Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

[Hatfort]

Interview with an Arab Jew from Israel, very critical of Zionism, and what it meant for his real roots. He opposes the usual argument that Arabs kicked Jews from their countries, but that it was something the Zionists wanted, sought, and provoked in every way they could. He also discusses more recent events.

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Attacks, arrests, threats, censorship: The high risks of reporting the Israel-Gaza war

https://cpj.org/2025/01/attacks-arrests-threats-censorship-the-high-risks-of-reporting-the-israel-hamas-war/

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Zionists throw Palestinian boy and father into oven testimony 

 

https://x.com/firasshams1/status/1760418570670928314

 

Edited January 23 by Twentyfirst

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How do you find Zionist deception? When something just doesn't make sense 

 

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Edited January 26 by Raze

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[Nivsch]

20 hours ago, Raze said:

 

At 0:00:06 in this video you already understand their level of maturity.

Edited January 27 by Nivsch

[Raze]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

At 0:00:06 in this video you already understand their level of maturity.

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

Edited January 27 by Raze

[Topspin715]

7 hours ago, Raze said:

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

The 1948 Genocide Convention defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".  This definition is really vague and can be applied to pretty much any war.

I don't really want to go down a semantic and academic debate of different genocides but it's clear that this term has been hatefully weaponized against Israel, largely because of the atrocities committed in WW2 against the Jewish people.

Assad had murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and the general public hardly cared. I say this as somebody who disagrees with a lot of the things that Israel does, but to call it a genocide is way out of line in my opinion. Words are just words, but they can carry heavy political weight, and to casually weaponize a term like that reveals a lack of seriousness and objectivity in my opinion.

As much as I hate this war, I see a ton of anti-semitism basically saying that Israel should just lay down its arms and die.  It has a right to defend itself and is surrounded by enemies, I don't know of any similarly precarious geopolitical situation in history.  I personally think they've been reckless with targeting but I am no expert and fighting an urban war is probably the hardest terrain on which one can fight.

[Nivsch]

19 hours ago, Raze said:

Omer Bartov, one of the most respected holocaust historians, and Mark Levene, one of the most respected genocide scholars agree with them. And others like Raz Segal and Amos Goldberg. Amnesty international has a 500 page report of evidence. 

If they are too immature then everyone is. 

Respected is a relative notion. By who?

"One of the most respected psychiatrist, who is also the most respected professor in Harvard ... agree with the Pharmacuetical companies ..."

Edited January 28 by Nivsch

[Raze]

19 hours ago, Topspin715 said:

The 1948 Genocide Convention defines genocide as any of five "acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group".  This definition is really vague and can be applied to pretty much any war.

It cannot be as it requires showing clear intent 

19 hours ago, Topspin715 said:

I don't really want to go down a semantic and academic debate of different genocides but it's clear that this term has been hatefully weaponized against Israel, largely because of the atrocities committed in WW2 against the Jewish people.

Then why was it used against Serbia for Bosnia? Which had less casualties than Gaza

19 hours ago, Topspin715 said:

Assad had murdered hundreds of thousands of his own people and the general public hardly cared. I say this as somebody who disagrees with a lot of the things that Israel does, but to call it a genocide is way out of line in my opinion. Words are just words, but they can carry heavy political weight, and to casually weaponize a term like that reveals a lack of seriousness and objectivity in my opinion.

That was over the course of a decade involving a massive war with heavily armed groups on all sides including Russia, Iran, the US and Isis. Syria also had 11x the population as Gaza. 

The Gaza war was one year of Israel one sidedly bombarding a strip with 2 million people trapped inside while Hamas fired easily intercepted rockets and picked off invading idf here and there. 

19 hours ago, Topspin715 said:

As much as I hate this war, I see a ton of anti-semitism basically saying that Israel should just lay down its arms and die.  It has a right to defend itself and is surrounded by enemies, I don't know of any similarly precarious geopolitical situation in history.  I personally think they've been reckless with targeting but I am no expert and fighting an urban war is probably the hardest terrain on which one can fight.

Nothing about waging this war was stopping Israel from dying. Hamas has no capability to destroy Israel. Hezbollah and the Houthi’s didn’t either and were just firing easily intercepted rockets saying they’d cease if their was a ceasefire. 

Israel isn’t surrounded by enemies. Its border countries of Egypt and Jordan maintain peace treaties with it. Assad in Syria never attacked them, and after he was toppled and replaced by HTS they didn’t attack either, israel however attacked them and bombed Syria and seized their territory.

If it is just about fighting an urban war, why did Israel block all food, water, and fuel until the US pressured them to let some in. If you intend to stop 2 million people from eating or drinking, you are trying to kill them all.

Why did they drop more bombs on Gaza then were dropped on London, Hamburg, and Dresden combined during world war 2

Why did they destroy water desalination facilities

Why did they drop 2,000 lb bombs where they told civilians to flee and fire on civilians holding white flags multiple times 

Edited January 28 by Raze

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7 hours ago, Nivsch said:

Respected is a relative notion. By who?

"One of the most respected psychiatrist, who is also the most respected professor in Harvard ... agree with the Pharmacuetical companies ..."

Respected by scholars in their fields.

Edited January 28 by Raze

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