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Breakingthewall replied to Mellowmarsh's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes he said that he asked himself without pause: who I am, etc, but in the text that I quoted he exposed an opposite idea. Ramana isn't clear, he's intentionally confusing and mysterious, when the topic is clear, direct, simple. Reading what he said seems that he was confused. He talked about reincarnation, mashamadi, he said that he enlightened a cow, or that his mother ended the wheel of incarnations. Bit weird right? -
April.9.2 1 Idea: Use music notation and the sectrum-time respresentation of sound for art. Is there a free plugin I can use? 2 remember swadesh list 3 the composites are not roots but rather principles from which the roots originate 4 what is formal semantics? Is Silexis a kind of formal semantics? 5 I think my lamguage is oligosynthetic. It might be a very good oligosynthetic language actually. 6 Translation blending load epistemic closure error correction April.10.1 1 One way to translate the suffix "-less" is by using the prefix "(a)vea(b)" meaning empty in a metaphysical sense. 2 remember ablative 3 Silexis is an a priori language. 4 WHOAH it seems I'm doing something similar to what W. John Weilgart is doing with his conlang aUI. 4.1 "The language of space" is a wild name it would also fot as a name for my language. 4.2 "aUI The Language of Space is a symbolic, universal language designed to "heal the human mind from the slavery of slogans of hate into a peace through understanding, a cosmic consciousness of harmony with the universal Spirit" okay yeah it seems I'm his literal reincarnation. 4.3 "Peace through Understanding" yeah that's silexis 4.4 He is a psychoanalyst that's wild. Yeah I'm exited to learn about aUI 5 Yeah I need to learn everything about oligosynthetic languages. 6 It seems that oligosynthetic is a false dream. I've actually seemed realized this already which is why my language is actually more semi-oligosynthetic. 7 I need tk investigate Ithkuil 8 "In Toki Pona, meanings are built by syntax (phrases), not morphology. Example: • jan = person • pona = good • jan pona = friend But this is just two words in a phrase, not a new word formed from morphemes." 8.1 This actually seems more similar to my language. 9 Maybe "a priori philosophical language" is the best description of silexis. 10 "Quijada's interest in conlanging began when he was introduced to the utopian politics of the Esperanto group as well as some books from a record store near his home" 10.1 woah that's interesting, since my politics are also very utopian. Guess I will have to investigate esperanto more too. 11 It seems I'm mainly doing glossopoia rather than conlanging. I'm doing this for artistic reasons and for study of culture mainly. 11.1 "The word was popularized by J. R. R. Tolkien, who was both a philologist and a novelist. Tolkien described his own language creation (such as Quenya and Sindarin) as glossopoeia. For him, inventing languages was often the primary creative activity, and the stories of Middle-earth were partly written to give those languages a cultural setting." whoa this is wild. I hate that I don't love lord of the rings now. 12 Post draft glossopoeia So maybe some of y'all know me as the dude who metaphorically runs around screaming about the importance of neurodivergency. 12.1 Post draft response to carl richard @Carl-Richard I came to these conclusions through studying my own brain and carefully observing other people with ADHD. So far this model has not failed me once and it makes insane predictions about peoples lives irl that's why I trust it so much. First I will give my abstract view and then I will attempt to give a reductionist explanation. Abstract explanation I call people without ADHD point-people (23-04-35) and people with ADHD non-point-people (83-04-35) or diffusion-people. Evolutionary explanation Reductionist Explanation The way I explain the emergence of point-being is that it has something to do with different modes of computation. The idea is "if one takes in a lot of information at once and is processing them in parallel, it is fast, but the result comes with uncertainty and can't be checked like sequential computation".
