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  1. 19 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    From what I understand there are many Russians living in Eastern Ukraine and there has been fighting in that region between them and Ukrainian nationalists. Which is why Putin wanted to annex those regions. Of course Putin also wants to annex them for other reasons such as natural resources and to get a land bridge to Crimea.

    That is not true. The fighting that started there in 2014 was because of russia.

    Russia wanted to de-stabilize Ukraine after Maidan since it lost it’s influence in Ukraine when the pro-russian president was overthrown. Russia wanted to halt Ukraine’s integration with European Union, and so it started the conflict in the eastern Ukraine. There were lots of soldiers captured there with russian passports, and the ammunition and military equipment was coming from russia.


  2. @Hello from Russia

    Let’s first establish this, if it wasn’t for russia invading in 2014, there would be no “nazis” and no Azov battalion.

    Russia started the conflict in 2014, so it could then use it as a pre-tense to:

    1. Annex Crimea

    2. Start a full blown war a few years later

    Thats just a game russia played. De-stabilized the east of Ukraine, then used it to justify the full blown war.

    Just like any other country, Ukraine has a tiny monitory (0.0001-2%) of, like I mentioned, rapists, nazis, psychopaths, drug addicts, etc. Knowing that majority of russian population is easily brainwashed and unable of nuanced complex analysis , like the one in my prior sentence, russia used a few of such extremely rare examples, and blew it out of proportion.

    As a matter of fact, if I had nothing else to do with my life, I could google pictures of russian nazis, and find a ton of them too, like the one below. 

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    So why is there such a huge problem with anti-semitism in russia?


  3. 3 hours ago, Something Funny said:

    You probably don't  even have any concrete definition of what a neo-nazi is in your mind. Is a person who committed a war crime and speak Ukrainian a neo-nazi? Is a person who voted for Poroshenko a neo-nazi? Is a person who says that we shouldn't teach Russian language in school a neo-nazi? Etc. 

    ….

    Most of those people you call nazis are just individuals traumatized by centuries of Russian oppression. A fun fact is that most of them are "nazi" only towards Russia. They don't exhibit other features of naziism like racism, homophobia, eugenics, etc. They also don't antagonize progressive west, and democratic values like true Russian nazis do.


  4. 3 hours ago, Something Funny said:

    Especially since the biggest irony is that whatever nazis there are in Ukraine right now, were unheard of before 2014. And even if they existed, they existed as marginalised groups with zero social and political power.

    And whaetever war crimes were committed in Donbass, they would have never happened if it wasn't for Russia.

    But oh surprise, if you attack people and hurt them, and open centuries old national wounds, they will inevitably become more hateful and radicalize back at you. WHAT A SURPRISE.

    @Hello from Russia


  5. 2 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regimen

    Even US banned the funding of this battalion, and it was before 2014

    Read chapter 4 about Human Rights Violations and chapter 5 about Neo Naziism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regiment#Human_rights_violations

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Regiment#Neo-Nazism

    And it is English wikipedia btw. If you read it in Russian, it's way worse 

     

    “Neo-Nazism comprises the post–World War IImilitant, social, and political movements that seek to revive and reinstate Nazi ideology. Neo-Nazis employ their ideology to promote hatred and white supremacy, attack racial and ethnic minorities (which include antisemitism and Islamophobia), and in some cases to create a fascist state.[1][2]”

    I think @Something Funny explained brilliantly that Ukrainian “nazis” do not apply to this description. 


  6. 3 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    Sure, but then it means they legitemately travelled across from the west to east to fight with pro-Russian population here, which kinda contradicts your argument as well

    They were not formed to fight “russian population”, they were formed to fight russia that invaded in 2014.

    There was no issues in the eastern part of Ukraine prior to 2014.


  7. 8 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    I don't mean to be offensive at all, but so called "Nazis" are actually situated pretty close to Donbass region if we are to believe the story. 

    They say the most famous nazi battalion is Azov - which is named for its proximity to Azov Sea, which is on the east of Ukraine. And their base is believe to be in Mariopol, which is in the east as well and very close to Donbass.

    So they didn't really need to travel anywhere, they were very close

    It was formed in 2014… after russia first invaded the eastern part of Ukraine, to fight russia..


  8. 7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    There is a mix of Russians and Ukrainians living in that region, so things are not so clear cut.

    Of course there is manipulation by Russia. But also it is the case that many Russians live there. It's a classic dispute over ethnic boundaries with both sides having their own justifications for where the lines should be draw.

    Is Crimea Russian or Ukrainian? Who the fuck is to say?

    The “nazis” live in the western Ukraine. Unless you are saying that for some reason the “nazis” from western Ukraine travelled all the way to the east of Ukraine to abuse the russian speaking population there… what you’re saying just doesn’t make sense whatsoever. 

    Is Alaska American? Who’s to say?

    Ukraine has been investing in the infrastructure in Crimea, developing its economy, etc., for years. You can’t just come and chop a peace of land away because you desire to do so..


