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    5 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    @Leo Gura 

    Israel is big on LGBTQ, veganism and same sex marriage.

    But their politicians and people alike, are among the most far right radicalized fascist people in the whole world. 

    How do you square these two things together?

    This just shows you how diverse is Israel and how significant is the progressive liberal sector here too.

    Last year, the liberal protests against Bibi's plan to reform the courte were huge, with tens and sometimes hundreds of thousands of people every saturday.

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    23 minutes ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    But their politicians and people alike, are among the most far right radicalized fascist people in the whole world. 

    You do an untrue generalization.

    Look at the relative number of knesset member in every party you can easily find it on Wiki.

    And I don't need to tell you how the right wing is getting stronger in Europe too this days and sometimes it sounds even more tough there, at least to me.

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    1 hour ago, Vrubel said:

    Undergoing the consequences of war as horrendous as they are, is not genocide. There is a real fucking genocide going on by Arab Muslims against African Muslims in Sudan but nobody cares about that because there are no Jews involved. This whole genocide thing is a farce and propaganda tool. Some good-hearted stage green people get mindlessly sucked in because they lack critical thinking skills.

    As somebody who grew up on stories of real fucking Genocide and WW2 from the Russian perspective the whole thing is just nothing more than a cutesy stage green trend like 'defund the police' while also serving as useful idiots for real genocidal maniacs and blatant hypocrites.   

    +1 ❤

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    10 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    @Nivsch Do you think Israel should go through a major change in policy and education just like Gaza probably will?

    In the level of society and values Israel is much much better. The education I went trough, which defined as the formal one, was peace oriented and never dehumanized anyone. In practice though still there is a wide dehumanization because of decades of terror attacks, but again, not in education.

    But, in deep right wing sectors and maybe some of their education too, and in IDF actions in West Bank and Gaza, there are huge problems that are routine for years that help fuel the other side's hate. The hard core troops units I would carefully say have a sub culture and thinking bubbles of their own.

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    On 7.4.2024 at 1:21 PM, Vrubel said:

    Btw from mid-April, I'll be in Israel so I can see the thistle bloom(; 

    Hurry up to not loose them. We can meet if you want.

    @Leo Gura The more I read the more I think both sides are equaly problematic and to blame in the cycle of mutual dehumanization that lead to unhumane actions from both sides, out of the fear each side feel about the other.

  8. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    A weather forecaster, worked in a floods forecasters team lately for two years. Love the meteorologic topic since I was in high school in 2004.

    Also I sing, took vocal lessons for couple of years, and now I learn acting.

    I do these days an LiCBT ACT course to be a therapist for light to moderate mental disorders to help people out of my experience with my own story of anxiety and ocd I got to reduce significantly from insights I have gained.

  9. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Karmadhi Part of the soldiers sadly are affected by our far right wing irresponsible politicians and the results are as we saw.

    As a result of this there is a real crisis of discipline problems the head of IDF, Hertzi Halevi, a very moderate person, treats them.

    The whole legend of an intentional "genocide", however, is a total myth.

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    1 hour ago, zazen said:

    I know Palestinians living in Tel Aviv and Nazareth who barely share anything on social media regarding the situation or even like/comment on things to avoid any possible issues with the authorities.

    There is mutual suspiciousness between Jews and Arabs what is natural, so I agree with you that both sides need to be careful on the other side's sensitivities.

    1 hour ago, zazen said:

    living under military occupation

    I think differently than you. This is a very fuzzy situation because this area was actually taken from Jordan in 'six-days' war in June 1967, but Israel still hasn't applied its sovereignity on a big chunk of this area.

    Don't forget that in Jordan too there are palestinians I can say too are under an "occupation" of the Jordanian rule, but it won't be a honest definition.

    Another factor is that Israel has really no choice but to secure this area for obvious deffensive steps because of the distributed settlements there that make IDF to stay in the depth of the field. I can't say that I like this situation but an evacuation of these settlements is not really an option. Barely to evacuate Gaza in 2005 was a very difficult task accompanied by huge resistance.

    Another factor is that IDF and the Palestinian Authority co-operates in security missions together and in intelligence resources to prevent hamas growing there, because hamas is kind of enemy to the Palestinian Authority because it won't hesitate to take the charge from them in force, just like did in Gaza in 2007.

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    12 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    But Israel has made it clear they want a 1 state solution where Palestinian Arabs will be treated like lesser citizens under a fascist regime.

    But there are 2 million Palestinians right now in Israeli cities and villages, living alonside the Jews. Why don't you ask them too what they think?

    The dehumanization cycle between West Bank or Gaza Palestinians and Israelis is a positive feedback involving both sides.

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    On 7.4.2024 at 1:21 PM, Vrubel said:

    Same. I got the feeling I have to go hardcore on the defensive here because of all the falsehoods, twisting and stretching, hypocrisy and the agenda-driven hyperbolic labels. 

    Exactly how I feel!!

    The fact that Bibi does all wrong in Gaza what cost Gazans lives, does not contradict the list you just mentioned with which I am 100% agree.

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    @Bobby_2021 I have answered you directly. The right wing is mostly for the settlements (see reality is nuanced unfortunately) and sometimes still wanted two state solution that would end the settlements expansion (no new settlements will be built in the palestinian state area).

    The center and the left are anti settlements. 