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GodisOne replied to Hasson_Miah's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You believe in reincarnation, but you don't believe in heaven and hell? If you take the general definition of heaven and hell, where one is a better life and the other is a worse life, then, if you believe in reincarnation, you HAVE to believe in heaven and hell. Even if you take the strict religious definition, then if you believe in reincarnation, you are more likely to believe in heaven and hell i.e places where you go to in the next life. You believe in jinns. But you don't believe in angels. That's ridiculous. If you're going to believe in unseen creatures, might as well believe in them all; you don't get to choose which ones to believe in based on preference. The source ends when you end? So now you're taking a solipsistic view. That's the ultimate narcissistic viewpoint that's seen as ridiculous by almost everyone. Your understanding of reality sounds very confused. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In that sense there WAS apparent formed existence prior to your birth from your parents that birthed you and their parents to them...etc...etc....and all other biological creatures and such. But there's nobody in the body that knows that. It's just obvious from watching how existence survives and reproduces currently. If the body awakens and feels refreshed, it's just obvious that it most likely slept well. Contrary to popular belief, there doesn't need to be a "what/who/witness/knower", for something to just be obvious. When the "sense of self/the knower" is recognized to have never been real, there are still memories of how silly and conditioned "its" illusory belief systems actually were. There is no more confusion about incarnation or reincarnation, heaven or hell, god or satan, good or evil, because it's now obvious that these were just ridiculous stories created and passed down from generation to generation in an attempt to create meaning and purpose and a sense knowing and groundedness..............btw, humans are the only creatures that desperately need there to be meaning and purpose..........all other creatures just go about their days existing. Nobody knows the origin of life and even if we did, it still wouldn't matter. That body, this body, every body will eventually be dust in the wind. There is no hope which is simultaneously the freedom longed for but which is only recognized upon Samadhi or the collapse of the self illusion! -
Franz_ replied to TheGod's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Lazarus93 so like everything can happen then right?literally. not just the same boring reincarnation stuff to the same world,for example i could reincarnate to a fantasy world where magic,dragons things like that exist right,or is it limited in that way? and any other stuff i want basically -
I think we have measureable qualities of very different things. We have "unidentified" and "flying" "objects" - in this objectual realm, we cannot claim much contact; this whole classification is rather based on security and not advancing field of contact, exchange of science and culture; technology, possibly, is exchanged by this classification: rather, this is a close contact with extraterrestial life. While unidentified flying objects, if they exist, could prove extraterrestial life, most of the meaningful contact and cooperation is rather different. We have distinct kinds of reports; I classify them in alchemical categories: - Mental. This is the realm by which, we calculate probabilities of life, their survival criteria including by which terms they can be advanced civilization and reach, basically, us. Here, definitions of species, their incomes and outcomes and shares or conflicts with us can be measured based on criteria, including the probability to have anything to do. On mental level, any other creature has definitely "noticed us": we might include their hypothesis on which life might exist, and how to treat it, and we can logically build on this mental field, to be ready and prepared, and to estimate any intelligent race is ready and prepared, but on their own terms, as they meet us - by this time, we can develop intelligent response based on intelligent quest inside our mind, and it's infinite potential to create imaginations, mythic realities, and estimation calculations; as well as answering questions like "what is necessary even to be alive, and then to come as an alien? what is necessary to survive?". Theoretical category, as open minded and profound it can be, will be inclusive to things we haven't seen, and we can reach far in probabilities to include each outcome. - Spiritual. We dig deep into our own being: we look at sky, from colors we mentally take the light interference patterns into the chemisty, so with plain eye we see chemistry in sky, associating with elements we know. We can see the color of third eye at pleyades and especially andromeda, or "war color" of red at Mars; or the shining brilliance of Sirius - all this is associated with categories we know. Spiritual people, at least, resonate with the multidimensional realities, which associate with themselves, and draw from civilizations they would build there, if they was of the same element: while it's hard to follow the whole universal reincarnation, as