Israeli Society Thread

[Nemra]

11 minutes ago, zazen said:

Even it were a minority, the issue is they control the state apparatus committing the wrongs.

Most people could be neutral or against extremists, but it's about who is more powerful and what they do with that power.

[Nemra]

54 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

Not triggered, just that it is important to connect this topic with simple words that we can understand each other. Zionism is a subjective word each camp define differently even inside Israel, so it requires breaking it down.

Fundamentally speaking, anyone who believes in having a homeland for the betterment of the lives of Jews. I think that resonates more with the original idea of Zionism.

What's not problematic about that when you implement that in an area that other people live in?

To be honest, I don't care what reformed Zionists call themselves. Why would they even keep calling themselves Zionists at this point?

[Nivsch]

9 minutes ago, Nemra said:

What's not problematic about that when you implement that in an area that other people live in?

So where would you suggest Jews to establish their country? 

[Nemra]

3 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

So where would you suggest Jews to establish their country? 

I didn't say that they shouldn't have gone to live with Palestinians.

The ideology was the problem.

[Nemra]

But also, if they included Arabs and Palestinians in their ideology, Zionism wouldn't be appealing to Jews.

So, by default, non-Jews would be considered obstacles to Zionism.

I think it was doomed from the beginning.

Edited May 19 by Nemra

[Twentyfirst]

Nivsch is a literal barbarain. Don't listen to anything this guy says. He started a thread highlighting the wonders of Israeli society at this same time of a birth of a new holocaust by the Israelis. He is also descendants of settlers and a settler himself as he is taking land that requires someone else to not be able to live on their own land. He wants the entire world to return to a Stone Age dog eat dog world type of system. His entire paid zionist propaganda job here is separate Israeli society which is supposed to be democratic into different camps. There are good Israelis who have no choice but to watch the bad Israelis commit theft and genocide. He says that soon the good Israelis will prevail over the bad Israelis but that has never happened in a century and he knows it never will happen. Basically saying that the good Israelis are victims of the situation with no real control. Meanwhile he still lives pleasurably in Israel and has no intention of returning back to Europe or joining the cause of the Palestinians. He has been posting brain dead statements on this forum for a year and a half now...mostly saying the same thing over and over "this topic is way to complex to be understood in just a few words, so please stop bullying me"

[Twentyfirst]

5 hours ago, Nivsch said:

So where would you suggest Jews to establish their country? 

There is something called "don't push your luck" or "quit while you are ahead"

Pretty soon you won't have a country. It's impossible. Too unsustainable 

[Nivsch]

@Twentyfirst Oh my gosh. What??

You aren't real man 🤣🪀🔮🪄

[Twentyfirst]

20 minutes ago, Nivsch said:

@Twentyfirst Oh my gosh. What??

You aren't real man 🤣🪀🔮🪄

You have too much confidence. It won't last much longer. Keep talking 

[Rafael Thundercat]

When even Teo is starting to awake up is a good sign

 

 

[Nemra]

@Twentyfirst, you have a skin in the game too.

The extremists from both sides feed each other, even if Zionists were the first ones who started the whole thing.

If the rights of Palestinians weren't diminished from the start, you wouldn't have any problem living with them unless you hated Jews.

But I also think that thinking that eventually the extremists in Israel will lose power is just wishful thinking that ignores the fact that Palestinians are being targeted and they could be wiped out before those extremists lose power.

Edited May 20 by Nemra

[Rafael Thundercat]

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/05/19/trumps-retaliatory-sanctions-over-netanyahu-arrest-warrant-halt-work-of-international-criminal-court/

Is this really happening? Trump sanctioning a lawyer, freezing bank account? 

can we all see that this is neo-colonialism still working as it is intended to work. 

[Loveeee]

https://time.com/7286958/israel-gaza-aid-babies-netanyahu-airstrikes/

[Rafael Thundercat]

@Nemra Brother, offtopic here, you have good knowledge about the shennanegans of Persian Empire? Armenia etc..

[Nemra]

23 minutes ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

@Nemra Brother, offtopic here, you have good knowledge about the shennanegans of Persian Empire?

Sorry, I don't know about it.

[zazen]

 

[zazen]

What a journalist:

 

Edited May 20 by zazen

[BlessedLion]

17 hours ago, Twentyfirst said:

You have too much confidence. It won't last much longer. Keep talking 

🔥☝️

Edited May 21 by BlessedLion

[BlessedLion]

11 hours ago, Rafael Thundercat said:

https://peoplesdispatch.org/2025/05/19/trumps-retaliatory-sanctions-over-netanyahu-arrest-warrant-halt-work-of-international-criminal-court/

Is this really happening? Trump sanctioning a lawyer, freezing bank account? 

can we all see that this is neo-colonialism still working as it is intended to work. 

Cocksuckers

[zazen]

Seems like more than just 10% are radical, unless withholding aid isn’t considered radical to Zionists.