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  1. Posted

    8 hours ago, Martin123 said:

    And that would be an example of the avoidance, thanks for a skillful demonstration. 

    Avoidance of what? Avoidance of your story? Nothing happened for anyone to avoid. Im not avoiding anything because in my head there is no abuse. It's only in your head that you think these things are real. I just think this isn't the place for you, you should be in a therapy group solidifying that collective story with those interested in accepting the narrative you have for them.  

  2. Posted

    8 hours ago, Martin123 said:

    What a wonderful way to re-frame victim blaming, you're quite skilled with words, well done.
     

    Did you just call Carl Jung a crack pot? Oh boy :D That's an interesting judgement you got there. Nicely done, thanks for being so passionate about such subject matter. I am sure there are many more judgments you share with others with equal passion. How intriguing. 

    The problem you have is that there is nothing wrong with getting raped or being bullied by a narcissist parent. It's all a matter of perspective. Abuse doesn't actually exist, because the person calling it abuse have their own biases. This is why you're an ideologue, you cling to stories about your nervous system and all that stuff, and if anyone says something that goes against your ideology you have to attack. Gaslighting doesn't exist either for the very same reason. I could turn your own ego game on you and say that your behaviour here is abusive and you're gaslighting me. But I can't because I just don't believe that these positions are real. They are relative and ultimately non existent. It's a dream you're caught in 

  3. Posted

    1 hour ago, IJB063 said:

    @Martin123  Hey Buddy, I've was in an argument with Betgr164128 a week ago in this thread

     

    It wasn't an argument. It was a discussion. If you decided that it was an argument then that's probably something to with the mood you were in. 

    1 hour ago, IJB063 said:

    @Martin123

    Yes mate, I understand its an idea, like everything else, truly profound

    I'm curious about that idea in particular 

    That's the point of the thread, is suffering necessary

    Not that everything is a idea 

    No, suffering isn't necessary. Not in my opinion anyway. 

    1 hour ago, IJB063 said:

    @Martin123 I 'm not trying to express an ideology, I haven't brought up politics previously

    I never said you were trying to express an ideology. I think because you were so triggered reading the post I think you read a post that wasn't tagged for you. 

    But ideology goes beyond politics. Ideology is creating a narrative, that's what the ego is, a story, an ideology, a personal philosophy. It stops people from connecting with others because if the ideology is threatened (like it was here) the person goes deeper into survival mode and tries to hammer down harder on the story by creating a story about the perceived enemy. The ego has to create a story in which the enemy is wrong and has all these issues, because without it the personal ego would feel very vulnerable. 

    1 hour ago, IJB063 said:

    @Martin123

    I don't think people should be banned from a forum designed to help people discover that they are wrong

    I think calling to ban people because they disagree with you is worse and more trollish, than not being a "genuine self actualizer"

    I didn't call a ban because he disagreed with me. I called on a ban because I think it's counter productive to have to waste time discussing things with materialists who are ideological. The forum guidelines that Martin 123 pulled up says clearly that anyone perpetuating an ideology and who isn't a mystic is going to get banned. This guy is focused on getting people to follow his own kind of spritual practice , but to do it you have to become familiar with all this materialist psychology stuff that does nothing except create a barrier between you and other perspectives. It literally turns into an ideology. I saw it in you and you confirmed it with your behaviour. You got lost in your own assumptions because you're not able yet to drop ideas and see with your own eyes how things are. So much of last comment to me was chock full of assumption that I couldn't really respond to it. There was no point because you weren't talking to me, you were talking to a construct in your mind , an internal representation of me, but not actually me. Your ability to contact me was crippled by your abstract mind.

    1 hour ago, IJB063 said:

    @Martin123 

     

    Anyway BETGR164128, when you inevitably read this looking to start another argument, I'm not interested buddy

    I was never interested in having an argument anyway. That's your internal representation of me. That's why I did the off after your last post. Like I said, it was pointless trying to communicate with you because you already made up your mind. 

