VeganAwake

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  1. Posted

    I was thinking about changing my profile name from VeganAwake to Duality Police

    I wanted to see what you guys thought first before making any super important complex choices.

    I was even thinking that maybe Leo would be willing to pay me a little bit for my services... maybe just a hundred bucks a month...

    My main job would be to infiltrate dualistic conversational threads posing to be nonduality topics and straighten them away as quick as possible.

    The other profile name I was thinking was MillennialParadigmShatterer or MPS for short..

    What do you guys think?

  2. Posted

    9 minutes ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

    @Inliytened1 Yeah, I basically agree it goes deeper than No Self, but don’t mean that in a belittling way at all. 
     

    All I mean is duality, ego, non duality, spirituality all don’t matter, all concepts, it literally is just THIS as it is, now. 
     

    Therefore, the Ego is seen through and is no longer a problem as you said, yet you can still live as a unique human being.

    Non Duality= Duality.

    Non duality is like a medicine for duality, once you’re no longer sick do you keep taking the medicine? Nope, you drop it all and get on with life. 
     

    THIS is it, right now. 

    Yes you can absolutely go on with life believing you're a separate unique human being... there's nothing wrong with that. 

    What's being pointed to is that entire belief system is an illusion... Duality isn't real, there is only Oneness.

    Even if you believe yourself to be a separate unique human... it is simply not the case.

    Enlightenment is completely seeing through the illusory separate self... you don't get tricked back into believing you're an individual again does that make sense?

    This is quite literally the definition of enlightenment...

    Does Oneness agree on this topic or do we need to keep rehearsing lol...❤

     

  3. Posted

    7 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    Thats where we differ and thats OK.  I have become conscious that everything is imaginary.  And everything is nothing.  Thus i can shift consciousness to anything.  As God i am imagining and creating everything.

    Here's something I wrote during one of my Awakenings: ❤

    "The same thing is always being said, it just appears to be described differently"

  4. Posted · Edited by VeganAwake

    13 minutes ago, Shadowraix said:

    It'd not about getting rid of ego. It never was. It's about transcending it. 

    When you switch your pov from a piece of a painting to the entire painting, that piece doesn't stop being there, it gets recontextualized into the whole painting. 

    This in turn provides more context when you switch back to the pov of the piece. 

    Neither pov is more right than the other. But they're incomplete without each other. Not being restricted to one or the other. 

    I like what you said here but you cannot switch back to the point of view of the Separate piece when the illusion is completely seen through...

    The separate self is completely recognized to be an illusion...

    the illusion of the Separate piece never tricks you again... the ignorance is dispelled completely. ❤

  5. Posted · Edited by VeganAwake

    1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

    @VeganAwake maybe im going beyond the topic but i think its important for this discussion....I'm saying becoming conscious that there is no self is not the whole picture.  (From the POV of consciousness now, not the small self)  

    Stopping there still leaves a duality between the illusory ego and the body - and for that matter everything else.  As if the body is "real" and the "ego is not".  Consciousness has not become conscious of the entire picture yet.  It still has more to realize.   Once consciousness does...it no longer needs to obsess over there not being an ego.   Thats just the beginning (huge, but the beginning)

    It is complete liberation because there is nothing and nothing is everything.  All separations have collapsed.

    Okay I can see we have different experiences/understandings of what Awakening is and that's okay ❤

    During my Awakening it was recognized the self identity I thought I was, was a complete illusion. That entire identity completely crumbled away. The false self or ego was seen to be a complete fabrication of the mind that had been running my life and controlling me.(Maya illusion of the self)

    When this crumbling away of the false self takes place, it is simultaneously recognized that we quite literally are One and there is nothing apart(Non-duality)

    After true Awakening occurs, it's recognized that Duality never actually existed because it was just an imaginary separate identity created by our own minds and social conditioning.

    This is why it's called Liberation ...you become free from your egoic self agenda controlling your life, making you feel like you're separate & lacking and running on the hamster wheel.

    I don't mind you explaining your interpretation of this recognition as it probably helps others learn but I do feel like you're preaching to the choir a bit.

    This unit here is free I'm passing along the message of freedom. ❤

    Duality is an illusion because there simply isn't more than one thing going on here.

     

  6. Posted

    50 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    @LfcCharlie4Indeed.  And there is a very very important realization that consciousness can have via a non-dual mystical state.  And this is the realization into the nature of reality or what they are as consciousness.  Consciousness can see completely through the small self and that it doesn't exist but without this other realization the materialist paradigm hasn't been seen through.  Awakening is partial.    There is still the belief that there is a body or a human.  All of that is being imagined by consciousness (God).   You as the Self or God are imagining everything - EVERYTHING - without exception.   Because the substance of everything is nothing.    There are even further realizations that God has - such as Love and Oneness - and the why - why is God imagining everything?   To experience / know itself of course.

