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@Rishabh R And that is what everyone is saying. Do you even fathom the depth of what the fuck I am saying. The reason you calculate something in your head one way over something is because you're operating with the model printed to your head from school. The same way it's obnoxiously obvious that the perspective you're speaking of these things comes from the same place others have done it before. This is the type of situation where something is so written on your forehead that the only person that can't see it is you. Still again as I've said, I might be wrong, so be free to enlighten me with new perspective that hasn't been status quo before. Tell one.

@Rishabh R The problem with books and info in general is that it hierarchically flows downwards. Judging from the topics it is "same" that what everyone else is teaching. Also "positivism" isn't even the most powerful model. Try harder on the next book to really get insights from your own investigation rather than just echo chambering the status quo. If you think my criticism isn't valid then tell me something that I already didn't know.

@NoSelfSelf I get what you're saying. Basically by contructing your own worldview and bending reality intellectually you can gain edge. What I use often is even though I know it would've been more optimal if I started hobby X when I was 5 year old I still believe I beat people, because I just am so awesome and I trust to myself. In that sense I don't need to "lie" to myself, but I just take the angle that gives me best change for knockout punch. Regardless if people think that my angle sucks it doesn't dismiss that it works for what I am using it for.

@Florian Here's a little twist into your thinking that could add dimension into it. Before delving deeper into that I gotta say that your approach is valid and contemplating structural values that give meaning for sub values is important. The problem comes after thinking about these things long enough that you reach a point where it is hard to make any progress at all, because you've just hit the end of spiritual inquiry that reveals that everything just is, period. Understanding is not solely enough; you need to partner it with creating. Understanding is bringing things together and decreasing noice for the sake of reaching clarity. Creation aspect aims to build character and lifestyle that is UNIQUE for you. Of course both understanding and creating work as a team together to enhace the power of each others. What I've managed to realize is that the blindspot of most spiritual people is that they don't focus enough or at all for creation aspect, but they just dream of reaching new stages of emptiness. IMO the point of understanding should be to CREATE from it and not just escape the whole game and smile like an idiot. Feel free to comment on this to continue the contemplation with me. -joNi-

@Elton Then you speak about this problem for someone who has the power needed and explain that this thing restricts your work and also that it ruins the business's money making ability. Your Boss understands if he isn't complete moron.

@Elton People who don't respect you, don't respect working under you, you fire 'em. Know what you do and tell them that if they want to be in your ship they support you or they're out. Being in friend position doesn't give you permissions to jump into your eyes. You set higher standards for people who are closer to you.

@Jannes Does ice cream taste good?

Hello my fellow fighters, let's fucking go! I made this thread only for so everyone could post something productive they did in daily basis and therefore we could build massive group energy to inspire each others to take action in practical level and stop bullshitting ourselves. It doesn't matter if what you post is about work, studying, workout, making awesome apple cake or listening to audiobook. Just drop everything here that you have on your mind and we are ready to conquer the world. Aim to constantly drop something insightful here so this thread will skyrocket. You get that which you put in, so start your work TODAY. With the power and love -joNi-

Simply because he gives value what people on this forum will never understand.

@Someone here I would advice to care only about things that you need in order to build the life you are currently visualizing for yourself. Everthing else is pretty much waste of time if you don't know how to use them for your benefit. Stop asking reasons for doing X things from people, but discover for yourself if it is useful or not.

@meow_meow First thing, never take molly in your life again.

@Buck Edwards Here's the point imo. When you learn to find quality information and analyze it carefully there's no need to do it fast.

@OBEler I don't see anyone giving this type of perspective what I think is the most useful. The point is that you've gotta try things for youself what works and what doesn't. Of course being cautious is the key here so advance carefully forward. Try to understand that whole society is gaslighting your ass 24/7 and is keeping your creativity low. Just remember that whatever you do and whatever happens is your own responsibility in the end. Who cares if you lose some minimal amout of money while tripping. General rule in life is that you shouldn't gamble money you ain't ready losing. Actualized.org isn't your Motherfucking DAD and MOM to ask for answers, but just friend group of people trying to advance in life. That's that. Do what seems right for you, see results and correct your behaviour. Be your own captain, Amen Jesus.

@Jannes The point is that you don't need constant grinding when honestly you don't want something. If part of you doesn't want to watch youtube and part of you does it means internal crisis and you need to fix that problem first. Ask from yourself why you want to watch youtube instead of doing something else in the first place. What is the thing you're lacking in life outside of watching youtube videos that you're addicted and can't get elsewhere. It is called "personal" development for a reason and not "life optimization". Something in you needs to change in order to call it progress. Mere content change in life doesn't check that box.

@Jannes You shouldn't need to handcuff yourself not to take heroin. Find how to really control your mind instead of needing some tricks. The truth is that what you do may work, but doesn't permanently help with anything nor it won't grow you.

