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@tedens That varies from person to person depending on how many illusory partitions have been created between the self and existence.

@Shakazulu From the perspective of the limited self -yes.

@How to be wise Here's a good video to watch

Nah, it's all part of the process.

@Shin So true, so very true.

Besides for looking "forward" to contemplate what death may be like why not contemplate how you came to be in the first place by going back the way you came to be. Have you ever contemplated what you were before the announcement of your birth?

@Serotoninluv That's a good one too!

I'm reading all this while listening to Row, row, your boat gently down the the stream- life is but a dream. It seems to fit very well.

@Shin Here's a bedtime song to end your day with. "Life is but a Dream"

@How to be wise I see. It's fashion.

@How to be wise What medium are you naturally inclined to work with as your 'canvas' so to speak?

@The Don It's not just the fear of physical death but also the disappearance of the i am that causes fear.

Facing the fear would be excepting all things as they come without resistance or control.

@Aakash

@Aakash Nope. I'll read the pdf if there ever is one. What i do have is an origional copy of Alan Watts The Art of Contemplation a manuscript. Had that since it came out. That's a good one to have in any collection.

@Aakash Leo has an extensive book list already. It's really nice to have the book itself but maybe just the text can be found.

@Aakash Good deal! Maybe it's published in the UK?

See I don't like to do that. I'll back check by watching the vid. after reading the book that way I'm hearing the message through my own heart first. $35.00 US through Amazon.com

@Aakash I just skimmed over the video. Does he read through the whole book? I want to read it first before watching the video so I don't have any preconcieved ideas.

@Aakash I could feel that. When it's right it's right - beyond a thought.

@Aakash Did one better and ordered the book. Thanks

@Serotoninluv It's been a long time since I heard that song. It was probably on 45 record.

no matter what you think - rest assure that's not it.

@Aakash There's a lot to be said for throwing away. I once knew what God was but it was thrown away. I once knew what enlightenment was but it was thrown away. I once knew who I was but I was thrown away.

@VictorB02 Be careful that's not a trap because divine self can sometimes be just an extention of the ego. To actually become one with the divine self (being) there would be no going back to the illusion of the ego again. Just for an example, lets say one day your parents came to you and told you that you were adopted. How could you ever believe again that they were your true biological parents? It would totally change the way you define yourself.