A Fellow Lighter

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  1. 8 minutes ago, Anahata said:

    Try to think about something that happens outside your direct experience. If you become conscious of something like that, then you're dreaming it up the same way you're imagining this screen, these words, the light and the sounds.

    Yeah, but I'm not imagining you type the words, you're doing that all on your own. Aren't you? 

    Besides, even if my direct experience is imagination, the world doesn't cease to exist simply because I shut my eyes and fell asleep. Actualized.org members would still be on this forum talking about whatever they'll be talking about. 


  2. 1 hour ago, Anahata said:

    You are imagining your human self into existence the same way You imagine everything. :x 

    This is vague. Are you saying everything is my imagination, including your actions?

    1 hour ago, SriSriJustinBieber said:

    Yes what you implied is the truer view. I would add that it makes sense if you define god as the creator principle, or pure awareness. There is then also something beyond god as defined here, which is not awareness and not creator and has no memory, no identity, no attributes whatsoever, you may picture this as some sort of black hole. Both god and that which is beyond god can be realized because they are not different from you.

    We must not be using the same semantics in talking about God. For me, God is that which rules over every beingness, there is nothing greater or beyond this. And for me, Love is God - Love is the highest power.

    I don't consider myself different or apart from that which is God. I merely use the term God  as recognition of the highest power - not as recognition of a being apart from me. I do not define that which is God, I recognise it. Love is God. Most people aren't truly awakened to this truth, they genuinely don't recognise what love is. So when I'd speak to someone about it, I'd use the word care instead of love. Then teaching becomes easier, for everybody knows what it is to care. 

    1 hour ago, SriSriJustinBieber said:

    I would add that it makes sense if you define god as the creator principle,

    Principle or Power? I don't see love to be a principle as there is nothing to compare it with. Instead, I see it as the Power of Creation rather than principle of Creation. It is the source. 

    2 hours ago, SriSriJustinBieber said:

    There is then also something beyond god as defined here, which is not awareness and not creator

    There is much of creation that is outside our awareness, my friend. Thus, we have a lot to awaken to in our journey of self-realisation. The key is love: the more we care is the more we grow aware. Only s/he who cares - learns.

    However, there is nothing that is beyond Creator's knowledge, for knowledge is existence and existence is knowledge.


  3. We share the same soul or we are one soul. Rather than saying that other minds/bodies/spirits don't exist and everyone else is being imagined? Of course, this is only in the context of soul referring to that all-encompassing essence of all existence. 

    In discussing consciousness, there is no reason why one should negate the self or other-self, and individual freewill, for the sake of reconciling the diversity of the universe with the notion of one God. Why can't God be diverse, why can't s/he divide and multiply as much as s/he wants while retaining nonduality? In this world we can clearly see everyone working to actualise their personal dreams/visions/ideals, so why can't creation be a co-creation?

    Are you not your own individual? Do you not have history, do you not have ancestry? Have you walked and struggled no journey in order to reach where you are now? So why say you have no self? And am I not also my own individual? Why should one of us be a dream for the other to be a God?

    I just don't get it.


  4. 1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

    I don't exist outside of your mind.  

    Yes, I understand that. 

    The question here is.. if I am here, in the now, and I am God dreaming up everything, then, what exactly is it that you (yes, very much in my mind as you're saying) doing? What is @Inliytened1 doing/occupied with, when I'm doing all the work - imagining things, as you say?


  5. 20 hours ago, PataFoiFoi said:

    If god is love and we are all one, how does all this  suffering in life and brutality in this world fit in? The only reason I can think of is that God wanted this reality to be cruel and tough. I know its relative but the majority of lifes on this planet have it really rough (if they dont live in a western country).

    Do you know how God is love? Have you truly awakened to that truth, or have you only rationalised it to be so? If not then let this not be your stance in questioning the seemingly dark nature of reality, for this will yield no fruit. Rather ask why is there suffering if you wish to learn why it is, in deed, here. Or, you may ask how is God love if that is your main query. 


  6. Depends on what you mean by “nothing”. What I've come to learn is that the substance of all matter is vibration. And that every state of consciousness (stable or dreamlike) is stationed by a vibration's frequency. The weaker the frequency, the more dissipative and fleeting everything in reality is; the stronger the frequency, the more steady and stable everything is.

    Now you could say that the vibration is nothing because you awoke to its infinitude - that is the multidimensional nature of vibration. Otherwise to say that beneath creation is nothing would be to negate much needed for you to awaken to. It is only no-thing because it is without finitude - vibration is infinite and whole, from every point of observance.


