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I actually don't know anything about her other than that short video I just watched, and the post. She seems like a pretty mature soul though.

Well she has it good in life and is using it in a pretty good way. She's trying to be nice and help people. It is harder when you have it rough(usually), and maybe she does have it easy, I don't know. It's good that she is using this situation in a nice way like that instead of wasting it.

Even if you are not a sports fan, you might find this interesting. I have casually watched sports from time to time, but have never seen a level of presence at a sporting event like this. It was the Chiefs vs Bills game Sunday. The overall level of presence was extremely high amongst all the players and fans, but the biggest contributor by far seemed to be the Bills quarterback Josh Allen. Right before the level of presence began to skyrocket, the camera shows Josh walking across the field and you can see his eyes, the state he seems to be in is Like some kind of warrior athlete nirvana type thing, I can't explain it. You can tell it's really deep, it's like he might die and he's ok with it. (unfortunately I think that particular moment happened right before this video starts.) I think his state might have been somewhat transmitted(it was shown on the screen) to everyone there. From that point all the players are in a far deeper state than Ive ever seen them in. Now I know the stakes were high, and that was part of it, but this was different. It was like all the players went into a warrior poet state of mind, and Josh Allen was so deep in that state he was elevating everyone else, even the other team. I am Chiefs fan, but after today I think Allen might be my favorite player. If you are not a sports fan, but a fan of states of consciousness, you might still find this interesting. I can't post video, but it was Bills vs Chiefs game on sunday, you can watch the last 30 minutes on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcIx1_U1H-A&ab_channel=dolomuse This person seems to be a musical genius

He has a really good mental understanding of something that can happen (seeing the illusion of self), that leads to spiritual experience. I don't know if he has had it in a real enough way yet, although he does talk about engaging in practices to see it in a real enough way. He is also introducing it to communities of people who will not listen to him if he does not open the door to it in a logical scientific way. The best way to introduce a scientific person to spirituality is to use their own system of logic to prove that there isn't really a self, at least not in the way we think. You can then also use logic to point out that certain insights and understanding may come to a mind being used in a different and less commonly used way. that to assume that to not be possible would just be an assumpion. that you're mind is in a certain state when thinking with words, and there may be understandings that come when your mind is in a different state that does not involve words. But to get people to go past all that he has to at least greet them with concepts.

A face is something I can't feel when I'm with you.

cool stuff

Sorry I was gone for a day and missed this, thanks Whatever

"So in a nutshell, inner peace that is an outcome of isolating oneself from difficulty I dont see as virtuous. Inner peace shared and received thru interaction with others is realer to me." I agree with that, it is more challenging but I feel it will be worth it. I like being around people but to feel connected and at one with other people is very scary to me.

I think so to and I appreciate it

One more thing... I had a time when I didn't have to do anything but walk around and zen out, and I was, balls deep in zen, for a few years. I mean I was gone, from this planet, pretty much, my mind was like the sky. I was so at peace and equanimous and everything, then guess what? I had to do stuff, work, and think at work, and react, and focus, and sort of half focus, etc. And nobody, at work, cared about my state, there were no policies in place to protect my state, it wasn't on any ones radar, I couldn't ask for help with it. So guess, what, gradually, and painfully, I got dragged out of zen and into... human activity. Now, after first hand studying of how all of this works within my own mind... I would be amazed to find any human that could maintain his zen through all of that, or in pretty much any job. And also, it was extremely painful, even physically, within my whole nervous system. There was a very real sense I was leaving my natural and graceful way of being in order to maintain my physical survival. The zen way felt natural, this way, doesn't sit right with my soul, so to speak. But I do it anyway, still to this day, I can't just bail on my family. And that is probably how it is for a lot of people. And please understand I am using the word zen for lack of a better word and not as the literal exact definition of zen. I don't think every human is meant for the same role. I actually think some people are supposed to live like that, with help from others, because it does yield benefits to everyone, to have those peaceful frequency holders. But that is not a role valued by our society right now. The spiritual lessons that come after that are even stronger than the ones before, but it is very hard and painful.

How is inner peace not a goal in spirituality with any depth? We are just doing things for their form in physical reality? Why do you care about how anything is at all, it's because of the one experiencing life, and what their existence is like. So you don't want peace for you and them, is there something else you want? I'm not denying the suffering humans experience, I'm saying the alleviation of that is what I care about. Helping people is great but what is the thing you want for them ultimately? I assume it goes beyond just physical survival. I Agree with you that it is pretty easy to be detached and spiritual when you don't have to work or do anything. For most of us, almost every persons perspective is something we have very little real understanding of, we think we do, but there are so many little details there that we don't really know. Every kind of person from every walk of life in every job, we know all about our own problems in great detail, but they experience types of pain's and struggles we probably haven't considered. And unless we had the same experience we won't intimately know their type of suffering, we aren't likely to appreciate it. All the perspectives are true, we feel that way because of the life we have had, it was our experience, only we know that particular flavor of life that was had. If you think you don't understand someone else, you would if you were them.