  9. 1 minute ago, KH2 said:

    @Hello from Russia These responses to you made me realize, how important it is to know how to do proper epistomology, and having a properly non-biased mind. When Russians first attacked, my responses to this situation used to be the same. Since I'm living in a country right next to Ukraine, I was fearfull of what's gonna happen. But, this is all just emotional thinking, and fear - the way fear skews the human thinking, it's incredible. It's almost involuntary

    Sorry, but how exactly pointing out the extreme ridiculousness of “Ukrainians are Nazis” propaganda an example of “emotional thinking”? 

     


  10. 1 minute ago, Hello from Russia said:

    Ahh, that explains a lot. Go watch all videos on Leo's channel, then we'll talk

    All videos on Leo’s channel? I’ve outgrown Leo years ago, I started watching him in 2014 lol ? 

    But anyways, you sound very toxic, you don’t even make any arguments, just talk about how unbiased and meta you are and attack people without having a clue of their background. I am going to assume you’re a little child and move on. 


  11. 25 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    it's just intellectualy dishonest to call me a pro-russian, lol. I've personally done a pretty good holistic analysis of a situation, so I think I have a rather integrative overview on it all. All I'm doing is just pointing at your misunderstandings of a situation and some missing pieces of the whole picture. Which is what Leo tries to do in this topic too. This forum obviously has a very western leaning (and I guess I lean western as well), so it's unsurprising to see that you guys don't really bother that much to study non-western POV and understand it, but still

    Leo understands very little of what’s going on in this war and he himself spits out a lot of russian propaganda claiming that he is just trying to be unbiased.
     

    I mean… He recommended here a few months ago to watch Oliver Stone’s documentary on Putin. Oliver Stone who is a long time Putin’s buddy… If that doesn’t tell you how clueless Leo is, idk what else will… 


  12. 7 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    it's just intellectualy dishonest to call me a pro-russian, lol. I've personally done a pretty good holistic analysis of a situation, so I think I have a rather integrative overview on it all. All I'm doing is just pointing at your misunderstandings of a situation and some missing pieces of the whole picture. Which is what Leo tries to do in this topic too. This forum obviously has a very western leaning (and I guess I lean western as well), so it's unsurprising to see that you guys don't really bother that much to study non-western POV and understand it, but still

    And I have personally noticed that even many Russian “liberals”, sadly, still repeat and buy into many of the russian lies and propaganda. They are still better than the average russian though, but I was shocked at some of the things they say.  
     

    Also, just because you keep saying and labelling yourself as “objective”, doesn’t mean you are.


  13. 6 minutes ago, Hello from Russia said:

    what was going on in Ukraine region in the last 30 years, 300 years historical context and its political climate now and then

    Lol, I definitely know the history of Ukraine better than you do. Especially because the way history is/was taught in Russia, and even in Ukraine during the Soviet Union, was highly distorted and untrue. 

     


  14. 16 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

    In my biased Ukrainian opinion, most of those people you call nazis are just individuals traumatized by centuries of Russian oppression. A fun fact is that most of them are "nazi" only towards Russia. They don't exhibit other features of naziism like racism, homophobia, eugenics, etc. They also don't antagonize progressive west, and democratic values like true Russian nazis do.

    This is actually a major point that these people don’t understand. Which makes them using the term “nazis” so much more laughable.

    That is why I keep saying, you have to be next level kind of stupid to buy into the “Ukrainians are nazis” propaganda. 


  15. 31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    I'm sure there were war crimes committed in that region by both sides. It's basically Russian vs Ukrainian ultra-nationalists fighting against each other for control over that land.

    Atrocities are just gonna be part of any fighting that happens in that region. I wouldn't blame any one side over that. We clearly see Russian troops committing all sorts of atrocities in this war. They are just not very professional or well-managed military forces. They are mostly just winging things and so atrocities result.

    Ukrainian army has a noble cause though. After you’ve watched your cities destroyed, your women and children being raped, tortured and murdered, you don’t need to be “far right” to develop strong hate for russhists.

    Every morning (this was today) you see the news of russian missiles hitting multiple civilian objects and apartment buildings. You want to protect those poor innocent people dying every day.

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  16. 1 hour ago, Hello from Russia said:

    Maybe it is like 5-10% of Ukraine population or something similar

    Lol, russian propaganda much? Ukraine’s far right party only got 2% of the votes in the most recent election. That is less than most European countries.


    Generally, russia has far more nazis percentage-wise than Ukraine ever will. 

    It is obvious though, that a country of 44 million will have nazis, rapists, murderers, thieves, pedophiles, drug addicts, etc. 

    I truly think that particular part of russian propaganda - “Ukrainians are nazis” is aimed at the most stupid russians out there - the alcoholic wife-beater type, or the uneducated owns a toilet outdoor type. At least when they speak about NATO preparing to attack them, it can be somewhat believable..