  4. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

       I'm calling out your irresponsible and disrespectful posts to the people who have the disease and those who're afraid of it, and you being a smart ass! Not once did I say I'm a materialist, or a spiritualist, or whatever position I am, I'm calling you out.

       While I'll never ,100%, understand you, I know enough that your being ignorant, and being irresponsible.

       

    I'm taking 100% responsibility for myself. And I'm not being disrespectful, if you actually read what I'm saying you will see that it's your dark side that you're having a disagreement with. Ya know? The disrespect for others that you won't allow into conscious awareness because you think it's "wrong" ? 

  5. Posted

    15 minutes ago, remember said:

    tell that to the virus if it catches on. they estimate 70% of population to get it.

    You have a choice in life, to believe what you're told or believe in yourself. 

    You get to decide that. Nobody tells me if I'm going to get the virus. If I get it it will be because I joined in the vibration of fear. Believe me, I'm stronger than an ox, physically and mentally. I do observe the hygiene and I'm loaded up on vitamin c, garlic, vitmaimn d3. I am playing the game, I'm just not focusing on it because focusing on it doesn't do anything for prevention. What's the point in focusing on it when you have no control over it? Enjoy life, enjoy and be the centre rather than the reaction. Be the sun radiating warmth rather than in the cold trying to get the sun

  6. Posted

    Just now, Danioover9000 said:

     

       And aggressively addressing people here who may or may not be stressed or fearful of this virus already isn't a good image for newcomers to spirituality. You've shown them how compassionate you are towards people who're sick and the pandemic that's developing: oh, actually that's all imagination! Those don't exist.

    You've got a warped definition of compassion. Compassion for me doesnt have to mean panicking with others, or being on that vibration. My compassion is transmitted automatically to those around me precisely because I'm not being taken over by it all. All I'm doing here is voicing my internal process, you don't see the effect it has on people in my direct vicinity. 

  7. Posted

    6 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

       The people who died didn't ask for this to happen! You're not there to see what goes on, the suffering they experience. That kind of thinking helps spread the virus!

       I'm more sick of the stories you're telling here. It's wonderful and nice to talk about this stuff and pretend you're very strong against it, until the virus gets passed onto you and it actualizes in your body! No amount of beliefs will help you at that point.

    You don't understand what I'm saying here. You seem to have a screen of ideology that's stopping you hearing what another person is saying. This is mostly about you because you're clinging to your ideas of what you think is right, so whatever youre thinking that doesn't align with that is projected onto me. 

    I'm not trying to be a smart ass here, I'm just telling you that what you're reflecting back to me is mostly you and there is very little integration of what I'm saying.

     

  9. Posted

    Just now, Martin123 said:

    How very inconsistent of you mr. Moderator. I see, so only the people who don't agree with your belief system get a warning. I see how it is... what an interesting game you are playing.
     

    This is poison. Leo should clean this place up because you are bringing a bad vibe here with your resistance and the negative emotional consequences of needing to be right. 

    This is why we're a mess, because we're indoctrinated with these ideas that serve nobody, keep people in bondage to the mind. It's had its time, it didn't work. It should be done away with along with religions 

  10. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

    In all honesty, with your type of attitude if you got it (not that I'd want you to), you'd be likely to infect a great amount of people and then just sit on your butt protesting how it doesn't exist while showing all the symptoms.
    That's fucking dangerous bruh, I'd be rather careful with that. I believe I called this avoidance in another thread, I see that Carl Jung isn't the only thing you're avoidant of.

    What's next? You going to diagnose me with one of your cults many personality "disorders"? 

  13. Posted · Edited by BETGR164128

    @Danioover9000 Human beings the way they are at the moment don't know how to manage this virus. Were using outdated and ineffective methods at controlling it. You control it with your mind. This is why we're in the state we are in as a species, because we literally create our own problems by overthinking everything. 

