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I don't know why but for some reason I am very skeptical of Frank Yang, I don't wanna be negative on anyone but I think he's actually suffering from a common trap on the path of delusional self grandeur. I mean he's literally claiming to be as enlightened as the buddha despite not actually proving it in anyway. He claims to have transcended all human suffering. I love to seem him prove that. He's only be meditating for what six years. If you spend time around most monks none of them would claim what he claims despite them having 10x the experience he dose. What he dose have though is a following on YouTube so its prob hard to not fall into your own bullshit when everyone is parsing you. The reason why I feel this is because I have also slightly fell victim to this and everyone started to think I was some kind of buddha. Really what was happening is I was just good at convincing people I was enlightened than actually being enlightened. I still think there is something to be said for showing not saying, he just says a lot. If he really is as enlightened as he says he is do like a week long meditation without moving and live stream it. Also Leo is right, Dmt, 5meo ect if taken enough of blows conventional enlightenment out the water. I have reached high levels of awakening ect through meditation but if you take enough psychs it totally blows all that out the water. Humans are very limited in what they can awaken to, an alien or deity on the other hand can see through the very flaws of human spirituality and that's a good thing as there is so much to explore it never ends.

Was psychedelics discovered back then?

@Vladimir Lovely stuff, only thing I will say is don't be to hasty, yes your unfolding but don't be too surprised if there is something around the corner ready to bring you to your knees again. We tend to thing we have made it then reality comes along to show you more depth. As long as we are in this human form we must endure some level of suffering. I hope not tho and this stays with you. Great stuff and be happy :0

Well you can get alot from Buddhism in terms of how to deal with suffering and their take on detachment and happiness even can be very valuable and practical in day to day life. Maybe what Leo means is with the deeper aspects of its philosophy on what reality actually is. But you can just take that bit with a pinch of salt. Meditation is a great self development tool no questions there.

@Leo Gura while I don't agree with you saying you're the most awake being on the planet, as it looks terrible for your PR and could come back to bite you. I do think you your making good points in the fact no one on the planet has reality figured out and its total self deception thinking otherwise. Good luck even understanding 1%, psychedelics can teach the world this. You are also right in that human beings are very near the bottom scale when it comes to figuring this all out. But we are blessed with some nice tools but we are just dumb species. I once saw the god of god on a trip and I think it was to showcase just how dumb I was.

@Breakingthewall Don't think for one second there not other hardcore psychonauts who have gone as deep or deeper than Leo. I have met loads, some do things with psychedelics you wouldnt dare. But one thing I have noticed with all of them is they loose sense of reality in this world as a human, it's hardly something you would want to replicate. At the end of the day some of the stuff he is saying should raise alarm bells. "I am the most awakened person in the whole of humanity" when in reality I take a shit load of psychedelics. What is so special in that? it's hardly an achievement is it? granted there are intense as hell but anyone can do it and you can easily encourage people to pursue awakening through psychedelics without being arrogant and mean about it, if anything that will just put people off and now with some of the posts recently people are going to see this as a cult with a narcissistic leader, he is fucking up and I hope he returns to normal soon

pursue somone who will actually respond. forget her and find someone else

@Someone here can get boring and lead to suffering by having sex with lots of different people, becomes a sort of an addiction. Nice to find one soul to satisfy you and then focus on more meaningful things. Polyamory is an energetic nightmare but fun if your single

@Cocolove Exactly you have to feel and process, I mean yeah you can avoid possibly through meditation but when your stuck on a 10 day silent retreat its very hard to avoid how your feeling. They worked absolute wonders for me, almost miraculously. But I understand everyone is different and every situation is different but its worth investigating.

There is no fixed rule, depends on the reason why. Maybe you come out of a relationship that wasn't very good for you and you meet someone who fulfills you more. But if you were deeply in love with the person makes sense to jusr wait abit and heal. Meditation retreats are so good for break ups

@Cocolove How old are you btw, give some more context on the relationship?

@Tyler Robinson I feel like there is way more too it than that. If all I wanted to do is raise my consciousness I wouldn't even need a partner. I've been down that road also. I'm more interested in the sort of appraoches people have taken and what has worked and hasn't worked. I don't find much info on this subject, unless I'm looking in the wrong places.

@Identity yeah I feel like it defo is its own skill in a sense. Raising your bassline is defo the start, but if done incorrectly or picking the wrong person can bring you back down I can imagine. Do you have any links on the tantric stuff you mentioned? Would be interested in looking.

title speaks for itself, just entered a new relationship and wondering what have others found to make it help your spiritual growth? Any advice and tips My partner is fairly new to spirituality but is very keen to explore it with me and also her mom is very conscious and even follows Leo's videos. Also our values are aligned so its a good start.

Well said, I really don't get the fascination with him personally ? It's kind of scary and shows our society isn't as evolved as we think if people care what he has to say ??