well we are criticized by beings who naturally reincarnate on the same planet and call this "reincarnation" - some beings are very much adopted to their native environment, and cannot cope well with big changes. We can see elements play in human soul, and recognize: how elements of people are associated with elements of certain planets, galaxies etc., and how they basically still play the "would-be": the actual quality of being born there, is hard to measure, but we can see how we are part of universal play of elements, and might not represent here the element which actually is dominant here, and identifies Earth: in desert of Earthly sands, typical sands, you can suddenly find rocks of Mercury; while not being, perhaps, from this planet: they resonate with rocks of mercury, the hologram vibration of each energy they got to vibrate at all; both light and radioactivity are tuned most often between the same element. - Material. In this sense, alien contact involves physical visits. In this sense, we must physically see the alien, or read radio signals and identify their sources. While this is the strictest criteria, this is hard to meet: since we ourselves are not capable for travelling space based on our understanding of who to meet, we can do this kind of contact only with alien, which is able and willing to reach here. We all live in our personal realities, and on openness of fields: for each of us, our travel in quantum multidimension, rather than 3D realm which is only the effect of "mirage" of this depth of dimension, creates us a definite reality of open possibilities all around us. This is not speculative philosophy of abstract realms and metadimensions such as logic and math; this is rather a real, material philosophy of this: space around us leaves it's possibilities open, and we are having alchemy with it for long time before it reacts. These two realms: the world we see from inside, where the spirit travels matter by it's meaningful combinations, and the world outside, a material quantity associated with effects of this spirit, our conscious field; it's very synchronous one: while for spirit, it unfolds like a "dream", a world which seems to be able to create different realities freely to different beings, but in matter, it's a physical realm which follows sure material patterns - how this material realm, which is not a dream but an automata or a machine, provides to the spirit inside, is the fact that indeed, the spirit has been evolved with this matter to constitute it's meaningful view: inside, the spirit dreams, and based on their own consequences, different realities appear to them. This dreaming spirit can be sure in elements in fractal, and how each element gives life somewhere: naturally, the "fire people", "water" or "ice" people etc.; we can see them building life from their local elements, and melting into their nature and natural world while carrying the deeper meaning of life - how it responds here, locally, to grand consequences matter is blind of. These three categories are rather meaningful for development of our culture: naturally, we look for aliens which are not in conflict with others or which is handling their conflicts; while KGB and CIA might screen their criminals and warn us, we can find native cityzens who are not actually entities for them, it seems: I have seen aliens enjoy human life.
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What happens to consciousness when its form dissolves be it a rock, an animal or a specific human? How does consciousness chose its next form? Does it use some sort of a rule or it's completely random? Life is obviously seems to be unfair because someone takes on a form of a successful billionaire and someone gets born in Nairobi in Africa. Since God is a supreme and intelligent being there must be some kind of fair logic behind it. I'm curios to hear your theories and ideas about it, especially if you confirmed them in your direct experience. Thank you.
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Lunatic replied to Terell Kirby's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“§ 1. Before my self-awakening, …” 19 March 2026, https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/Wings/Section0008.html. ““And this, monks, is the noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress: precisely this noble eightfold path—right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration.4” (SN 56:11) “THE JHĀNAS are eight altered states of consciousness, brought on via concentration, and each yielding a deeper state of concentration than the previous. In teaching the eightfold path, the Buddha defined right concentration to be the jhānas. The jhānas themselves are not awakening, but they are a skillful means for concentrating the mind in a way that leads in that direction, and they are attainable not only by monastics, but also by many serious lay practitioners.” (Brasington 2015, Preface) “Waking up is a difficult task. It’s probably more difficult than cutting a wooden table in two with a dull butter knife. If you really wanted to cut a table in two with a butter knife, you could probably do it. If you pressed really hard, you could make a little dent in it right away. If you kept working and pressing, you could cut that table in two with that dull butter knife. But it would be really hard work and