Playlist For Understanding Israel Deception

[Leo Gura]

There is even a book written by a former Mossad agent called By Way Of Deception:

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Making-Unmaking-Officer-ebook/dp/B0GGQJG8BR/

Edited August 15 by Leo Gura

[Raze]

 

[Human Mint]

Israel: "Everybody wants to kill us, but we are the good guys, we don't want to kill anybody"

[sda]

On 8/15/2026 at 1:06 AM, Leo Gura said:

There is even a book written by a former Mossad agent called By Way Of Deception:

https://www.amazon.com/Way-Deception-Making-Unmaking-Officer-ebook/dp/B0GGQJG8BR/

Did you read this book? If you did, then does this book give insight into how does intelligence agency such as Mossad conduct risky military operations on Iran supreme leader and Iran top nuclear scientists?

Edited Monday at 01:44 AM by sda

[Leo Gura]

On 8/16/2026 at 6:44 PM, sda said:

Did you read this book? If you did, then does this book give insight into how does intelligence agency such as Mossad conduct risky military operations on Iran supreme leader and Iran top nuclear scientists?

I didn't read that one.

But I have another great book on my booklist about all the details of how Mossad works. It's an eye-opening book. Exactly what you asked for. It's got some crazy stories in there.

Edited Tuesday at 09:05 PM by Leo Gura

[Sandroew]

This book should be very interesting.

Gaza's Gravediggers: An Inquiry into Corruption in High Places
https://a.co/d/0bNBhXfG

Anyone read Finkelstein’s books before ?

[Leo Gura]

Finkelstein is not the best source.

[Sandroew]

20 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Finkelstein is not the best source.

I only heard about him first a few days ago.

The book gets kudo’s from Mearsheimer.

Also he is apparently in good relations with Chomsky.

Edited Tuesday at 09:57 PM by Sandroew

[Raze]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Finkelstein is not the best source.

Yes he is, he’s extremely thorough and even disagrees with his own side often when he thinks they’re wrong. 

[Leo Gura]

10 hours ago, Raze said:

Yes he is, he’s extremely thorough and even disagrees with his own side often when he thinks they’re wrong. 

He is pretty ideological.

[Raze]

53 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

He is pretty ideological.

You should look into his backstory.

 

[Leo Gura]

I know his backstory.

He's fine but I would look for more diverse perspectives.

[Sandroew]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

I think i’ll still get his book, but its a good shoutout to notice when he is getting lost in ideas and shouldbes.

Chomsky about Finkelsteins career

[Raze]

He’s books aren’t that readable, check the sample. They’re extremely dense. 

He was Chomsky’s protégé and seen as the next rockstar for the pro Palestine movement for years, but he got cancelled by them. The movement itself started dying out until Oct 7 when it exploded in relevance including him. He said his last book sold a couple hundred copies and dozens were him sending it to international court lawyers. 

Interesting talk where he goes into giving up to getting almost mainstream

https://peterbeinart.substack.com/p/norm-finkelstein-2026 

Edited Wednesday at 04:09 PM by Raze

[Sandroew]

3 minutes ago, Raze said:

He’s books aren’t that readable, check the sample. They’re extremely dense. 

He was Chomsky’s protégé and seen as the next Chomsky for the pro Palestine movement, but he got cancelled by them. The movement kind of died out until Oct 7 when it exploded including him. 

I’ll watch the video you linked tonight or tomorrow probably. In the video i linked Chomsky says pro Isrealis cancelled him. Maybe its not the full context or i misunderstood.

[Raze]

1 minute ago, Sandroew said:

I’ll watch the video you linked tonight or tomorrow probably. In the video i linked Chomsky says pro Isrealis cancelled him. Maybe its not the full context or i misunderstood.

That also happened. He got cancelled by pro Israelis which ended his academic career. Than later pro Palestinians cancelled him which ended his activism career until recently. 

Edited Wednesday at 04:13 PM by Raze

[Karmadhi]

22 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

He's fine but I would look for more diverse perspectives.

You praised him as a "beast" some time ago and also said he had a good general output on the whole thing

He may be ideological but he does a good job of exposing Israel war crimes since he reads a lot of reports and summarizes them

Also, who would you recommend to us instead?

 

[Leo Gura]

17 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

You praised him as a "beast" some time ago and also said he had a good general output on the whole thing

He may be ideological but he does a good job of exposing Israel war crimes since he reads a lot of reports and summarizes them

Also, who would you recommend to us instead?

He is good at arguing his points.

I just mean you should want a wider view of this issue than the far leftist view.

I've shared whatever sources I thought were good.

Edited 16 hours ago by Leo Gura

[Raze]

Murray Rothbard was father of the right wing strain of modern libertarianism and founder of anarcho-capitalism, he was born to jewish immigrant parents and lived through the creation of Israel, but interestingly was avowed anti Zionist and extremely critical on libertarian grounds.

https://mises.org/power-market/rothbard-and-israeli-palestinian-conflict

Interesting to me since almost everyone else in his demographic and political isle at born at that time had the complete opposite perspective. 

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"On the one hand there are the Palestinian Arabs, who have tilled the soil or otherwise used the land of Palestine for centuries; and on the other, there are a group of external fanatics, who come from all over the world, and who claim the entire land area as 'given' to them as a collective religion or tribe at some remote or legendary time in the past. There is no way the two claims can be resolved to the satisfaction of both parties. There can be no genuine settlement, no 'peace' in the face of this irrepressible conflict; there can only be either a war to the death, or an uneasy practical compromise which can satisfy no one."

 

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the State of Israel is uniquely pernicious, because its entire existence rests and continues to rest on a massive expropriation of property and expulsion from the land… In the case of expropriations centuries ago, who gets what is often fuzzy… But in the case of Palestine, the victims and their children—the true owners of the land—are right there, beyond the borders, in refugee camps, in hovels, dreaming about a return to their own… Justice will only be served, and true peace in the devastated area will only come, when a miracle happens and Israel allows the Palestinians to stream back in and repossess their rightful property. Until then, so long as the Palestinians continue to live and no matter how far back they are pushed, they will always be there, and they will continue to press for their dream of justice… But allowing justice, allowing the return of the expropriated, would mean that Israel would have to give up its exclusivist Zionist ideal. For recognizing Palestinians as human beings with full human rights is the negation of Zionism

 

 

Edited 11 hours ago by Raze

[Nivsch]

6 minutes ago, Raze said:

Justice will only be served, and true peace in the devastated area will only come, when a miracle happens and Israel allows the Palestinians to stream back in and repossess their rightful property

Two-State Solution + the 2M palestinians who already live inside Israeli cities freely.