  7. 8 hours ago, Rokazulu said:

    I am sure there are people here who could assist me with the idea of material matters. It is definitely my weakest pursuit in life.

    There are no weak or strong pursuits in life. There is only individualisation - individuals pursuing their individuality via freewill. The pursuit of “material matter” is merely the pursuit of energy - that which enables your individualisation. So, the first thing that I will suggest here is for you to surrender that distinction you've imagined between “material matters” and spiritual matters. Are all things not energy? Does money not enable you? Surrender this idea of material matter, for it is not serving you, but feel free to keep it if it serves you.

    8 hours ago, Rokazulu said:

    have no income at all. Money seems to have always come to me by happen stance so that I have enough to buy whatever I desire, such as trips overseas, computers or good food. But for many years now, I have long desired to find a place to live by myself, alone, and have been working on many projects to see to it that it does happen some time in the future.

    May your will prove strong. ??

    8 hours ago, Rokazulu said:

    In the waking world, I am totally at peace with the situation as is, because I always internalize every situation as being spiritually useful and it has indeed allowed me to find an astonishing degree of personal happiness, bliss, and fearlessness in all situations. Yet, within the subconscious plane, I basically just lied to you.

    There are the occasional times when I dream, I am met face to face with a true inadequacy— voices that say I am "lazy", or "stupid", a strange energy of underachievement mixed with doubt, that i am doing the "right" thing. When I wake up from such intense energy, I meditate and this energy of doubt goes away. Hm, how convenient for me?

    Learn Lighter, do not simply meditate, let the energy flow. If you are doubtful then learn the source of this doubt. Lying to yourself only results in more of the chaos.

    8 hours ago, Rokazulu said:

    I strongly desire more spiritual realization and freedom to do as I please. This is the crux of my bind, that needs illuminated (and I will probably challenge you on anything you suggest so be careful!) Everyday, I happen to be able to do whatever I want with absolutely no obligations to anyone. I don't have to meet or talk with anyone unless I am absolutely certain they will raise my vibration (so to speak), which also means that I can end conversations short if I feel so inclined. So is the case, that when I work longer than an hour or two on my projects I feel my bliss starting to leave me. Thus, I never work more than my bliss allows. But, no further am I, in fulfilling that small (yet still persuasive) desire for a home of my own.

    We only ever do what we will, Lighter. Any distortion of this simply results in chaos within one's self. Why must “spiritual realisation” be different from freedom to do as you please? To realise your spiritual nature is to realise your freedom, Lighter. Spirit is like wind, it cannot be tamed or bound by any other force, lest it wills so. In this creation, one only ever is and does what s/he is willing to be and do. This is Law.

     

    8 hours ago, Rokazulu said:

    With no real focus on any particular project, so far my plan is to continue at the pace I have been going, and simply trust that eventually my work will improve or (by the grace of the universe) my work will simply start catching on. In this way, I can focus on my enlightenment as primary and burn through the belief I need more instead of the karma of desiring more.

    @Rokazulu you can be most certainly sure that you are doing, and can only ever work, your will. There is no way around it, for this is Law. Therefore I suggest you surrender the story you tell yourself about you having a primary and secondary and tertiary and etc pursuits. There is only one purpose in life, and that is enlightenment, this is not primary - it is unitary. Absolutely every being is working this will in accordance with its individuality. 

    Should you continue to imagine these distinctions then of course there will appear to be “no real focus” in anything that you do. Is it not clear enough that in your seeking to commune with individuals of a certain vibration that your life has most certainly a real objective. Your very being tells you this, but you struggle to receive the message in all the fog you create in your consciousness with your imagination. 


  8. I'm afraid you misunderstand the point of the challenge, Lighter.

    4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

    You always have problems to solve. The list of problems showing up in your life is endless. (money problems, health issues, emotional issues, political problems, accidents, tragedies, etc) 

    And this is simply because you still have a lot to be conscious of. 

     

    4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

    have come to accept that suffering is an inevitable part of life. You will always face anxiety, fear and other difficult emotions. Life most of the time won't go the way your ego desires. 

    My friend, in this life are only two moments in which you're most alive: one is a moment of mild to wild pleasure; the other is a moment of mild to wild pain. It is certainly only in these two moments when you're highly highly conscious of what it truly is to be alive. In between these two moments is what I call meditation.

    With that being said, suffering is merely one quality out of three qualities of what is called “experience”. Each is self-induced. Suffering is not inevitable, it is qualiated by the mind.

    4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

    There is no escaping this. Nor should you seek to eliminate all suffering. You can definitely improve your situation but you will never escape the inherent suffering of life.

    Then you have made Suffering your God, my friend.

