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@Lila9 Everyone here talks from his or her trauma and childhood experience and this is what determines their side in this conflict basically.
The fact though is that Israel did everything to avoid this war. From a billion dollars smart fence, through 1000s of work permission to Gazans in Israel and millions of dollar poured on Gaza with Israel permission.
However Gaza was already saturated from wealth and money and could be the second Dubai, but it didnt help since every dollar was directed into terror.
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16 minutes ago, Lila9 said:Same!
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11 minutes ago, Lila9 said:This is really makes me feel proud in our tiny country đ
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@Raze There are also some stupid soldiers that does outrageous things. Statistically it is unavoidable.
The paranoia and the fear sometimes makes the soldiers be too loose and to treat everyone who has not evacuated as warned to be consider a co operator with hamas which is a problematic policy.
IDF soldiers also shot three Israeli hostages by mistake - because of this fear.
Don't forget many of these soldiers are 18-22 yo boys who risk their life in the maybe most dangerous war zone in the world.
This area of southern Gaza is extremely dangerous. The war becomes totally symmetric there.
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1 hour ago, Lila9 said:Thomas Hand, Emily's father, the girl who was kidnapped by Hamas, is responding to the claims that Israel is an apartheid state. I absolutely agree with him, he speaks the truth.
OMG
He just NAILEDÂ it. So good and so authentic.
I felt like a melted icecream after heard him.
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@Karmadhi Only one side is taught to kill and suicide.
I have never learn anything bad about the Arabs themselves besides that we have wars and we signed peace agreements and wanted to do peace also with Syria and to co exist with the 20% of the Israelis which are Arabs. I remember that I was in 6th grade.
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@Merkabah Star I understand the situation in Gaza hurts you and you are right it that! But blame hamas on that because he has at the very least 90% of the responsibility and likely even 95%+.
Thats the truth according to my impression. You can think something else and I really don't want to just argue with you.
But I wonder, where was the world before the war, when one Million of poor kids where brainwashed every single day by their education system into the importance of killing others along with the importance of suicide in the name of their religion?
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When you live in Israel for 36 years you can't be in a "bubble" about it. Sorry to dissapoint but anyone who get over the years its information second hand and by people/channels who are even not Israelis by themselves has far more chances to mistakes and seeing a distorted picture đ
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Red is indeed a genius in using Green's weaknesses against him and by that making him to appear falsely as "red". Quite frustrating.
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@zazen Again I agree on problems and can discuss on them with an open mind.
But In the big picture there is here an overreaction of the immune system in its fight against the highly sophisticated hamas virus.
Nothing will change that.
Let it sink a little bit.
Agree or not, everything is OK you have the right to hold your opinion.
My opinion won't change, not about the big picture.
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Damage = material damage.
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24000 (~10,000 of them are hamas combatants) are the result of Israel's attacks on hamas and hamas's fortifications, combined with hamas's interest and constant efforts from day one to maximize civilians casualties as much as it can because this is their life's job in this war, because they know this is the only thing that can stop Israel from eliminating them.
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3 hours ago, Lila9 said:This is the freedom fighters that you hype. Terrorists are terrorists, not only dangerous to others, but also to their own people.Â
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But hamas are angels freedom fighters that throw gays from rooftops that treatens their freedom, rape women for the freedom of sexuality and executed hundreds of PLO people to ensure their freedom in Gaza.
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1 hour ago, kenway said:I support a one-state solution shared by both Jews and Arabs predicated on a constitution defined by principles, rather than the current defacto ethnostate.
Then you support a total collapse of Israel western values that will turn backwards women rights by centuries and maybe also will lead to the execution of LGBTQ.
Ok. That is your opinion.
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32 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:You do realize the Nazis used exactly the same arguments to justify their brutal policies
As long as you do this comparison you should not expect a willingness to discuss from any Israeli or a reasonable person here that I hope they won't fall into this trap.
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1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:why did Europeans kick out the Jews from Europe in the 1930s?
Do you mean Nazi germany.
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2 hours ago, Lila9 said:This is the conspiracy theory that you want to believe in, but has nothing to do with reality. Notice that in your view, all the people you consider "bad" (Zionists) were cooperating with the Nazis while the people you consider to be "good" (non-Zionists) were the victims of Nazis, this is a polished story to fit your narrative.
I think that Japan were co-operating with US in WW2 and the atomic bomb was just a distruction from the REAL co-operation that we couldn't see because of the destruction
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I saw most of the six hour talks in hugue. Israel's explanations were very grounded to me succeeded easily to hold a stable healthy wide context to its claims.
In the other hand the accusation was based on fragments of claims that can indicate problems, but can never compose the puzzle to make their accusation plausible.
This is my impression I wrote here yesterday.
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Only Israel can be accused freely without asking for proofs
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The problem is that hamas takes as much as humanitarian aid to itself, and given hamas interest to maximize the casualties and the humanitarian crisis, it for sure plays a main role in this crisis.
100-200 trucks with humanitarian aid cross the border to Gaza every day.
Probably the need is higher and I hope the number will rise as a result of that.
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@zazen This "massacare" list is fake and unreliable.
And how do I know that?
Because Israel surgical operations (~70% surgicality in average which is very good given hamas tactic) in the last 15 years are also displayed there as "massacare" đ
Pure absurdity đ đđĄđŞ