would take a very long time. However, if you were to get a whetstone and put an edge on that butter knife, sharpening it up, then you could cut a lot faster. You would quickly make up all the time you “wasted” putting an edge on the knife. Of course, after a while the edge would become dull, and you’d have to sharpen it again to keep cutting. Undoubtedly you could cut that table in two a lot faster with a sharp butter knife than with a dull butter knife. The purpose of the jhānas is to sharpen your mind, so that when you look to see what’s really happening, you have penetrating insight into it.” (Brasington 2015, chap. 8) “During the meditations Byron Katie moved deeply into her “awake” experience, so deep, in fact, that she lost touch with the sensory world. One day during the meditation an automobile crashed into something on the street in front of the halfway house. People jumped up and ran to the windows but Byron Katie sat there, still in meditation, completely oblivious to the noise, the commotion. “Then when they directed me to come out, I came out. They were all talking about the automobile accident. But I had done what they told me and I trusted in that. I was in meditation. I was just following directions.” Byron says that during the meditations she left and came back with knowledge that she calls revelations. … “For three years the revelations were nonstop,” Byron explains now. “I would literally take them to the streets and try to tell people, but it scared them and so they moved away from me. Really, the revelations couldn’t be put into words. That was where I was doing harm, by trying to put them into words. Once in words they narrow down to very simple things like _unknowing is everything; no time, no space; there is only Love; I am Love._”” (Weber 1996, _A Cry in the Desert: The Awakening of Byron Katie_, 26–27) “Without concentrated mind, progress is relatively small.” (Levenson 1993, chap. 10) “With mastery of the fourth jhāna, three other modes of practice become available. We’ll just mention them here briefly.” “Recollecting “past lives.”^20^” (Culadasa 2015, Appendix D: The Jhānas) Cf. 5-MeO-DMT and other psychedelics. “The evolution of souls involves a transition from …” (https://mega.nz/file/EwQBASQC#uclk5SXynVaNedy8Np5PuEpOOhSkwOJsVl4pK3wA_YM) See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journey_of_Souls_(book). Seretan 2008, Is everything preordained.doc. “Karma and reincarnation are part of the illusion and have no part in the Reality. Past lives should not be gone into as it is playing with the unreality, making it seem more real.” (Levenson 1993, 266) Weber 1996, _A Cry in the Desert: The Awakening of Byron Katie_, 26–27.pdf Is everything preordained .doc -
thierry replied to Franz_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The question of suicide is very complicated. In some traditions, there is no taboo around suicide; it is even recommended rather than living without dignity, as with the Japanese who practice seppuku. They opened their stomachs because they believed that this was where the soul was located, in order to leave a way out for the soul. So even in their beliefs, they still wanted to put conditions in place for the afterlife. Today, if we lived like the Japanese of that time, given the way we live without much sense of honor and almost constantly lying we would have to commit seppuku three times a day. I don’t know which of the two philosophies is better: « If life is no longer worth living, then it doesn’t matter. This life is only an illusion anyway. You can take it away at any moment, and you’re not going to live in an undignified way when you can die right away. It’s pointless. » Or the other philosophy: « as long as you breathe, fight. As long as there is a spark of life, fight. » A second question arises from the initial issue of whether suicide leads to hell, and whether the universe truly makes a distinction between dying by suicide and dying by other means. Does the universe even recognize such a difference? For example, imagine someone walking down the street and a murderer comes up behind them and shoots them in the head. Would their consciousness then be sent directly to some kind of paradise? But if the exact same thing happens except that the person is the one holding the gun and pulling the trigger would their consciousness instead be sent to a place of horror? In other words, does the universe really make such a moral distinction based solely on who pulled the trigger? Or even if the difference is not as extreme as heaven versus hell, might there still be some subtler distinction in how these two kinds of deaths are treated? I really don’t know Another concept that seems interesting when thinking about this question is karma. And yes, I realize that I am only working with concepts and beliefs that may seem elegant or plausible but that is really all we have to work with when discussing this topic. No one has ever died and come back to tell us what actually happens, or at least no one that we can truly verify. One elegant concept is karma. I don’t know about you, but at least in my own life or in life in general the idea of karma often seems to work surprisingly well. So why not extend that idea beyond life itself? For example, imagine a case where suicide might appear justified: someone whose body is completely