Gesundheit

Member
  • Content count

    3,354
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by Gesundheit


  1. 3 hours ago, BipolarGrowth said:

    Consciousness itself, at the “deepest” level, is always alone. It simply cannot experience anything but itself. This doesn’t mean that others aren’t conscious necessarily. It just means that if you had a direct experience of “another” consciousness it would still just be one field of consciousness/experience which is what you are.

    The mistake here is defining ultimate reality through consciousness as if consciousness is ultimate reality. It simply is not. Reality is not infinite consciousness. Reality is an infinite nothingness that is capable of imagining consciousness. Consciousness is just a tiny portion of infinity. Consciousness is actually not very different from thought, it's just a different manifestation/form of thoughts. Are you conscious of thoughts? Or are you thinking about consciousness? There's no difference. All of it is imagination couched within nothingness. So, you're left with not-knowing anything outside of imagination. And that's pretty much expected because, by definition, you know-not nothing.


  2. 19 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

    False allegation against men is a hate-crime against men. It is the far end of the 'man bad, woman good' narrative. That's what I'm talking about! @Forestluv, if you want a broader context and everyone else looking for the root-cause of the issue, this is it.

    Man-hate has real victims! Be careful hating men.

    No, this is factually false. Nobody is that ideological about gender.

    Most false accusations are motivated by desire for money or out of hurt.


  3. 18 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @Gesundheit

       Ok, the culture shapes societal views of men and women. So, what if the guy got accused of rape, gets jailed for 20 years, and is found out to be innocent? How does that society help this man transition back into life in one of it's communities? He was falsely accused, found innocent, but spent 20 years in jail.

    I don't think there's any legal system that sentences 20 years for rape. So you might be imagining things a lot worse than they are.

    Usually when a woman falsely accuses a man, she's after his money, so she would be careful not to throw him in jail. If a woman seriously wanted to throw a man in jail, that means he's actually hurt her so bad that she wanted to get back at him through illegal means, because she couldn't get justice through the law because she's socially disadvantaged and the man was a jerk to her while thinking he would get away with it, so he probably deserves it. Otherwise, she would have to be completely nuts to falsely accuse him. There are basically no other options out of those three.


  4. 7 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @Gesundheit

      The maun question then, is how do we sort out the false accusation from ones that are genuine?

       How does society handle false accusations?

       None of the other topics, just what does it take to stop the fales rape problem?

    It depends on the culture.

    For example, in my country, if a girl was raped by someone, they usually marry her to her rapist to avoid public shame, because  having sex before marriage is a great shame here, especially for women. So, even if she was raped, her folks would try to hide and suppress that story, and then they would communicate with the rapist family in order to arrange a marriage, and then after a few days of marriage, they get their daughter divorced so that she's known to be not virgin anymore. The rapist gets away without any damage.


  5. 2 hours ago, Parththakkar12 said:

    society is biased.

    Of course society is biased. Otherwise, there would be only men or only women. Bias is what creates identity. And not all bias is bad. Some of it is even good, for example the reason why we enjoy hot sex is the bias, aka the masculine-feminine polarity. If everyone would be 100% unbiased, then all women would become men, or all men would become women, however society would want.

    As well, our bodies are inherently different, so it's fair and justified to be biased in certain things. And I get what you mean, but don't forget that women face similar challenges and sometimes even more. A man can have sex with as many women as he wants without being shamed or marginalized. A woman will be called a slut for engaging with two men. That's society. Some things work for your advantage, and some other don't. Everyone faces different challenges. The challenges won't likely go away anytime soon, so it's kinda pointless to waste time complaining about them.


  6. I've literally got sick with the solipsism threads and posts spamming the forum every now and then.

    I don't know how to put this other than to say that God has blessed me with the final answer for you, guys. So, I will share it with you here hoping that this will be a pill that will get you past this confusion once and for all.

    Okay, ready?

    So, the same way you've convinced yourself with the concept Direct Experience and how "important" or "true" it is, I would like to introduce you to another concept that I like to call Indirect Experience.

    Indirect experience is not at all mysterious or hard to understand. It is simply the experience that you are not currently having, but rather thinking about. Thinking about something is an indirect experience of it. For example, you have directly experienced an ice-cream cone in the past. But now, as you're reading this, you're thinking about that experience. So, right now for you, the ice-cream cone is an indirect experience.

    Now, apply this to other beings. Do you believe there are other sentient beings? Well, the answer doesn't really matter, because the question itself is framed wrong. A proper way of asking the question would be something like this: There seems to be other beings that seem independent of my perception of them. How can I know that they're real like me? And here's where understanding indirect experience is critical. Because you can actually have conversations with these beings and get a glimpse of their direct experiences by indirectly experiencing their experiences through imagination. So, when a person tells you about the most delicious plate, it's an indirect experience for you. And you can turn it into a direct experience by actually going and tasting that delicious plate they told you about. And then after that, you will have achieved direct experience of the plate, and you will be left with indirect experience, which is basically your thoughts about it.

    Now, it's important to tackle the issue of truth here, because the concept direct experience claims to provide absolute truth, or at least a close relationship to it. So, where does indirect experience stand from truth? Well, the truth is that what other people say can be either true or false. So, it's not really a problem of what indirect experience can yield, because it can yield anything, it's more about how it's understood and applied. In other words, indirect experience is neither true or false by itself alone. It requires your validation for it to be true. For example, if someone says that the moon is green, you go look outside and see if it's green for you. That'll determine whether the direct experience claimed by the other person is true for you or not. If you look at the moon and don't find it green, you'll know that your direct experience is different from what they're saying. You won't necessarily have to prove or disprove their claims. You can live knowing that everyone perceives the world differently, and that some people don't tell the truth about their direct experience from time to time.

    If you're going to be smart and tell me that indirect experience is the same thing as imagination, well, you're right. They're the same thing, and that's precisely the point, because when you say imagination as opposed to "direct experience", it seems to you as if they're two different things. But what you don't realize is that reality is infinite imagination, as Leo puts it. Just get this idea out of your head that there is somehow a distinction between actuality and imagination, because they're literally the same thing. If you haven't yet realized that reality is infinite imagination, notice that direct experience = indirect experience. So, by definition, all experience = imagination.

    That being said, I hope that I will never have to read another solip-fucking-sistic post for the remainder of my life. Thanks.


  7. 10 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

    Stay silent about the unfairness of the laws and rules and how their agenda is to convict you if a woman says something against you.

    This is false. The law is not biased towards any specific gender. In very rare cases, the people representing the law can make mistakes or be unfair with both men and women. But that's the exception, not the rule. A woman that has been raped could also face unfair judgment and the criminal might escape. Now imagine being raped without being able to prove it, but instead you get charged or sentenced for false accusation. And on top of all that you will just have to continue living with all that while knowing that the rapist is still out there.


  8. @Parththakkar12 Also, consider the opposite case.

    Consider that a woman who barely escaped being raped could not come forward about it and point to the criminal, because the crime didn't actually happen, even though it was intended. At best, she could get a restraining order against him. Consider how that woman would feel about going out while knowing that that criminal is out there and could possibly reach to her again.


  9. 44 minutes ago, Parththakkar12 said:

    A few cases are enough to keep the majority of men who feel the same way silent. Men are really scared to talk about this. I speak for a lot of guys on this issue.

    Stay silent about what? False accusation is a crime that only a criminal would do, similar to rape. Most women are ordinary people, like most guys. Rapists are rare, and false accusing women are rare.

    And actually, it's harder to prove rape than to disprove it. So, female victims have a disadvantage here. For example, if a woman was weak after the incident and didn't act on it quickly because she couldn't face people, then she would likely lose the case. Can you imagine how hard it is to hold yourself together after being raped? I'm not saying false accusations are fine, but they're a lot less frequent than sexual harassment and violence against women. So you shouldn't make generalizations. Yes, mistakes happen because judges are not Gods. The mistakes have n specific bias towards a specific gender. Doctors make mistakes and patients die, too. It's rare, but there's a law system that deals with that, too.


  10. 5 hours ago, Parththakkar12 said:

    When you are falsely accused, all evidence flies out the window. The system is hell-bent on destroying your life if you are a guy!

    We keep making the assumption that evidence is objectively considered in rape accusations. It's not! It's very easy for a woman to ruin a man's life in today's date. The system literally just has it out for the accused in that situation, not because there is any base to the accusation, but because the system has an ass to cover. Because, at the end of the day, we don't care about the truth. We care about making everyone happy in the moment, so that all hell doesn't break loose.

    This is the situation, even though we are living in a patriarchy. Imagine how bad it would've gotten if we lived in a matriarchy!

    Oops. I said something that's too true. I'm going to get a ban-hammer now or I'm going to get warning-points now. Society ain't ready for the truth, man!

    That's blatantly false. Do some research before throwing claims as such.


  11. Vegans are the stage Green version of a conspiracy theorist. Instead of being driven by intellectual superiority, the driver is emotional superiority and humanitarian correctness. Not saying that they're presenting false claims, we know that mixing truth with falsehood is a conspiracy theorist's favorite technique, but that they're pawns that are being controlled by the capitols that are funding the propaganda.

    I will probably start exposing the hypocritical BS of these ideologies soon, but for now, I still need to gain more clarity.


  12. 8 minutes ago, NOTintoxicated said:

    Was waiting for someone to pompously refer to this. As if I was ever trying to convince @Gesundheit, rather than demonstrate why his political approach is delusional for the rest of the community who aren't recovering from a frontal lobotomy or who's parents are not brother and sister.

    I know that truth hurts, but you've exceeded the limit. Now, it's time to put you to sleep. I've reported your passive aggressive insult and you will receive a warning soon.