     

    4 hours ago, SQAAD said:

    I think nowadays many people have this delusion that one day everything will be perfect. I think God wants Life to be challenging and hard so we can grow more from it.

    God, in the creation of life, has only ever said, “Let there be light.” Thus, the purpose of life has only ever been enlightenment.

    The challenge is not to endure any kind of suffering, nor is it to outgrow form of any kind, that is to say we may be human for as long as we wish to be human, for all is the expression of Creator, none better than the other. No, the only challenge in life is to work our will, for Work is Law. It is Law because it reflects truth - truth of who you are, who you are willing to be. One only ever is or does what s/he is ever willing to be or do. This is the gift and law of freewill.


  9. 1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

    At first there was some seconds of terror

    Those seconds of utter terror ? ??????

    1 hour ago, Javfly33 said:

    Consciousness i have some "doubts" and "questions". Are these doubts just EGO or IS It possible that i can become an even clearer awakening?

    So far the following day I've been having normal thoughts of ego But sometimes i get overwhelmed with Conscious Love that everything happens Here, and i just can only repeat "no God, its TOO BEATIFUL, It cant be this" 

    It is more than possible to become even clearer.

    Our work is that of energy-patterns, in this light, we are more likely to behave in, and perceive, the world as we most frequently tended to. The only thing is breaking this pattern in order to initiate and develop a more encompassing energy-pattern. The principle is work.

    So yes, after that moment of awakening you're most likely to get moved/carried away again by the momentum of your dominant, everyday life, waves of energy-patterns that you've built up this far in your life. This is what karma actually is.

    This is not anything like a fault on your side, it is simply truth - Work is Law. We receive only what we are willing to receive, learn only that we are willing to learn. And it is this very freedom of will that must be reflected by your work. So don't be discouraged, brother, and instead strive even further towards the Light, for it is truly beautiful. 


  10. 36 minutes ago, BipolarGrowth said:

    Let’s consider this with different wording. Is what is the closest thing to what isn’t
     

    Well, if what is is what is, what else would be closer to what isn’t other than what is? The only thing that I see as being closer to what isn’t is what isn’t, and well, what isn’t isn’t

    This has to be the most confusing thing I've ever read in my life ?

    50 minutes ago, Frosty97 said:

    Since God exists but as formlessness, can we say that God is the closest thing to non-existence?

     

    Or am I being too logical and mental masturbating?

    What does the term “God” mean to you? What do you know it referring to? If I may ask


  11. Perception is the way it is due to our human-vibration, I'd say. 

    What you described with your psychedelic experience sounds about just right. On psychedelics, or trance-states of consciousness, the ability to morph perception is immediately available. (Btw, next time try manipulating your body temperature at will and see what happens)

    On 06/03/2022 at 9:09 PM, Akash M said:

    Now, the big question is, how is this perception being constructed?

    The world/perception/consciousness, which ever term you find suitable, and everything in it all is stationed by a  frequency. This is literally what gives consciousness shape or structure. If you raise your vibrational frequency high enough to match that of human consciousness, the nature of the world is most certainly revealed to you - that it is entirely psychedelic. The only thing is, the vibration with the highest frequency shall prevail or predominate. This you discover and rediscover every time you come down from a high, because your raised vibration wasn't natural, thus not frequent enough as to withstand the frequency that shapes the world.

    All of this is possible simply because consciousness is not the brain like our sciences teach us though they are very perceptive. Consciousness is a stream, much like the streams of your television programs, it though is a stream of intelligent energy - the energy that enables you to inform or be informed by the world. So you can imagine why it would be that easy to disrupt that stream of intangible energy-patterns. It's because you're not interacting with a solid reality, you are interacting with a psychedelic reality (as your experience with shrooms have proven).

    Now I'm not sure how exactly this answers every other question ever asked but I'm curious as to see how you'll steer it to that direction. ??


  12. On 11/03/2022 at 6:28 AM, Antor8188 said:

    @Leo Gura if beauty is a matter of perception why does even a single girl not find me attractive? All the girls I have met till now don’t find me attractive. Why?

    If I may answer the more general side of your question.

    In my experience, I am always finding beauty to be more of the matter of conception than perception. I'll explain.

    You see, as a kid, I had this rather childish belief that every big girl - not slender - is an ugly girl, and that's that. In fact, this was quite a popular notion amongst my juvenile peers. We boys would judge rather harshly the beauty of the girls, including the teachers. Of course, our judgement was limited, seeing how we didn't take a lot of features into consideration - if she was big than she was ugly.