    I don't know why Leo allows so many materialists and ideologues on his forum. He should wipe the slate clean with a mass banning of all corrupted influcence

  14. Posted

    57 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

    @BETGR164128  Who are you to say what exists and what doesn't? Corona virus at the moment doesn't exist for you, until you get the virus. But that virus is real and happening to other people who are infected, and not real for those who are not infected! Yet that doesn't excuse prevention methods to slow it down.

       And watch what you say. It's insensitive to those who are bearing the virus and the ones dying from it!

    I said it doesn't exist for me. The rest of your assumption comes directly from your imagination. The virus isn't real, I won't get it because I'm not in turmoil like you are. You're literally inviting it onto yourself like the people who died from it have done by worrying about it. How you manage anxiety and stress is way way more important than vaccines and even diet. 

  15. Posted

    47 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

    First of all, I believe you should read the title of this section of the forum, it includes the word serious, and Within its description a number of issues that are all considered therapy appropriate. 

    No problem with therapy, just have a problem with low consciousness trolling who start fights or persist in trying to recruit people into their ideology. You should be banned from this site as you fit the description of a troll perfectly. I hope Leo will be pulling you in on his crackdown of no bullshitters when he returns.

    49 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

    So your attempt to out me as a way of hiding behind a false superiority in a forum that deals with spirituality, although misguided and brutally inaccurate, is in and of itself just a plain falsehood.

    These are your warped perceptions. You don't actually see what's going on because you're displaying the behaviour of an ideologue.

    When you think you know, you don't know and that stops you seeing what's going on with another person.

    50 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

    Second of all, thanks for sharing your opinion about my expression, however your hostile attitude is letting me know that this debate isn’t productive at all, and so thanks for the exchange, it was greatly appreciated and I am moving on.

    I'm not being hostile towards you, I'm just letting you know that you should be banned for your counter productive trolling. I've got nothing against you personally, but you did start a fight, but you didn't see your own behaviour and the true meaning of it. Which is worrying me. For that I categorise your behaviour as low conciousness trolling.

  17. Posted

    1 hour ago, Martin123 said:

    What a wonderful way to re-frame victim blaming, you're quite skilled with words, well done.
     

    Did you just call Carl Jung a crack pot? Oh boy :D That's an interesting judgement you got there. Nicely done, thanks for being so passionate about such subject matter. I am sure there are many more judgments you share with others with equal passion. How intriguing. 

    You're playing ego games, trying to pin a lack of compassion on me. Psychology is crackpot stuff. Psychological experts try to make you a good citizen and functional in a dysfunctional system. Why are you ever here if you cling to these ideologies? Shouldn't you be in a therapy group or forum instead of actualised. Org? 

  18. Posted

    23 minutes ago, Martin123 said:

    And that would be an example of the avoidance, thanks for a skillful demonstration. 

    You only suffer if you believe that there is something wrong. But don't believe me, try it for yourself and see how it works. It's your thoughts that you're a victim of, not life itself. That's what this forum is about for me, it's not about believing in convoluted crack pot psychology theories or philosophies. 

  19. Posted

    1 hour ago, Michael569 said:

    not at all mate, just really allergic to that kind of bullshit. Saying the virus is just a creation of one's mind and thus it is harmless is very naive and shows you have not reached the level of consciousness you think you have. 

    If you have an allergy to the diversity of tools that can be used to cope with anxiety, I prescribe you to take a carrot, apple and ginger smoothie, raw, organic, cold pressed, twice per day for one week. Don't miss a day.

    Then come back and see me for a check up. 

  22. Posted

    21 minutes ago, Michael569 said:

    and shows you have not reached the level of consciousness you think you have. 

    I haven't reached any level of consciousness. You're putting words in my mouth 

    Plus I have never said that the virus is a creation of my mind. I said that I'm not worrying about it because worry lowers your immune system. 

    The only thing that is a creation of one's mind is your assumptions lol.