tenta

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  1. Just now, The Don said:

    I despise the fact that these leftists don't appreciate the necessity of capitalism for human growth and progress. They want Socialism which is a form of tyranny and control over others. Socialism spends what Capitalism creates.

    In capitalism you are literally competing with others for control over other people, and can be tyrannical by firing people based on political views, allowing tons of people to starve while you're hoarding money that you won't use and wouldn't be able to spend. People aren't arguing for Stalin era communism, it's democratic socialism mixed with capitalism. 

    Then you could say that by taking money back from a burglar, you're taking and spending the money that he created. If a CEO is giving himself free money while people are struggling, you aren't right to call the "communists" who want to redistribute wealth the parasites.


  2. Just now, The Don said:

    I care about the facts and what happens.

    Here are the facts: like I've said in another thread, meeting with a dictator to reduce the chances of nuclear war which wouldn't have happened anyway while condoning a dictatorship will clearly only keep the dictatorship going, instead of improving or liberating the country and taking down the dictatorship.

    You are only saying this right now because you don't live in a dictatorship.


  3. Just now, