Nivsch

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    8 minutes ago, Twentyfirst said:

    Bro half of them are children 

    I wish those children will get an appropriate leadership for their future in Egypt/europe/both. In gaza it will be almost impossible at least how it seems right now.

    Israel is doing them good long term, although short term the situation for them is hard as they are now humen shield hamas forces them to be.

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    24 minutes ago, Lila9 said:

    @Gennadiy1981 @Nivsch

    Your experience is valid and important. Yes, it feels like you are talking to a wall right now, I also feel this as well but I'm sure your comments as Israelies help to people who're reading it and don't know much about the conflict to have a better perspective.

    If at least one person here became wiser and more educated about this conflict, thanks to you, maybe it's not that useless after all.

    If you choose to not participate, I understand. This can be emotionally draining to argue with people who question Israel's right to exist because of some irrational, primitive and antisemitic beliefs which are very difficult to remove.

     

    Thank you again! 🙏🧡

    I really appreciate it.

    And yes, I know there are many intelligent quiet readers here and I write this also for them. 

    Being convinced even a little bit is a choice. Who don't want - won't be.

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    47 minutes ago, Gennadiy1981 said:

    @Lila9 There is no point of arguing, they keep stuck on the same thing that we Jews have no right to exist. Just move on. You will not convince them no matter what arguments you will make, it will be only a waste of your time.

    In the meantime, I am thanking God for giving us advanced technology so we can go and finish the job once and for all. And to all haters, you can argue and speak and debate and cry and scream as much as you want, I hope you do realize that we are not taking your opinion, i am sure you are smarter than that. But its ok, this topic grows to over 3k posts and you can expand to 6k and even 9k and so on and so forth.

    👍 We will respect ourselves and keep going with our goals thats anyway the only way to be respected back.

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    58 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    I would say that Israel is killing civilians as a strategy, a warning, to demonstrate to its potential enemies that in the event of war Israel will not be merciful, and taking into account its arsenal, that says a lot.

    Because you dont know Israel and its ok. no anger on you. You are not suppose to know. I live here 36 years (from birth), I know the society, mentality, conversations, thinking patterns, values and know that your claim is pretty unlikely.

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    8 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

    @Nivsch 

    Why not propose the evacuation of all women and children from Gaza? It is certain that none of them are members of Hamas

    Because Egypt closed the door for them and they can't go out. But Israel told them to evacuate to the south where there is food and water and very little (realatively) bombing

    Of course your idea is good, and to oppose to this and be against such idea is pure hypocrisy and support the terror.

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    26 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

    @Nivsch it was a very strategically necessary attack, right?

    Can you enlighten me on its purpose, please?

    This is a place civilians were asked to leave many times before the attack, which under it a tunnel in which a big regimen of hamas is found.

    But hey, you won't justify it any way because from distance it seems simple to avoid.

    "What is the problem? Go there with only infanty." But then we go back to the problem above. We won't agree anyway. The debate is useless because emotions and indentity are leading the game.

    Only a post logical approach which in you will agree to see interviews and videos of Israeli perspective and I will listen to the opposite side will be effective, what I try to do.

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    5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

    @Nivsch sorry, but the more I think about it, the more ridiculous it is.

    Basically, according to your logic, Israel should level every building, every bit of infrastructure with the ground, killing everyone else in the process, until Gaza is as flat as a field, so that they feel safe enough.

    Is that what you are advocating for?

    No. There is a whole intelligence unit responsible to guide IDF airplanes into strategical buildings hamas uses. This is quite selective. 

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    5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

    You won't lose 1000 soldiers a day. Even Russia doesn't lose that much with their shit troops, shit command, and "lets just throw human meat at them" strategy.

    Israel has one of the best, well trained militaries in the world. 

    Also, how are airstrikes going to help against tunnels build specifically to counter airstrike. 

    And you've already basically leveled Gaza to the ground, is it safe to go in now?

    I fixed it to 100-200 this is quite realistic.

    The tunnels are actully not the main threat. The war is in urban zone with from hamas can fire you from every building from above and from hiding places. This is an unacceptable advantage to hamas Israel must diminish first.

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    9 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

    Use infantry to occupy Gaza and eliminate Hamas soldiers, while also not denying basic necessities like Food, Water, and first aid to civilian population?

    Hunt down and kill Hamas leaders using joined forced of the best intelligence agencies in the world??

     

    In this way get prepared to lose 100-200 soldiers every day as hamas has a HUGE advantage on you since you have not destroyed his fortrees from the air first.

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    14 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    Today the IDF admitted to killing 80+ civilians to kill 1 Hamas person.

    And they have no qualms about this. So this is their philosophy.

    At this rate they will kill 100,000 civilians just to kill 10% of Hamas.

    What will happen after the civilian death toll goes over 100,000? This is gonna create so much hatred of Jews around the world. Is that going to really make Jews feel safe?

    But Leo from where did you read that?

    And how do you know this is a reliable source?

    IDF spokesman didn't say that. I understand when you say you can't trust him automatically.

    But do we can just trust another sources just because they are not IDF is this mean they are objective?

    And just the logic of it is not possible because see - thats mean that on every hamas terrorist, 80 citizens have to lie on him like a blanket to be killed, but even then - will the soldier just kill them? It doesnt make sense not logically not morally and not intuitively. We speak now on the ground phase. The air phase has reduced quite significantly.

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    To the quiet readers Israel supporter here - Don't lose heart.

    The lesser (or greater?) Jihad who shows us its true face with swastikas in every protest, is always the loudest (as we know from london) and it easy to fall into the trap this it is the majority. It is not.

    According to Globes news:

    France - 65% of the citizens agree about the need to eliminate hamas.

    England - 50% blames hamas in the war.

    Germany - Support rate in Israel rises consistently.

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    That was so refreshing and pleasant for me to hear this psychological point of view, much much better than any politicial statement.

    Although this interview didn't end with any "knockout" to neither way, this is part of what beautiful in this, that made me sense of more acceptance and 'flow' with reality, as I felt from peterson's subtext at least how I interpret him.

    I felt his point of view was pretty fair towards Israel's, but also the fairest possible towards the palestinians situation in addressing their real root problem - their own self-tyranny, which nobody will be able to solve but themselves, in the same way that a mental disorder cannot be cured without the system realizing its own self-depressive actions (being projected away in the most toxic form ever possible onto Israel in this case).

    While I do admit that Israel has some responsibility for the intensity of the fire (the isolated settlements mainly) it is easy to miss out the fact that this is only a secondary surface level factor but not the root.