He has somewhat of a point. There is a big difference between having equanimity with things you only observe or think about, and having equanimity with things that are actually happening in your life, all around you. It is also true, however, most people that I have met, have no interest in being still or inwardly attentive. If given any amount of free time, they wouldn't use any of it for spiritual practices in earnest. Those who have the desire and also the privileg are lucky in a way. Most humans are required to use their mind, most of the day, in ways that are not expansive , blissful, or beautiful, in order to make a living. I, like you, can imagine them doing it while being in a state of grace, but I'm just imaging it, I'm not actually in the experience. In the actual experience, it's way more difficult. It is true that, for the most part, very few people care at all about inner peace. There are people that do, and their life makes very challenging to dedicate the time to exploring that part of themselves.

What ever you do is gonna be God's will

Boredom or the ability to be bored is a feature of any mind that has that feature. Theres no reason to assume every experience of life in existence has that feature, boredom is mostly a human thing.

That was really cool

Considering the effect just 1 turquoise has on it's surroundings, I think it would be a constant experience of what we now consider overwhelming beauty. We underestimate how much we base our idea about what is possible on what things are like right now. The experience of human life on this planet can be something not even comparable to how it is right now. It goes way past technology or governments. When we try to imagine what things could be like, its usually differently decorated version of the same thing. Even basic modes of human activity that we take as a given wouldn't even happen anymore. Entire domains of human life would be so healed it would hard to even remember there ever being a problem. We would be going beyond what we now consider our highest values. It's nothing like being a turquoise in an orangish world. Even being a turquoise in an orange world, you are nothing like how you would be in a turquoise world. Your behaviors thoughts and everything still sort of falls in line with the rest of human life to some extent. You still end up thinking about things you would never think about in a more evolved world. You don't think about things you would think about in a more evolved world. The effect of the state of 7 billion turquoise would be something very hard to imagine. It might be sort of heavenly compared to what we are used to.

I just found out about the Metaverse. I thought this post might be good to bring it up in, I am curious what everone's thoughts on it are. It seems like someone could get so immersed in it that realizing their existence outside of their technological overlay reality would be like a kind of enlightenment. Like I can imagine generations of people immersed in these lives so overlayed with technology that sages will tell them about the real world of physical existence. Which they would then have to become awakened to, in order to get to the level of awakeness we take for granted. It could be like going more into sleep, like a dream in a dream. I admit I know very little and it could be very cool but I see this as a real possibility.

Reality being one, it is one infinite movement, there is no will but 1 universal will, as I see it, but even that is just a happening. Any experiencing of suffering taken place will not be the fault of anyone. The one being selfish had no control over whether they were selfish or not. So this conscious experience of suffering was in no way created by the experiencer of the suffering. The imaginary individual who suffers is a real experience happening, but it just happened, through no fault of anyone. My question is, why does this suffering need to happen at all, I am so baffled by this.

but if reality is infinite, shouldn't there be an infinite amount of existence in which selfishness is rewarded. And being infinite isn't there infinite place in reality for law of attraction to not exist in. Shouldn't there be infinite number of places where everything we work so hard for automatically is and the lessons we have learned aren't needed. If reality is infinite aren't all of these things just slightly more universal than our own local customs.

Ya, like a river or volcano or whatever. Thoughts seem really close to you so it seems like you're doing it. No one is really doing it. The "you" stuff is also just happening, seems even closer, but still you aren't controlling or doing it. I don't think there's a you, I mean, I do think that, but I know I'm wrong

Thanks

While looking at cute elderly dogs being loved by their owners on a reddit, this kind of hit me. Life has really always wanted to be nice to itself, and has been working toward this time when it can now start to happen on this planet. When People will take care of any kind of living thing no matter what survival challenge it has, to the best of their ability. I understand that ultimately, life always loves itself, no matter how mean something seems to be, but now, it has moved toward happiness of living beings, which it always wanted.

This is where I got stuck. Had a great deal of trouble putting it into words until Leo's last video, and forgive me if he covers it but I am only partway through and want to get this out before I forget. This comes in the form of bias against people coming up and talking to you in ways that distract you or lower your state of consciousness. Bias against people talking about time, or anything time related. Bias against any influence which you feel will have an obstructive/detrimental effect on your spiritual deepening in a sort of automatic subconscious way that you can't just prevent by some active process. Bias against activities that prevent you from being able to be a passive observer. Feeling that there is no free will, and everything is being caused by everything else, bias against influences that will have an effect on surroundings of this experience of life{you}, that will result in an experience which in no way has any depth or real profound consiousness. Bias against things that will lower your state of consciousness. This seems like the tricky part. I got so lost in this that I have not recovered from it years later.