    I can say the same about you or if not you (nothing personal), many people here who developed a negative bias against Israel because such and such medias, and now they will always filter what I say through those lenses. This is why a mediated reality is a dangerous thing.

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    14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    IDF is a gang of young men raised in wealth, given a gun and told to shoot people.

    I was in the IDF. Not a troop but still got a gun like everyone. From what I have been tought and educated there, this isn't true at all.

    To say many IDF soldiers has not lost their sanity out of revenge emotions? I can't say that because this, however, is true. I wish it wasn't.

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    9 hours ago, Bobby_2021 said:

    What is striking is when the US media who throws tantrum on the slightest remark of racism in the US is dead silent of the gross injustices on apartheid state of Israel.

    Provide a reasonable example for that or don't drop dehumanization slogans to the air.

    There is racism. No apparheid. I added an hour long interview of an arab muslim in the thread I opened she is here from birth and disagree with you.

    You know what leave it. Think what fits you. Anyway the discussion here devolved into a competition and not truth.

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    On 6.4.2024 at 1:21 AM, Yimpa said:

    How do you embrace more of your dark side? 

    Two years ago my anxiety had a big flare up that was constantly accompanied by health anxiety, such as for example - fear that a certain very harsh movement in my body or my head could harm or even kill me (because maybe do something to the brain etc) so what I felt is that I must do the movement, to see that it didn't hurt me, and then I relaxed. There were such unrational anxiety attacks all the time.

    But then, one day in the winter of 2022, I was at my Dad's house, and then again such a thought came. But this time, I really gave in to the thought and agreed to accept the position of the thought's content. Ok anxiety. Maybe there is a 1% chance that this bad thing could happen. Then a magic happened and the anxiety just dissolved and was no longer threatening. The sense of danger is gone.

    From that moment I began to see the thoughts differently, and to understand that making an alliance with them is the truly right way. I really began to understand that the disturbing thoughts are not against us, they just wear a scary mask, but the solution is actually to unite with them and trust them. Because, a one interpetation I like to take, is that they represent a fear of the inner child who just needs love and a certain approval from us.

    And the test is to show the brain (the inner child?) that you are willing to sacrifice something from the ego and precisely give the thought something and throw it a bone. It's like he's testing you, deliberately putting a scary thought on you to test your love for him, and you have to be brave and agree with it a little, and after you've passed the test he basically tells you "I've cheated on you, there's no danger at all".

    Becuse what I think happens here is that returning love to yourself is a challenging process, manifests itself as scary masks that translate to you this fact in a very twisted way. You can never think that something your mind is sending you is against you, because than it will become reality. If you try to oppose your brain, it will give you back more scary content because it is you all the time! Acting like a mirror.

    The process still isn't thrivial nor linear, and everytime I see I need to do a slightly different action, what makes sense of course, because widening the limits is always like walking to the unknown.

  22. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    On 7.4.2024 at 6:10 AM, Leo Gura said:

    And Hitler was a vegetarian.

    ;)

    This thread is not to show how wonderful we are, but to somehow fix an incredibly cruel dehumanization I feel we are going through in other threads here and in the media. Of course the blame is not at all on you but on immature users.

    Believe me I have my own identity I have built to far away from only shallow nationalistic ideas, but from the moment this war started it gets to me too.

    I know that maybe my talking are being filtered now to as less important because Israelis are talking from a privilleged position, but this is a skewed paradigm. Jews and Arabs in this whole land (including west bank and Gaza) are almost equal in their number. 7.1 million Jews to 6.7 million Arabs. And also similar in the size of area they live on.

    The only difference is that Israelis Jews were "unfortunate" to become much stronger militarily because this was the only way to survive against 6 Arab countries, and from that, an illusionary, highly skewed picture of 'oppression' is being created.

    Don't get me wrong there are indeed big problems in the way Israelis manage this friction I agreed to in the conversations here, but this is still very far from being this A-symmetric fantasy scheme Al jazeera and the like are trying to draw.

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    10 hours ago, Raze said:

    Every year the UN has a proposal on the two states settlement and Israel and the U.S. block it. The PLO gave up armed resistance decades ago and now they’re at the mercy of violent settlers. When Israel made peaceful settlement impossible they made violent resistance inevitable.

    When Israel let thousands of Gazans to work in its area for years, when Israel proposed the palestinians countless times a solution for the conflict, when Israel built a billion dollars fence to not have to mess with Gaza, when Israel gave hamas hunderds of million of dollars of qataric money for years to help him become more moderate...

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    10 hours ago, Emerald said:

    Those things are all well and good... but being more open to gay people and having more Vegans doesn't mean that the Israeli government isn't committing a genocide.

    Lots of imperialist nations have very socially progressive people within them (the US is one of them)... but it doesn't mean that their treatment of those in countries/cultures considered "other" will be fair or just or good.

    I can undersrand the concern when a foregin country (from your view) bombs a small country for a while when after that the aid for this country people started to lessen. This smells bad and listen. I can really understand the conotations it brings.

    But a good production still doesn't mean reality. When I, at least, take a closer look I see no real "flesh" inside this eco chambered genocide narrative of the anti Israeli camp, and I wrote what I think countless times, so I want to ask you, if you disagree with me, why do you think there is a genocide?

    Nevertheless, what I can admit is that Netanyahu's policy is highly irresponasible, harmful, cost lives of Gazans, clumsy, selfish, personal survival based and amateur in the way he manage this war. I think on that we can maybe both agree.