What all of you spiritual people fail to realize is that doing things, living best life for yourself and making it best exactly precisely for you is NOT a bad thing. The only problem occurs if you don't act out of love in various scenarios. That's the only meter of how well you're living your life is how much love you feel inside. You guys need to realize you're broken inside and you need to love yourself more and not just cope by feeling gimplses of love by bending backwards on people and calling yourself a hero. You ain't hero. Just pure non standard simp trying to feel love by all means possible. It is true though that when person starts to live life based on love instead of survival and pity pleasures (so called egoic stuff) he'll have so much fuller life experience full of beauty, love and intelligence. You need to start contemplating by yourself what you want out of your life instead of listening all types of teachers and copying their approach and acting like you're so fantastic because you can parrot sentences that young child could even do. The answer waiting for most of you is deep realization that you'll always be "selfish" whatever that means for your own purposes. There's nothing wrong with that. Who the fuck told you that it is wrong to love yourself so much that you give your whole life experience in totality for yourself. That's the only way anything makes any sense. Wake the FUCK UP!

@An young being Make new discord account with random name and picture and hop on it. How anyone could know anything and I keep everything said between us, because one of my values is keeping promises.

@An young being You didn't get what I said. DM me your whatsapp, discord or skype and we can hop on a voice and I can explain it to you.

@An young being But you have to question why you like doing it in the first place. It most of the times is because it makes you feel good about yourself, but the reality is that you should feel good about yourself regardless if you help others or not. Helping is an another addiction, I know it, because I've been there and I loved it. Nowadays I try to aim helping only people very close to me to build stronger connection with them and not just for pity pleasure. When one is addicted to helping he might start putting himself in second in things and that'll cause problems later on. Hopefully you see what I try to say, because it'd save so much time of yours.

@An young being The way you said it in beginning was weird and even I didn't get what you meant. If being brutally honest to people was what you meant then you're correct and that's the way to go. Build up people by always being more and more honest with them until they gotta face the truth. Practice your communication btw, because the way you did it in start was so bad basically everyone got your message wrong. At the same time you should realize there is no point helping anyone realize anything, because it's your dream and life and there's nothing else. Helping is just you coping thinking that you're good person, but why you need to feel being lie a good person. Think about that. -joNi-

The sunday is coming and my spiritual moods are upping so maybe you could release another banger video and call it a day, right my champ? Don't know if you already have a video idea for this specific time, but something related to spirituality for a long time could be fun to keep Leo train going and all fellow seekers on a right track. Thanks for an advance. -joNi-

2 months have passed from that post and still nothing ?

WELCOME TO CONTEMPLATION SERVER! <3 The thread is not meant to be about me, but I'll share a story of why I made this thread in the first place to make some sense to it. My whole life purpose IS to gather as expansive intellectual knowledge of different aspects of reality and human life as possible. That being said the scope here is massive and I really want unique content that you've REALLY thought for yourself. I need more inspiration, because I have already thought of so many different things and I've reached some type of wall for 10th time or something in my life. Also as an another motivator for starting this communication between Actualized.org members is because it seems that the content here lately hasn't been evolving and I see higher potentiality for us. So to the point. We're basically trying to make team contemplation here. There's 2 type of ways to engage with the thread. 1. Contemplate something new for 30min - 1 hour or whatever you need to write something unique. a) Take out paper and pen. b) Make correct mood for contemplation with being alone and maybe by listening to some relaxing playlist. c) If you have and want you could take a little amount of psychedelics to get thoughts flying and creativity to shine. d) Write a word or thought on paper that you want to contemplate and set a timer and sit for the whole time. e) Post DEM results here. 2. Analyze someone's contemplation and push it further with new points and use the same method as in step (1.) Aim to surprise me and other actualizers and try to make every post pure, valuable and deep. Here is an example of a type of post I am looking for. (It's my own contemplation that I've done in the past) How to think Part 1 - If there is perspective outside of yours then you're wrong - Try to find how you're wrong to get thinking process to start - Define different words and write essays of them - Have hard discussions with people that stimulates your mind - Combine differnet worldviews - Understand that there's always some intension and that shapes thinking radically - Argue everything for yourself and don't take information blindly in - Learn to think in structures - Make thinking your hobby so it doesn't feel like work - You'll face lot of things that sound absurd, but learn that ABSURD =/= WRONG - Watch out for conflicts in your logic - Upgrade your patience so you can sit long enough front of a topic to find juicy perspectives to it - Thinking is like scanning your mind and topics to find irrationality to fix - Fuels of thinking are curiosity, information and want to grow as a person - In order to really upgrade thinking one has to be ready to change themself - Make it as enjoyable as possible to really have motivation to do it - Stop judging other perspectives, because it blocks you from integrating it to be part of larger worldview of yours. I hope this will not be a problem in this thread, but if there's extremely low quality of a post that doesn't add anything or somehow I don't like I'll ask a moderator to delete it, because as I said already, I am aiming to build something SPECTACULARLY MAGNIFICENT and I want it to go to direction that I saw in my vision. With love your friend <3 -joNi-

@HMD Extremely good work my friend . Contemplation basically is your training tool which teaches you think step by step. And very good point about not getting stuck thinking only things that are related to your life, but opening your contemplation to as wide as possible.

What it means to be spiritual? - Becoming more conscious overall - Aiming to turn into a mature person - Opening your mind, body and feelings - Wanting to be healthy in all domains of your life - Caring more about connections of any kind - Developing deep love for everything - Becoming more intentional - Valuing learning in itself - Wanting to have more experiences in life - Deep introspection - Appreciating every moment as something special - Contemplating own purpose and field of mastery - Letting go of past trauma - Finding personal meaning for own life - Becoming more creative and playful in your approach to life - Arriving to place of no worries - Having reasonable balance in things - Cultivating happiness into your life - Making all above part of your lifestyle