  17. Today, after the gym, I was really hungry, since I haven’t eaten since breakfast. On my way home from the gym, I picked up 14 honey-garlic chicken wings from a restaurant nearby, I didn’t want to cook since I’ve been feeling sick and feverish. I ate them all in one sitting, since I was super hungry. Then I started feeling bad, my mouth was burnt from all the sugar.

    I looked up the ingredients on the website of the restaurant, and it said one chicken wing had 5 grams of sugar! Sugar was the first ingredient, honey was like 6-8th… 

    I feel horrible… My mouth still has a taste of sugar in it.. what should I do? I’ve had 70 grams of sugar in total! 

    I’ve read that drinking lots of water should help. I’ve already had 1L of water. Is there anything else to do? I want to get that garbage out of my body somehow! ?


  18. 1 hour ago, puporing said:

    Healing goes beyond trauma and is never "complete" because there's other people's traumas around you that will affect you as well. But that's a less personal point.

    And it's untrue that you have to be well healed to heal others. You can be with someone at a similar level of healing and go through it together. That's more balanced. Otherwise it becomes a parent-child like relationship when the gap is large. 

    Obviously there are degrees of healing, but there is also a huge difference between someone who has trauma and doesn’t realize it, and someone who realized it and has began healing it. Most of the people are in denial about their trauma, it’s actually a huge leap to get them to even admit they have issues, especially when things are going their way. Kind of like with narcissists, the biggest issue with them is that they don’t seek treatment - they are usually successful in their careers and have a bunch of codependent flying monkeys bowing around them - they don’t think there is anything wrong with them. 

    Also it’s kinda like in AA programs, AA participants are encouraged to be friends with each other and help each other, but they can’t date for 2 years (or whatever the number is), because dating is different than friendships, and two broken people in romantic relationships  where intense feelings are involved usually ends up creating a complete shit show. So, it depends on where on the healing journey you are - if you feel you’re more or less stable, you should start dipping your toe in the dating pond again, otherwise you’ll never learn what you like/dislike.


  19. 9 minutes ago, puporing said:

    @Scholar Yes I think that when someone has enough what you might call "baseline character", but obviously has some unprocessed pain/trauma that is causing them to behave in certain dysfunctional/unloving ways, there is room there for healing in the relationship and if yourself can recognize that it's not "their essential being" but a wounded energy that wants to lash out. It takes great patience and sometimes you may be tempted to give up. It's always nice to hear there are people out there who would stick around and guide the other person towards more love and healing. 

    This type of advice though, is the worst advice possible to give to this girl right now. I was this girl, and if someone told me that back then, all I would hear is “it’s ok to be around toxic people” and “you should give everyone a chance” - when this is the last thing someone in her situation should do.

    Its the concept of “I’m ok, you’re ok”

    There are 4 types of relationship dynamics:

    1. I am ok, you’re ok

    2. I am ok, you’re not ok

    3. I am not ok, you’re ok

    4. I am not ok, you’re not ok

    The fourth one is what this girl has. She should be aiming for 3 first. Then she can go to 1. Then when she’s healed, she can do 2.

    This girl has no idea what healthy relationships are. To have a chance at healing she needs to be around healthy people to finally see what healthy looks like.


  20. 28 minutes ago, Scholar said:

    I'm not trying to be passive aggressive at all, just point out what I am certain of. Maybe I should not be as certain of it as I am, but your responses only nudge me further into that direction. I do have a tendency to mirror people's energy, so there is probably something you can extract about yourself from my interactions with you.

    Yea I don’t buy it.


  21. 10 minutes ago, Scholar said:

    Yes, what you propose is a bad idea. But that is not what I am proposing. And it actually is possible to influence others in tremendous ways, if one is capable of radiating genuine love. The way most people attempt to fix others has nothing to do with love. Most people are too stuck in their own suffering to help anyone. Like you for example, I can sense fear and suffering in you, that would makes you blind and ignorant to the suffering of others. Your mind does not allow you to be open-hearted, because it has to fear to protect itself from the suffering of this world.

    And of course, wisdom is a requirement here, too. The idea of fixing someone is an idea stemming from the resistance towards what is. That is not Love.

    I am telling you not to tell someone who has deep relationship issues:

    "I was able to heave them out of the depths of hell because I was able to interact with them in a mature way"

    This person is years away from being:

    "someone who can bring out the potential in people"

    She needs to focus on herself and leave any person who has any small hints of toxicity in them behind. 

    10 minutes ago, Scholar said:

    Like you for example, I can sense fear and suffering in you, that would makes you blind and ignorant to the suffering of others. Your mind does not allow you to be open-hearted, because it has to fear to protect itself from the suffering of this world.

    Also, judging on your personal attacks and passive aggression on someone you know nothing about, I truly doubt you actually walk the walk. Your ego is triggered because I challenged your opinion, so you needed to lash out on me.