broken. They are not dead, but their body has lost any real vitality, and they live in constant pain. Let’s say this person still has ten years left to live in this broken temple that is their body. Perhaps they are meant to go through those ten years. Perhaps if they endure those ten years and then die naturally, their next reincarnation will be completely “clean,” with good genetics and a healthy body. But if they end their life before those ten years are lived, perhaps their next reincarnation will be in a body with something like diabetes because they still have something they needed to experience that they did not live through in the previous life. Of course, these are only hypothetical ideas meant to illustrate a possibility. But even then, would it truly make such a difference? Living ten years in a broken, suffering body or having diabetes in a future life. Is it really worse to have diabetes in a future life? Is it truly worse to spend ten years in a body filled with suffering? In the end, does any of it really make that much of a difference? -
Bro. I just read the whole thing. This is genuinely one of the most epic pieces of ontological writing I've seen posted on this forum. The Infinity = Truth = Love equivalence, the three-layer self, the ego-as-installation framing, nice work. I've compared this to my own ontology, and it has a lot of common ground, but this are the main differences I've noted: 1. The structure of the Subject Your system: multiple Sovereign Gods that are genuinely distinct from each other at a deep ontological level. Two God-heads that meet are genuinely other to one another. Plurality is real, not functional. My system: one Subject (Universe/God/Consciousness), multiple object-loci. Me and You are not two Subjects encountering each other. They are the same Subject experiencing itself from two angles. Otherness is functional, not ontological. This is not a minor detail. It changes the entire phenomenology of love, encounter, and relationship. 2. The demonic layer Your system: real entities with their own operational agency. Demons do things, have ecological logic, enter through holes, install themselves. It is a populated ontology. My system: that layer is not necessary. Interference, ego, dysfunctional patterns all derive from the mechanics of filters and density levels without needing to postulate external entities with their own agency. 3. Reincarnation as structural mechanics Your system: a specific and detailed reincarnational architecture. Between-lives states, Heaven as a restoration state, selection of next incarnation through resonance. It is load-bearing in your framework. My system: the void as the canvas before manifestation does not require that mechanics. Stream continuity is not tied to a specific reincarnational narrative. 4. Belief vs. direct knowing Your system: operates from a very elaborate and sophisticated framework, but it is still a framework. There is a lot of conceptual architecture. The document itself acknowledges this at the end by calling itself a map. My system: post-void, I operate from direct knowing. It is not that I have a better map. It is that I verified the territory directly. You point at that distinction but the document does not live it in the same way. 5. The ego Partial convergence but an important difference. You call it a demonic installation, which implies an external entity that entered and took control. My system derives it from the mechanics of the filter itself, not necessarily from an invasive entity. Two different explanations for the same observable phenomenon. --------------- Also, I wanted to mention you that I'm building something I think you'd find interesting: an ontology battle platform called The Ontological Oracle. The Oracle takes any ontology and stress-tests it against hard philosophical questions, por example explanatory power, internal consistency, edge cases. You can ask your Ontological system questions, or see if a certain sentence is coherent, incoherent, or unexplored territory for that specific framework. Another use case is the arena, you can make your system compete against or in collaboration with other systems. And see if it holds water when discussing a certain topic, or if it needs to evolve in a certain direction. Your system would be a fascinating one to run through it. Would you want to try it? I'd be curious to see how your Sovereign Gods architecture holds up against some of the questions the Oracle throws at it. @shenanigans
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Breakingthewall replied to Breakingthewall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Interesting, but there is a knowledge about those false ideas, and any knowledge is something that is happening. For example, the stones doesn't know that reincarnation is false, or the ocean doesn't know that there is not a self. To know it one should know that before was a self, then that that self is an illusion. That, lets say, cloud of knowledge, perception of the body, of danger, belonging, etc is what we call the self. it's a form of the reality that is happening now, you can call it illusion if you get happy doing it, but it is a reality that is happening now, despite of the adjectives that you put in it. Why this reality is happening in that way? Because it's a separation between what is inside and outside. The stones haven't that separation, only the living beings that needs self-preservation have, and then we have, voila, a self. Btw, how now you, or whatever, knows the there is not reincarnation? Maybe the reality is happening in 2375 parallel dimensions where vegan awake is developing different personalities, then when you die all of them have to fight in a trial by combat, and the one who survives (I hope it's you) is going to paradise with 72 virgins -
