Leo's Blog Discussion Mega-Thread

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, AerisVahnEphelia said:

I call what jiang does : selling narrative porn.

That's a good way of putting it.

[ZenSwift]

https://www.actualized.org/insights/exorcist-fantasies

10 minute mark. I giggled at the man doing the cross for the figurine. 

POV: Me in 45 years after doing consciousness work in a sloppy manner. 

[Lila9]

 

This video is such a good and detailed analysis that focuses merely on historical facts rather than on the political agendas of each side and their distortion of those facts. At the end, it shows that the Arab peasants in the country were exploited by the Ottoman Empire and their Arab family elites, who ended up stealing the land from the Arab peasants. The elites later sold the stolen land to Jewish elites, who rented it to ordinary Jews escaping persecution.

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Actualized Quotes #591

One hundred fucking percent! 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Re: Peterson Academy

It's been in it's death throes for a bit now.

The below is a first hand interview with 2 students who were expelled from Peterson Academy. They give an earnest tell-all on the inner workings and what they experienced. I watched it when it first came out a year ago - WARNING ⚠️ long. 

https://youtu.be/xyV34eMdmIY?si=wjuv3jf4TwmazyhB

Edited 2 hours ago by Natasha Tori Maru

[Leo Gura]

We have to be a bit careful because leftists can have an axe to grind against JP. So I am leery of fake students who join his Academy just to trash it.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

We have to be a bit careful because leftists can have an axe to grind against JP. So I am leery of fake students who join his Academy just to trash it.

I thought it was worth the share because the two students who joined approached the whole thing in good faith; they were so earnest and hopeful for Peterson Academy's success. The narrative moves from their initial hopes, enthusiasm and good energy into disillusionment and disappointment. 

But feel free to disregard without watching. Perhaps others will enjoy.

[Leo Gura]

@Natasha Tori Maru What did they get banned for?

[Natasha Tori Maru]

16 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Natasha Tori Maru What did they get banned for?

There was inconsistent policy around pricing - AFAIK Peterson Academy promised certain features. They raised prices without delivering the additional features twice from ~ $450 (original) to $500 to $600 in a year. Students asked for a timeline of delivery for new features corresponding to the price increases. There wasn't a clear response, and the community raised general issues around moderation, lack of clear conduct rules and claims that instead of an alternative University experience, the whole thing was turning into a paid premium lecture subscription service. The two women in the interview were expelled for questioning pay structure, service delivery, and participating in discussions around problems in the community/academy and potential solutions. One of them took issue to Mikheala apparently commenting to 'work harder and get a better job' when members raised issue with pricing increases twice in a year.  

Their criticism as they reported it seemed fair and justified IMO - supporters of Peterson Academy claimed they were creating negativity and trouble making. They didn't come across as burned left wingers with an axe to grind. Just left with 'wtf' after the experience.

[Leo Gura]

@Natasha Tori Maru That seems like fair criticism.

"Paid premium lecture service" is exactly what it is.

I see Peterson Academy more like The Teaching Company than a university.

That's how JP should have framed it. Framing it as an alternative to university is silly because it cannot be anywhere close to that. These are lectures for casual self-study, not a serious major in a field.

Edited 57 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

@Natasha Tori Maru That seems like fair criticism.

I agree - but it is hearsay - with some direct quotes of what Mikheala said which was poor conduct IMO. 

People can be calm and rational after the fact, but that group-think conformity shit humans do, can incite frenzied drama when people back each other. They may have had legit criticism, and they may have been responsible for inciting shit. There was an upvote/downvote system encouraging the snowballing. 

I always think bullshit and the truth arrive together 🥲

[Leo Gura]

I am curious how many lectures/classes does Peterson Academy have in total?

Do they even have enough classes to equal a 4-year major? For even a single major? I doubt it. Even one major requires a lot of classes that JP's buddies would not do the work to cover.

Edited 47 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Natasha Tori Maru]

I do not know how many courses they have. But they hiked the price with nothing new to present. Maybe it started as a good faith earnest idea - and then slowly acted as the good old grift funnel that feels so familiar 

[Leo Gura]

I did the math on how much money they make:

72,000 members x $450/yr = $32 million/yr

Not too shabby.

It is definitely a nice grift to line JP's pockets.

It is the perfect scheme to monetize his enormous casual audience who will never go to university but want to feel intelligent.

Edited 22 minutes ago by Leo Gura

[Opulence]

I remember his Joe Rogan interview where he said that it's much easier to make money by simply hating on liberals. 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@Leo Gura $399 / yr now

Started @ $450 / yr

Raised to $500 then $600 yr for one year then dropped back to $399

So probably a bit more not too shabby in the old pocket 🤑

 

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 minute ago, Opulence said:

I remember his Joe Rogan interview where he said that it's much easier to make money by simply hating on liberals. 

ROFL maybe thats what Peterson Academy really is 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Opulence]

Just now, Natasha Tori Maru said:

ROFL maybe thats what Peterson Academy really is 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[Leo Gura]

6 minutes ago, Opulence said:

I remember his Joe Rogan interview where he said that it's much easier to make money by simply hating on liberals. 

For sure.

JP is a clever devil.

At the end of the day, all these right-wingers are doing unconscious survival first and foremost. Everything else they do is tertiary to that. All their ideology is just a facade for unconscious survival.

Right-wingers are not conscious enough to see that their own ideology is just a front for unconscious survival. They rake in tens of millions with it. That's why they believe it so strongly.

Imagine if I paid you $10M/yr to believe in Christianity and MAGA. You would gladly do it.

Edited 15 minutes ago by Leo Gura