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Just now, Joseph Maynor said:How about the authority of Thought?
Indeed
i don’t see thought as distinct from experience. One and the same movement of registration, recollection, which responds-projects.
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2 minutes ago, Saumaya said:Gurus and every kind of authority
Especially the authority of experience(time).
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It can definitely bring about identification if there is reaction to that collective sorrow. Then it can cause one to hold it in and begin to suffer themselves. If there intelligent action preventing conditioned action-reaction then that sensitivity can be sustained without the identification effecting you. So for me that collective sensitivity happens naturally by not reacting positively of negatively. How long has this phenomenon been the case for you @Serotoninluv?
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@Serotoninluv you’re caught in the sensitivity field as well?
Only happens when there is no identification. Identification seems to inhibit that sensitivity. Otherwise there is only the body’s particular feelings which override the collective.
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When there is insight into the whole of experience, knowledge, memory(THOUGHT), this question becomes quite obvious.
This holistic insight does not depend on the accumulation of knowledge, experience, memory,(time). Cultivation of the intellect, as in gradual progress; conceptual understanding, comprehension, and so on, being the conditioned movement of thought, have absolutely nothing to do with SEEING THE WHOLE OF THOUGHT.
The conditioned movement of time can never capture the whole of time.
The study of Science(time), has its place in practical-functional affairs, but when it comes to answering questions about that which is beyond the limitation of time, then (thought-time), implicitly sets its own limit and incoherently tries to transcend that very limit.
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I Can't Comprehend Non-Duality?
“The i”, and this response of thought, (comprehension), both being one and the same..(CONDITIONED MOVEMENT)
DUALISTIC MOVEMENT OF TIME AS “THE i”
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15 minutes ago, MiracleMan said:It's fun to think about, because my belief is firmly rooted in linear time
“My” and the belief, one and the same movement of past, present, future(TIME).
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The book of yourself ...
“The stream of consciousness”
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6 minutes ago, cetus56 said:Again this is only my opinion but I believe any experiance of the absolute is really an experiance of the screen but not the absolute itself b-c there is no direct experiance of the absolute as it is beyond all apperances.
That’s not an opinion
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10 minutes ago, cetus56 said:Well it can't really be called a "state" but someting is there.
Indeed.. as a state is implies being fixed.
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NO EXPERIENCE POSSIBLE
NO DESCRIPTION POSSIBLE
NON-REGISTRATION, NON-RECOLLECTION, NON-PROJECTION
THE ENDING OF EXPERIENCE ...HEADLESSNESS??
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4 minutes ago, Ingit said:@Jack River yep I can see... they seems to wired a lot like our nerves....
Indeed...
Thought-self/fear-psychological seeking to end that fear...
all a material process of the organism.
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8 minutes ago, robdl said:The ego/thinking projects images out of its own movement, doesn't realize it has done so, then chases those images from the perspective of a separate fragment ("I"). But the Chaser and Chased are one unitary movement. It becomes obvious how Chasing (Seeking) perpetuates this division-fragmentation.
As to be aware of such contradicting action (positive-negative movement of the self), one then doesn’t feed that divisive pattern of fragmentation, and in freedom without that limited conditioned action, intelligent action manifest on its own... By letting truth act in, and of itself.
The holistic insight of all this as one unitary movement is itself intelligent action, which is infinite action; whole-NOT FRAGMENTED/DIVISIVE.
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Just now, robdl said:The ego's pursuit of its end may just be the pursuit of a concept-abstraction-idea of an "end" projected out of the ego; a concept-abstraction-idea that sneakily only sustains the ego/self-image.
Indeed...
well said!!
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2 minutes ago, robdl said:
Right. As the "intent of seeking truth" could just be a by-product/expression (action-reaction, as you say) of our experience, conditioning, knowledge (thought-self).Yes..
i think it’s wise to be aware of all this.
By the way I made an edit on that part. Lol
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3 minutes ago, robdl said:In the time-goal-effort (pursuit) of ego-lessness, ego sneakily and happily self-sustains, self-nourishes.
Oh yes..
It both wants to end itself, and sustain its own movement simultaneously. Tricky little devil isn’t it.
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54 minutes ago, robdl said:Should we investigate-observe the very nature of wanting-seeking in and of itself?
I would say definitely.
If one goes into it deep enough they will find that this movement of reaction-action being a conditioned pattern, will definitely alter the course of the pursuit. It may indeed contribute to corruption/self deception.
good points @robdl.
Truth is not the result of action-reaction in pursuit.
There is great significance in this.
Nevertheless, @Leo Gura and @cetus56 are right, one has to be willing to step into the unknown willingly. This can also happen without the intent of seeking truth, and simply by ceasing to resist what-is, because one sees holistically it’s implications-consequences. This is also known as intelligent action. Action born of, and as truth.
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31 minutes ago, robdl said:Is it possible for the ego/mind to deceive-delude itself by wanting something associated with being "ego-less"?
I would say it is quite possible. This can also be seen as a movement of action-reaction.
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30 minutes ago, robdl said:To me, it's interesting/revealing that the mind is perpetually and mechanically wanting something, whether it be wanting something worldly (money, validation, identity, success) or wanting something metaphysical (Truth, Answers, Enlightenment); something "lower" or something "higher."
Root may very well be seeking security in the abstraction in which thought invents. A movement from what-is, to what should be.
Perhaps uncertainty seeking security in certainty. Being a movement of measure; THOUGHT, there is made the distinction between “lower” or “higher”, and then thought-self places itself somewhere within that field of reference. Being a movement of measure and due to ones preconceptions accumulated over time one then out of its bias-prejudice judges itself as lacking. A movement of comparison; I am “this”, but the program of “i” nudges me to pursue “that”. A perpetual movement from A to B.....A movement of psychological time. Ultimately a movement of division-fragmentation.
Quite important to go into indeed.
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13 minutes ago, robdl said:Hehe, one if not the best
Definitely ?
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3 minutes ago, robdl said:except the ego/self-image doesn't realize it.
Yes...
Identification implies self-sustainment or to adhere to that specific image indeed. A defense mechanism.
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5 minutes ago, cetus56 said:@robdl I know this well. When my g-f gets pissed off I make it a point to just stay chill. She then tells me what a "Passive Agressive" person I am. If there's a next time she gets mad, I'll tell her "No, I'm passively aware".
Those girlfriend experiences can be great for learning heh? ?
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52 minutes ago, Jack River said:Fosho man, becoming or not becoming is fear in movement. Then there is no passive attention. It is positive or negative movement as faceless explains. Psychological Time and this positive or negative movement is the same as the fragmented pattern.
Yes..
Can we observe this mechanical compulsion to become psychologically secure as that movement of FEAR in resistance to itself arises throughout the day?
in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Posted · Edited by Faceless
Indeed thought is sensation. Mind is part of sensation. Mind stores sensation (memory), which reacts as experience. So that memory, experience responds as thought which determines experience. Experience implies recognition of the old(experience, knowledge, memory), the old. Self feeding loop.