Arguments for or against prison planet

[No_Manny]

I recently learned about the Prison planet/soul trap theory. I would love to hear arguments/support/evidence which may prove or disprove it. 

Edited May 15, 2024 by No_Manny

[seriousman24]

Lets see, we farm animals to obtain energy for ourselves, maybe higher beings farm and clean up our energy in our sleep and when we die which is of course not necessarily negative but it might also generate similar levels of unnecessary suffering which could improve as time goes on just like it will with farm animals.

 

[Hojo]

They could be farming human fat. Its something you cant get by openly farming humans. If humans knew they were on a farm they wouldn't eat.

Edited May 15, 2024 by Hojo

[No_Manny]

CHATGPT:

ARGUMENTS AGAINST:

The soul trap or prison planet theory suggests that human souls are trapped or imprisoned on Earth, unable to escape or progress to higher spiritual realms. Here are some arguments to disprove this theory:

Lack of concrete evidence: The soul trap theory is largely based on speculation and anecdotal accounts rather than concrete evidence. There is no scientific proof or empirical data to support the existence of a soul trap or prison planet.

Diverse spiritual beliefs: Different cultures and religions have varying beliefs about the afterlife and the journey of the soul. The soul trap theory is not universally accepted and contradicts many traditional spiritual teachings.

Personal spiritual experiences: Many individuals report having near-death experiences or spiritual awakenings that involve feelings of peace, love, and connection to a higher power. These experiences often suggest that the soul is not trapped but free to transcend physical limitations.

Evolution of consciousness: The concept of soul evolution implies that souls are on a journey of growth and learning through multiple lifetimes. If souls were truly trapped on Earth, it would hinder their progress and development.

Free will and choice: The idea of a soul trap contradicts the concept of free will and personal choice. If souls were imprisoned against their will, it would raise ethical questions about the nature of existence and spiritual autonomy.

Overall, while the soul trap theory may be intriguing to some, there is limited empirical evidence to support it, and it conflicts with many established spiritual beliefs and experiences.

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ARGUMENTS FOR

While the soul trap or prison planet theory is not widely accepted and lacks empirical evidence, some arguments that could potentially support this theory include:

Reincarnation cycles: Proponents of the soul trap theory may argue that the cycle of reincarnation on Earth is a form of imprisonment for the soul. They might suggest that souls are continuously reincarnated without their consent, keeping them bound to the physical realm.

Collective suffering: The prevalence of suffering, injustice, and inequality on Earth could be interpreted as evidence of a soul trap. Advocates of this theory may argue that the challenges and hardships faced by individuals are part of a larger system designed to keep souls trapped in a cycle of suffering.

Spiritual amnesia: Some proponents of the soul trap theory suggest that souls are subjected to a form of spiritual amnesia upon entering the physical realm. This amnesia prevents individuals from remembering their true spiritual nature and purpose, contributing to the feeling of being trapped.

Control by higher beings: The soul trap theory often involves the idea that higher-dimensional beings or entities are responsible for trapping souls on Earth. These beings may manipulate human consciousness and reincarnation processes to maintain control over souls.

Limited spiritual growth: Supporters of the soul trap theory may argue that the challenges and distractions of the physical world hinder spiritual growth and evolution. They might suggest that souls are kept in a state of ignorance or illusion that prevents them from reaching higher levels of consciousness.

It's important to note that these arguments are speculative and not based on scientific evidence. The soul trap theory remains a controversial and fringe belief within the realm of spirituality and metaphysics.

[Yeah Yeah]

I hope not I want to be a super free spiritual beings and never reincarnate forcefully - or is there a corresponding attachment of resistant which attaches me to come back - or did I agree to come to this life 

[Shawn Philips]

You're mixing three topics here:

The harvest of human psychic energy in energetic centers that usually over ley-lines that would feed other beings in the 4th 5th dimension (called archons or reptiles in conspiracy circles).

The planet being a holographic prison as a matrix.

The rigged reincarnatory cycle and the trap.

The first and second we cannot have proof of that.

The 3rd we have proofs like hypno regressions of past lives, people who didnt have all his memories wiped. Also most the Near-death experiences point the white light as a trap and how they run away from it they came back to life.

I've heard multiple times the reincarnation trap theory from different people, cultures. In my opinion the matrix reads all your memories and renders holograms of your loved ones, people you admired and they manipulate you referring to guilt, mistakes, missed oportunities you had in life to come back reincarnating again and again...

We reincarnate with our memory deleted so we dont knoe what we came for, see the rigged pattern? We cannot come here to learn lessons if they delete the learnt lesson.

Edited 9 hours ago by Shawn Philips

[theleelajoker]

I recently re-watched the matrix and I had a strange feeling about it. Just wondering...How do I know that this is not a prison for my mind? Why is it so hard to get answers to why am I here? Why is my existence so veiled, with zero knowledge of what was before? What DO I actually know from direct experience?

Re last question, really leaving EVERYTHING aside that I ever read, heard or seen with others. Forget what Bagavad Gita, or Buddha, or Scriptures or "spiritual teachers" (incl. Leo) or whatever says. What do I really know? It's not much tbh. 

There can be infinite explanations, "good" or "bad" ones. I don't know what's going on.

But one thing I know from subjective experience: whenever I had deep conversations with "others"(especially after Vipassana retreats), when I directly asked "what's going on here?" Or "what do you think is going on?", then I got typically very evasive answers, people dogded the question in ways that seemed strange to me. 

On the other hand, I heard quite a few times "don't ask to many questions, don't go to deep" or others said "I don't really want to know".

There are also other experiences that just seem intended to keep me here. Again, infinite possible reasons for that. The prison planer idea is for me equally valid as many other theories about life here, so I'm surprised this thread doesn't get more attention. 

[tuku747]

[Yeah Yeah]

@Shawn Philips but also NDE accounts also point out that the truth between beings is a type of honesty and knowing which can't quite hide lies or dishonesty - it's almost a spiritual telepathic knowing between spiritual entities so that you can't hide manipulation tactics but can see through one another's thoughts and intentions honestly and openly. So that level honesty surely can't hide manipulation tactics for reincarnation trap loops. Also the dying brain floods dopamine, serotonin, DMT chemical-like drugs and endorphins these being positive states not negative.

[Jodistrict]

The world has a collective shadow that wants to keep you in ignorance.  You will find this when you start to ascend in consciousness.  People you know will start to reject you or even feel threatened.  At some point, you may need to go into solitude.  You need the grace of God to escape the mass delusion.