    However, quite rapidly as I matured forth in the years, this perception of beauty changed rather drastically. Quite sincerely, I now find big girls to be even more beautiful than small, slender girls. Not that thin girls aren't beautiful anymore, it's only that I prefer bigger girls over the typical, slim waist, model-like girl. In fact, as I soon came to discover, most African-Bantu men find women of a heavy-build more sexually enticing than slimmer women. Quite literally, the thicker the better. 

    Anyway, why do I mention all of the above? It is to refute the notion of apparent beauty. Because, whether we admit it or not, society has set standards of beauty which we all are to aspire towards. The only thing is, we don't actually have to aspire to them in order to be found attractive, simply because we are not merely rational beings striving towards an ideal. No, we are, in fact, more energy beings striving towards more energy. We only need to work with our vibration in order to be found attractive almost to anyone, even the same sex if you will.

    You have probably heard of the golden ratio - the number that is found in nature¿ Well it is also said to be the number of beauty, “the mathematical symmetry algorithm that underlies our perception of beauty attractiveness.” If we were more rational than energy-orientated (emotional), then our experience of falling in love would almost certainly be a mathematically determined experience. No matter how horrid our partners are behaving toward us, we would find it certainly impossible to fall out of love with them, simply because the math dictates that s/he is too beautiful to be, well, an ugly person(on the inside). In deed, love and beauty could be calculated and predictable just as the laws of nature have proven to be predictable. BUT, that is not the case , for we are energy-beings dealing with energy-patterns, not mathematical patterns the least. 

    So, in this context, I say that beauty is more of a concept than a percept. We, almost intuitively (if one has matured beyond the ideals of the media), determine who is a beautiful person, who do we find attractive. Because, believe it or not, it is their energy that we're interested in, it is the aura that they radiate that we find attractive or too low to be attractive, we are attracted to what they have to offer our emotional-spiritual livelihood. Otherwise you would put up with the most abusive relationships, the truly ugliest of the people.

    You are most certainly familiar with the saying, “Opposites attract.” This is because the truthness of this statement has rendered its meaning indispensable. It is even evident in our first nature of erotics, the male being attracted to the female and vice versa. But because we are more than physical-mechanical beings (we are energy-beings) it predominates our first nature and becomes even more evident in our masculine and feminine energies which exist in both man and woman. 

    We are transcendental beings. We seek what we believe will give us balance, we seek what we believe will offer us harmony and grace. The average man of our time will desire the so-called sexy woman, but not because she is quite mathematically perfect; he desires her because the positive energy she receives from our socio-collective ego continually reinstates her natural confidence that she is worthy of every man(being) and every thing. This boost expresses itself in the way she walks, the way she talks, and the way she generally conducts herself. The man is drawn to her because it is that exact confidence that he wishes to integrate with his energy. Ask any man what he desires and he will tell you anything along the lines of it making him more confident about himself, such as that new sports car or more hair, or whatever. But in essence he actually wants to be more confident, because confidence is more masculine energy than it is feminine energy, confidence is more resourceful in the so-called “Man's World” than it can be in the woman's world - where compassion is virtue. As a wise man once said, “Confidence is Dominance.” So of course he will be attracted to those women whose egos are being boosted by the media. I mean do they not possess the confidence that you wish to integrate with your energy-field which will render you more dominant in your pursuits of everyday life? Of course you do. And then, once you've integrated that energy by communing with your confident partner, you will set out to find a partner who radiates an even higher vibrational frequency that will enable to integrate a higher power of energy. I will stop here for now.

    The point that I've attempted to make, rather elaborately, is that beauty is whatever it is that you yearn in its expression, like a moth to the flame, or that weird looking guy in The Hobbit to the jewelry. You conceive beauty according to the energy you need. Energy, quite simply, is any vibration that enables you. Do you not wish to be enabled? You want that which is immediately higher than what you have, And SO DOES THE WOMAN. And just as you have picked up that she radiates at a higher frequency, she will pick up that your frequency is quite low in your struggles with self-confidence. She rejects you not because you are physically unappealing; she rejects you because she will have little to integrate from your energy in your lower vibes of insecurity and whatnot. You wouldn't trade 100 bucks for 1 buck, now would you? It is really that simple and certainly innocent. However, our social media has perverted this simple communing of beings into something that is rather meaningless. 

    Please note, I am not rejecting the basics of mathematical symmetry in that which is appealing to the eye. To do this would be to reject our admiration for our crystals in jewel form. No, I am merely speaking to the force of attraction betwixt ourselves. This force of attraction is energy based, not ratio based

    I hope this brings clarity. You are more than welcome to inquire further should you want more clarification.