VeganAwake replied to Breakingthewall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Basically when the self illusion dies, everything just becomes obvious. The body just feels more relaxed than it did before when it was running around in the matrix of self illusion and doing things according to its conditioned societal upbringing. Here it's obvious that there is no god or satan; heaven or hell; incarnation or reincarnation; no higher or lower authority or universal purpose or meaning. It's incredibly easy to recognize that all these beliefs and concepts are just fictional human made stories. Religion, spirituality, societal structure..........it's all BS.......totally made up crap. It's freedom from all that stuff! It's shocking and hilarious when it's seen clearly! -
I recently experienced a Taoist ritual. In the Taoist system, after reincarnation, memories are erased, and the soul is reborn as a human or animal. A person’s life is preordained, and things like the Eight Characters (Ba Zi) and the I Ching can precisely predict what will happen in a person’s life, including the future. The fate is meant. The life is a prison. The life of a man is meant to go through enlightenment and cultivation, with the goal of becoming immortal. In the Taoist system, there are countless gods who assist their disciples with magic and help the mortal world. Statues and deities people worship, such as the Three Pure Ones, the God of Wealth, and the Earth God, are real gods. If a disciple achieves immortality, they too will help other disciples. This cycle continues endlessly. I spent 3 years enduring intense physical suffering, seeking countless psychologists of post-modernism. Believing in love and practicing Qigong, but it was all in vain. It wasn’t until a Taoist removed the evil spells on me and killed the demon that had possessed me—within 10 minutes, and after a night’s sleep—my symptoms, which had lasted for 3 years, completely dissapeared. I started to question what is discussed on Actualized.org about the devil and god. Is it merely a philosophical metaphor, or is it the same worldview as the exorcism I experienced? In reality, an evil sorcerer can control demons to cast spells on people, cultivating demon servants, and commanding demons to possess others, causing illness and misfortune. One can kill demons, use magic to bring good luck, health, and wealth. How should these ideas be understood in the context of the teachings of Actualized.org?
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ZGROPIUS replied to ZGROPIUS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Before I had experienced real and effective exorcism, evil spirit banishment, divine or magical help in my life, I considered demons, angels, and various gods as philosophical metaphors. Now, I believe that demons are independent conscious entities, and after reincarnation, people may attain enlightenment and practice, eventually becoming the gods that help me today. -
Incarnatio~Into the flesh again, is basically what it all amounts to... ? Right, i mean you got your mind, your body, your spirit, the soul just being this... eternal, infinite, never dying, all perfect thing, or essence thats giving all things the experience of a real one (a real "-ity"), of something that moves, like liquid, or a snake; Ousia being the thing that the soul is emphasizing as such, And the Divine Light is also of the Semen in Latin, meaning seed, or a *spectrum of~that which we are all looking at, or alongside. It exists at our hearth, at the tomb/body. What do yous believe? Do you feel you come back as you, or maybe even its a reincarnation of *Another person INto you, or like a recapitulation of someone else, chosen from whilst in the Land of Reeds. I assume you heard of it and know what it mean. Even if you get devoured, you arent done. As a member of the soul, there is no choice. You can only ever press "continue". You cant say "nah im good" on it. The soul expresses it as is, defined as such. The details are a matter of freewill, though freewill is radically different. Freewill means anything can happen, seeing as anything is that which already happened. You dont do research into previous lives if you are infinity lives into a life by now, right? But back to the question, are you reincarnated, or are you someone else inside (maybe u feel you were meant to be) Like that could be a choice you have, if its something you want to have as a choice, but its not like you should worry too much. i mean, Hey, at the point of no return, you can go from seed to anything, like... The carnation flower is simultaneously the soul's incarnatio, i.e., DnA, water, minerals and dirt and such, upon coming into the world to breathe, or let others breathe~As a tree. I think flowers function like little trees in that way, you know what im talking about? Anyway, i was goin for a question/poem/whatever it is. An experimental question poem, which yous can interact w/
