Nivsch

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  2. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    18 minutes ago, StarStruck said:

    Good riddance. She ruined this topic with her compulsion for death.

    I don't think so, and I also think this is not fair to speak out against a person who cannot respond right now.

    I think @Lila9 shared many good and quite significant points from her own and from links too, and showed willingness to understand how the convesation should be in the improved form, but the emotions and the inertia got her to maybe add one link too much after the thread was already saturated from such things.

    I try to understand in a general sense what Leo felt and I think I can to some degree, but specifically about @Lila9 I really think she want to learn and change the way of approaching the conversation if need to.

  5. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    I see another thing. The court is right about the problems displayed by him and that Israel has to be extra careful in the next steps.

    But, its decision generally does justice with Israel, because though considered SA claims, still didn't gave them a real or at least not an urgent plausibility, at least to how I interpret what I heard.

    If the court thought that SA claims are really plausible, it would demand Israel to stop or sustain the war, what didn't happen.

    So if to sum it up: A fair decision of the court towards Israel.

    In my opinion Owen Jones is stuck on an emotional tunnel view and hope he will grow out of that.

    But this doesn't mean he isn't right that there are serious problems in Gaza because of the war.

    I try to be fair as much as possible here after Leo's request but also cannot hold inside my feeling of inproportional focusing only on one side's responsibility to the situation.

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    10 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    I cannot help but understand why they lashed out the way they did.

    The problem with this approach is that in that way the whole notion of responsibility is completely diminished.

    Why? Because everything, but everything, can be "understood" if we study for enough time the psychology behind it.

    If we will investigate it enough, we will understand why Nazis started the war and killed 6 million Jews, gays, 'disabled' and more groups.

    That is the point when 'understanding the other side reasons' paradigm exposes its limits, looses its meaning and starts to eat itself.

    From those things we can conclude that every action of anyone, must also be examined under the responsibility lens. Nobody is exempted from it. No matter what is his stage of development and how his emotions or mental health or state is.

  15. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Karmadhi I mean I don't know about the case you talk about but I found myself articles now.

    Although IDF denies the claims about severe conditions, I could not understand many from that, because the wording is general and doesnt relate to the details Gazans claims about.

    I believe there is something in many claims but I can't say anything about specific conditions and the terror suspicion level of every one of those people. It sounds complicated.

    But, fair enough, from the articles seems to me that there are for sure problems in the arrests conditions and treatments.

    Every culture has its dark places, and if you want to critisize fairly you will compare every such claim to other parallel cases in another western countries.

    This doesn't exemp the Israeli system from responsibility to develop itself and improve, but your critisizm emotionality and sense of urgency is clearly a sign of an agenda, but you have a right to hold an agenda just as I do myself too.

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    @Bandman I think the low quality and style of your message speaks by itself (Edit: you erased this part ok)

    with all that I think your hard emotions are in the best case based on evidence only in the far edge cases (we speak about intentions here. Not outcome of casualities), they are still legitimate, and if you were to express your fears without the personal attack (edit: that you erased and thanks) maybe we could discuss. 

  19. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/over-one-hundred-days-war-israel-destroying-gazas-food-system-and-weaponizing-food-say-un-human-rights-experts

    More proof this is a war against the people of Gaza, not against Hamas.

    You are keep ignoring that the main survival strategy of hamas is to make it impossible for Israel to attack hamas combatabts without attacking civilians too.

    The main cause (95-99%+) of civilians casualties is hamas strategy to maximize them as much as he can.

    And this is not aimed to convince you, but to the silent readers here anyway. You will keep thinking just as you do and nothing gonna change this, I know.

    @Lila9 The absurd festival is in its peak. Speaking of festivals, did you celebrated Tu Bishvat?

  20. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    2 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-68078580

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/1/25/israels-war-on-gaza-live-israel-kills-9-in-un-shelter-sparking-outrage

    More proof of IDF targeting civilians on puporse like Hamas did.

    More and more it is shown that they are just as cruel.

    I remember when @Leo Gura said "The US will look very bad once the death toll exceeds 10.000",

    Now we are 2.5x times that with no end in sight.

    Crazy.

    There is no proof here.

    This is hard to understand from the article what happened here, and anyway no Israeli here will take seriously aljazeera's reliability. Please add another source and I will take a look again.

  21. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    31 minutes ago, Bandman said:

    How is that cosmic copium tasting. You're a horrible human being.

    Excuse me but you will have to translate to me the first sentence.

    I understand you are against the elimination of hamas and therefore you want Gazans to keep suffering for more generations. Ok fair this is your opinion. Don't project your subconscious terror supporting agenda onto me.

  22. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    @Karmadhi

    Where did you see I am justify something?

    There are of course problems with tactics IDF do, but how does it contradict the big picture goal?

    The fact you guys are judging a highly justified strategic goal and often in a very devilish way for your hypocrite everything-but-clean agenda, doesn't make me justify problematic tactics or to be a kind of person you want me to be in your mind to not have to listen to me and face your agenda flaws.

  23. Posted · Edited by Nivsch

    2 hours ago, Lila9 said:

     

    Teal's video about today's "woke" culture is relvent than ever.

    Thank you this is a great video.

    Instead of judging mainly the virus and its highly devious strategy, they are disproportionally over judging the overreaction and overaggression of the immune system, without realizing who they are jadging, and what is its greater function. In this way, they are just being played by the virus like puppets on its strings.

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    9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

    @Nivsch Do you understand how many Gazan children have been traumatized for life by the last 3 months of bombing the hell out of Gaza?

    Many of them will now become terrorists. Because they have no other options.

    Yes I agree this is a really significant factor that will design their thinking.

    I think that makes the goal to be even more important now if we want a chance for them to utilize this trauma to healthier places and even to get a kind of treatment later in their life.