

No you can't.

Vital beings or things from the vital plane are not "your soul", it's just content that your soul works with. There are infinite planes of reality, and infinite ones intersecting with this one. The mythological view is too limited.

[Salvijus]

@The Crocodile fine, you win. 

[AION]

10 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

@The Crocodile fine, you win. 

is she confirmed she is a she?