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VeganAwake replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The thing is, I can't remove all the conditioned stories, theories, concepts, religious beliefs...etc....etc.... that most have been exposed to in life. Maybe some are hardened deep seeded beliefs. I wasn't raised in a religious family or culture pushing beliefs onto me and such. I don't know what it's like to entertain beliefs like karma, god, satan, soul, spirit, reincarnation, heaven, hell, infinite consciousness....etc...etc... Here all these concepts/beliefs seem absolutely ridiculous. When the mind is clouded by these endless conceptual stories and belief systems, there isn't any room left for basic understanding. The glass needs to be empty. The conceptual mind needs to be scrubbed and pressure washed out, like a young child again. The purging of the conditioned mind if you will. Enlightenment isn't about learning what's true. It isn't a knowing either. It's the removal of falsification revealing what was already the case! -
ZGROPIUS replied to ZGROPIUS's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I want to discuss how the “magic realm” connects to Actualized.org’s teachings. How do reincarnation, magic which affects the luck, health, relationship, career and various gods relate to the theories taught there? -
James123 replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No. Death belongs to body and mind. Such as saying illusion or nothing matters. Keep watching videos, reading and twerking. You are always what you are. Reincarnation, other life etc... all belongs to body and mind. When mind is surrendered there is no future for body, just simply reacting, flowing with life within moment. -
VeganAwake replied to James123's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing is incarnated now, so nothing gets reincarnated later. Karma/incarnation/reincarnation are just concepts created by humans. There isn't a you or a me incarnated in the bodies now.......it's just the bodies! Soul, spirit, karma, god, satan, heaven, hell, reincarnation ......... These are all just human made fictional concepts. That body is not this body the same way that this body is not a cows body and so on. Humans are desperately afraid of death. They simply can't face it and be realistic. So they just created their own concepts about life and death to make themselves feel secure and warm and fuzzy inside. Then these conditioned concepts are simply passed down to their offspring who get brainwashed into believing these silly concepts. Death is only scary because it's unfamiliar and inconceivable for the body. Death is the end of that fear, it's also the end of bravery. Bodily death is the end of the human story permanently. -
You think that those three things now *found something out*? Skepticism, it's thought as something, which is doubting ideas about spirit, and certain about ideas about matter: For example, it doubts in emotions, personal cognition and existance of life, explaining that it's the energy, which moves matter in large, dead toxic waste. I hear it along these lines. Properly, skepticism is to not close the topics, but to add more and more unknowns: this is philosophy. The "results" skeptics achieved are not skepticism. For example, skeptic said "there is 1% probability of reincarnation, therefore it's not true": skepticism is *not* about believing things, which have 99% probability; if you have 10 such things, you have around 90% probability of learning truly; with 20 things which are 99% probable, your "science" is starting to approach 80% probability. We do not have "fallback cases": skeptics are very sure that "if this is false, the other one is true" - rather, where did you get this other one, and how can absense have this beyond-statistical model that if all statistics fails, absense is simpler and true? Materialist scientific approach: Many people who are "arguing" against spirituality using scientific materialist approach are annoying me a lot. They have history of debunking people, using very weird words etc. They think this is the righteous side of neutral science, which has done it's work and is now making others homeless, jobless and useless as their practical work, based on "neutral science discussions" where they were proudly repeating that nobody was attacked under this philosphical conversation. While I wasn't *so* proud for nobody being attacked in neutral conversations, rather such conversation seems easy and natural; the people who are proud of it, have many real-life consequences and claim that neutrality is now "impossible" as they found out others are wrong; Do not trust in this people; they say it's skeptical and scientific to be laymen, peasants and idiots making science claims: Materialist: must really understand the philosophical doctrine of cause and effect, matter etc., but they cannot be materialist if they do not believe in spirit, because deduction that goals do not exist is false. If spirit is not carrying goals in humans, it must be matter in humans, and then matter has goals: in body and shape of life, animals and ourselves. Materialist science "position" is rather mine - despite being spiritual, I do all math, I program, I can do physics, engineering, hard math. People who can