The problem of not knowing and acting on the relative world

[Natasha Tori Maru]

1 hour ago, theleelajoker said:

I agree in general. Being> concept.

But is the idea of God, how you describe him - boredom, immobilized etc - not a concept itself, the very thing you recommend to drop?

This would still be No 1, wouldn't it? 

 

Just the best way to try to answer OPs question. Dropping it all is the way to being.

[James123]

42 minutes ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

Just the best way to try to answer OPs question. Dropping it all is the way to being.

İf it was that, you should never have so called birth. Because You are already it.

Reason of so called separation is, only experience to love.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

@James123

It's just a reframe. Alternate way to view, enhance & deepen understanding. Some frames assist with grounding in reality, in the present. The body.

[James123]

On 7/12/2025 at 5:26 AM, Natasha Tori Maru said:

@James123

It's just a reframe. Alternate way to view, enhance & deepen understanding. Some frames assist with grounding in reality, in the present. The body.

Present moment, only brings love as present. 

However, there is no attachments/beliefs/ideas are there. Just simply, naked You.

[Natasha Tori Maru]

47 minutes ago, James123 said:

Present moment, only brings love as present. 

However, there is no attachments/beliefs/ideas are there. Just simply, naked You.

Yes.

However, when one is confused, they typically aren't able to identify the source of the confusion.

Highlighting the concept or frame they are using is like a torch illuminating an fox lurking in the dark.

THERE IT IS! Now I can shoo it away

Give them the frame/concept so as they grow, they learn to discern experientially. They will naturally outgrow. And so, discard.

I just try to show the next step on their personal road to the truth.

Just telling the truth never really works.

They have to find it for themselves