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Does a skeleton and internal organs = pain? Could we say with certainty that it does not feel pain? It may sound kinda out there but is there a way to know for sure?

If there's a robot that's programmed to generate pain sounds whenever it's hit, would it be ethical to hit it or even destroy it? How would we know that it's actually feeling pain, as opposed to just making sounds? In the same vein, if AGI exists, would it be ethical to destroy it? What do you guys think?

I have a few that I would like to share, some of my faves! Not that short but... We are no longer facing a material crisis. We have plenty of resources: TVs and clothes and goods that we don't need. The problem we face is existential and spiritual. We have so much stuff and so many opportunities that we don't know what to give a fuck about anymore. - Mark Manson The desire for a more positive experience is itself a negative experience. And, paradoxically, the acceptance of one's negative experience is itself a positive experience. - Mark Manson There's too much money here. No one should be hitting the lotto for $36 million and we got people starving in the streets. That's not idealistic, that's just real. There's no way Michael Jackson, or whoever, should have $100 million dollars and there are people starving, there's no way. There's no way these people own planes and there are people who don't own houses, apartments, shacks, drawers. - Tupac "It's all about love... making someone else's existence just a little easier. Nothing else matters, I know this now." - Terence McKenna It's clearly a crisis of two things: of consciousness and conditioning. We have the technological power, the engineering skills to save the planet, to cure disease, to feed the hungry, to end war; but we lack the intellectual vision, the ability to change our minds. We must decondition ourselves from 10,000 years of bad behavior. And, it's not easy. - Terence McKenna “We are caged by our cultural programming. Culture is a mass hallucination, and when you step outside the mass hallucination you see it for what it’s worth.” - Terence McKenna "Man sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health. And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived."

As long as the whole world doesn't transcend survival (i.e. stage turquoise), the world will never know peace. So yeah virtually impossible.

Really interesting! I think it sorta represents the back and forth dynamic between each stage, between individualism and collectivism as well. It's like from one stage (e.g. blue), then you go to individualistic orange, then you go back to collectivist green, but green is a "improvement" of blue where it transcends blue and orange but includes elements of both stages.

I believe visualization and logic plays a key role here. Logic in a sense of not letting your emotions getting the better of you, not letting yourself fall into any addictions or unhealthy patterns while indulging in a desire. While visualizing towards your purpose, not allowing yourself to stray too far from it.

Social validation / groupthink.

Exactly! We need to stop putting ourselves on a pedestal.

@andyjohnsonman Hmm yeah that's true. But anyway I feel that this is a more "yellow" approach, so to speak. I think that yellow looks a lot like orange, but it's an integration of economic growth and a socialistic "love for all" paradigm. Of course there is no clear answer on how to achieve this, but I think their approach closely resembles yellow. Remember that tier 2 takes the "good" parts out of each stage and integrates them all. No stage is better than another, they're all paradigmatic value judgments. So I think that they felt that mostly people were acting out of fear, and they took a more logical approach, so as to not stifle economic progress too much.

Don't confuse the model for reality

@Parththakkar12 "We don't particularly care about how our change could negatively impact someone else" "You're just playing with fire" Exactly this!!! I think this is the issue with advocating these positions. Our egos are not ready, as a collective, for these teachings. This is why Leo will never go mainstream... at least not in the near future. I think we are at the onset of green, and it would be foolish to rush evolution. You'd just receive too much backlash.

She is advocating stoicism. She has posted other things about how we should deal with the cards we're dealt with and that our actions are just manifestations of our inner worlds. But I think the majority cannot understand these perspectives. An eye for an eye turns the whole world blind...

@Fathime I can relate. I've been doing intermittent fasting for awhile now and I've been getting a lot of stomach pains recently. I'm not too sure if I should keep going...

A post I came across today on facebook. Although her english isn't the best (I think she meant "you were chosen", not "you chose"), I feel that she was just trying to nudge people towards being more accepting and loving. But thousands of people are currently bashing on her calling her the most stupid person ever and things like that. Call out culture makes me sad...

@28 cm unbuffed Yea I think so! Sounds like you have to turn inward more.