    With all of these realizations (and they all require mysticism and the collapse of all duality)  consciousness essentially comes full circle with itself and at that point it can experience itself as the idea of a human while also having non-dual awareness that allows it to be conscious of the imaginary human from the perspective of God.  

    I think individuals that haven't had non-dual realizations of all of these things - while they openly proclaim there is no self / no ego - (they may have had that one) they are unconscious that they are using the self to proclaim that.  They loop themselves without knowing it.   Its like duality saying duality doesn't exist - and then when asked if duality doesn't exist then what is it that is saying duality doesn't exist?  And they say it is a body responding without a self...but that is still duality.    The body and the self are  both imaginary.  To be aware of this is to embrace all.

     

    Lol I'm not sure if what you said made any sense. 

    If there truly isint a separate individual but just someone believing they are seperate, that doesn't actually create duality. The duality is just a figment of their imagination, they weren't actually ever separate.

    Hence why Duality is actually an illusion.

    It's hard to truly understand nonduality when the illusion hasn't been clearly seen through.

     

  9. Posted

    I like to use the story of The Mirage of the dr. Pepper machine in the desert.

    It will keep you walking thinking you're going to get a cold beverage to quench your thirst.

    Sometimes it's recognized that the Mirage isn't real... simultaneously it's recognized that it never was real to begin with although when immersed in it, it felt plenty real. It's recognized it was your own mind creating the illusion to begin with. Then you can untangle from social conditioning and snap out of The Matrix.(awakening)

    The moral of the story is: The ego is there until it isn't anymore. ❤

     

     

  11. Posted

    4 hours ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

    @VeganAwake Yeah as we mentioned Ego is never the right word, it’s better to say you continue to exist as a unique human being until you die, BUT know yourself to NOT actually be that and be The Self.

    It really doesn't matter what you call it. You could call the ego dirty underwear if you want.

    The ego quite literally is the mechanism or mind created program that makes you feel separate lacking or incomplete. You can always recognize dirty underwear for its desire to attain more, more more more money more power more love more of everything.

    It's my personal belief that dirty underwear subconsciously knows it isn't real so it constantly seeks outside of itself for completion ...Weather its by money, power, love whatever... it's never satisfied, it keeps you running on the hamster wheel forever because it wants to find something to complete it, and perpetuate the belief its reality... but the problem is, it isn't real lol.

    Liberation is quite literally describing the freedom from the egoic self agenda that runs a human being around endlessly making it feel like something needs to be done.

    When it's recognized that everything is already perfect the ego is out of a job and it deflates on its own.❤

     

  12. Posted · Edited by VeganAwake

    25 minutes ago, Consilience said:

    Interesting. This is a contracted view of ego. While in a sense, there is certainly wisdom to this perspective, we can also expand the ego's meaning to anything that carries out survival both biologically and psychologically, the sense of separation, and the individuality of your specific experience of life and 'the way things are.' Believe it or not, this force of survival, this energy of survival, PERSISTS after one awakens to who they are. And this stream will continue to cascade after one steps out. Enlightenment is about stepping out of the stream and watching it pass by, not disrupting it, not casting judgement on the stream and trying to stop it. The stream will flow regardless as it as been doing for eternity. At least... That's what I think :P 

    From this pov, freedom cannot obstruct ego anymore than ego can obstruct freedom. Freedom is your natural, authentic state. Ego is merely appearance, it's form, it's distinction. The Truth is always true, that's what makes it truly true. And plus, the stream is beautiful beyond description, it would be a shame to fight against it. 

    It's like the ego becomes deflated and is rendered useless because you are not feeding it any longer.

    You can't really ever get rid of an ego because it isn't real, it's a mind made program.

    I like to look at the ego as a dysfunctional survival mechanism..

    You don't feed it and you don't try to kill it ...you just pay it no attention and it deflates on its own.❤

    Liberation from the egoic self agenda is when true Freedom actually begins...

    I'm glad you found a kernel of wisdom in that perspective, it's from someone who was regarded as one of the greatest masters of all time. ?