not do all these things, who cannot freely study the simple sciences about things, manipulate and control those things properly and build with both new and old technology and means: people who start making forgiveness claims when asked to do the real math - calculate it up, build a system, show how many wheels go in - are not scientific materialists: they are non-scientific materialists, and claims that there are any "results" about discussions of spiritual and material people is wrong: we do not have this result that goal-based life forms do not exist because "it"'s material. Being skeptical does not mean you desperately need to get some "right" understanding from materialist scientists: It means you are tolerant about false claims, and people who are wrong are generally not dangerous. Instead of carrying the "neutral science" to the "right side", and fighting to make other homeless, jobless and useless as if you are under heavy threat: really skeptical people, societies etc. are very tolerant for people who got it wrong or right, not by having fighting the right view, but by questioning, doubting and verifying their everyday things, on everyday basis, not expecting some ultimate success where somebody renders somebody else false. Lately I was heavily criticized for not using scientific, neutral arguments about skeptics and atheists in my life and otherwere: We did have initial assumption that it's going to be scientific argument; people I refer have long been debunking, and making claims about ability to work based on spirituality: they say, people with spirit understanding are not able to work; only the people who draw bullshit conclusions are. I am not using bad language: the words I use do not seem worse than "debunk", and the effects they give cannot be worse than what I have seen - huge percent of back then hopeful people are not more or less outcase, because they believe people have goals and are not just floating around causes and effects, being "made of dead matter" and therefore - dead as dead.
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Breakingthewall replied to Ninja_pig's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Maybe that idea about reincarnation is true, but maybe it isn't. We don't know the structure of reality. -
Majed replied to Majed's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Majed People hate death and suicide, because they're life addicts. Also they have misconceptions about what death is. Death isn't about reincarnation or heaven or hell or nothing. Death is about a surrender of the body to infinite consciousness, which is God. The dysfunction isn't suicide, the dysfunction is your relationship to death. -
theleelajoker replied to theleelajoker's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@LastThursday I had this funny moment two years ago. I had an Ayahuasca ceremony and in the evening I was lying in my bed. I was not in the peak high but almost sober again, just the afterglow. I felt very much aware, calm state, my thoughts very clear, orderly and sharp. I was pondering this and that, some insights about me and the world that came to me during the last 24h. And then it suddenly hit me. "I have been here before". I don't mean in sense of reincarnation, but in a sense of "I had all this clarity, and insights, and epiphanies before." Most of it I wasn't new, I just forgot. Some insights I lived, others I didn't. No matter how clear they seemed to me in whatever state. And now, when I see myself or others proclaim big insights, I typically treat it with a certain scepticism until I see the action in real life. -
Forget about enlightenment for now. Just let's talk like regular human being "without being spiritual or God" (what a bullshit) 😂 After physical birth, the mind or brain becomes active, and with that brain, you appear, your personality, experience, beliefs, ideas etc... happens. You can say no, brain or mind was always here before birth, so where the fuck was your experiences, ideas, beliefs before physical birth? So, when body dies, you die, your experiences die, your god dies. The you forget or lost the mind that forgets it creates you, your experiences, beliefs and ideas etc... Then what is left ? 😊 Reincarnation, God, any experience, nihilism, non duality, no self, neo Adviata, being spiritual, solipsism all is bullshit. The mind has created you in order to play with you. 😂
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CoolDreamThanks replied to BlessedLion's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why? Why is this dream experience occurring? Do you believe that people right now are walking around in China, having their own experience? Or is life exactly like a dream? Meaning, when you leave a place, it stops existing. How do you stop the cycle of reincarnation? Can an insight or an enlightenment experience cut off the cycle of reincarnation? What role does desire play in this equation? Perhaps we are dreaming because we have desires for the world, or for the personal self? Do you believe that God created this dream? How can a loving, eternal, perfect being create something temporary, decaying, full of suffering and pain? Why is there suffering? Fundamentally, why did we or God choose to embark on this journey that is so painful? Why was the universe created? What is the fundamental purpose of form?