     

  14. Posted · Edited by VeganAwake

    "A person who has self-confidence and high self- esteem (what western psychologists would call a healthy ego) is no nearer to freedom than anyone else. Such a person may feel that he is happy and that he needs no fundamental changes in his life. A person who has understood that his ego is continually causing him mental trouble is more likely to look for a solution. There is no such thing as a healthy ego any more than there is a thing called a healthy disease. The ego cannot lead to freedom it can only obstruct it. Ego and freedom cannot co-exist. When ego vanishes, freedom replaces it"  -Papaji

     

  15. Posted

    1 hour ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

    No worries, I am just now logging back in myself. Wow I totally see what you are saying. I haven't had the experience that the illusory self knows and that freedom lies in unknowing. We may be talking about different things, but to me, I was blind until I started to awaken. I see in some round about way that freedom is in unknowing, maybe unknowing all that I think I know, which would I think, come from a knowing itself:)

    Good luck in your Awakening I'm not sure if you will like this guy but he packs a very powerful unknowing message ❤ have a good afternoon ?

     

  16. Posted

    1 hour ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

    “Rupert: Awakening is the realisation that what we are, that is, the Awareness that is seeing these words and experiencing whatever else is being experienced at this and every moment, is neither limited nor located.

    This realisation does not happen to a body or a mind. It happens to itself, Awareness.

    Yes, until this realisation, we believe that what we are is a limited and separate entity located in and as a body. With this belief and subsequent feeling, our true nature seems to be veiled, just as a screen seems to be veiled by the appearance of an image on it. 

    With this apparent veiling of our true nature, the peace, happiness and love that are inherent in it seemed to be lost. From that moment on the apparent entity is condemned to search in the apparent separate world for peace, happiness and love.

    The recognition of our true nature brings this search to an end and reveals itself as the peace, happiness and love that seemed to have been lost.

    The feeling ‘at that moment’ has no objective qualities. It is more like a falling away. Have you ever felt love for someone? Of course, yes. What does that feel like? I do not mean to ask about the effect it has on the mind or the body, but the love itself. Are we not lost for words if we try to find it as an object, let alone describe it? But we know beyond all doubt that it is present and real. 

    Do not look for awakening in any kind of objective experience of the mind or the body.

    If you want to look for any signs, look in the direction of peace, happiness and love.

    Yes, my view of the world changed completely. First of all it became clear that the world appears in me. Later it became clear that the world is made of me, that is, made of Awareness. And then it became clear that experience and Awareness are simply ‘not two.’

    The realignment of the mind and the body with this clear seeing takes time and varies from case to case. “

     

    ❤ really like this one!!?

  18. Posted

    2 hours ago, LfcCharlie4 said:

     

    (@VeganAwake don’t worry I’d never actually kill a bird, also Vegan my friend, in fact it’s “Veganuary” over here in the UK?) 

    And, yes everything, in every moment is perfect as it is no matter what is happening, life is unfolding perfectly in every moment. And, since there is only Now, nothing has ever really happened, just THIS. 

    What now we're talkin mate this is making me extremely happy...❤

    Are they selling vegan food...?

    No matter I'm coming there for holiday how big is your apartment I have one wife and three boys(all vegan)...?

    PM me ur address is 14-19 Jan ? ?

     

     

     

     

  22. Posted

    1 hour ago, Flowerfaeiry said:

    @VeganAwake Example: when I first began to learn more about this work I kept wanting to always be in that place of knowing, so I would default to pretending when things weren't flowing, because I knew the state I wanted to be in, but wasn't advanced enough on the path to act that way. I would try to mindset my way there but that just resulted in the pretending. I first read about pretending in Remember, Be Here Now, where he has a quote that says something like, "they can always tell you're pretending" and boy that stuck with me haha. 

    Sorry I didn't get back to you..

    Yes the unknowing requires practice and the realization that we really don't know. After that though the surrender is beautiful... it's freedom.

    It takes a dropping of the ego to unknow.. most can't handle it..

    When you realize you are perfect and nothing needs to be done the ego is simply rendered useless. ❤

    Knowing is a curse... because you always have to know... it's only the illusory self that thinks it knows.

    The freedom lies in Unknowing ?

     

     

  24. Posted

    4 minutes ago, Gneh Onebar said:

    Doing fine. I'm now in the good 700s, let's see where this leads to. :) I will do another report in the future, if there are some interesting points to share.

    One more thing: A few days ago I had this 'strange' thought, that I'm not sure, if I'm already ready to let go of seeking. In a certain way 'I' like seeking. My mind made up this story, that after ten years (or so) of hardcore seeking and spiritual practice there should be eventually the reward of awakening. Otherwise it would just be to 'simple'. Like I had to go through 'hell' to finally remember, who I really am. And a sneaky part of my mind really likes this story and seems to be disappointed, if it's not that way… lol

    The big Cosmic joke is, when you reach LOC 1000 there won't even be a you left to enjoy it....lol

    Yay welcome to enlightenment.. are you sure...are you really sure...is this the mission you signed up for.

    If it happens it happens otherwise ignorance is bliss enjoy it while you have it..?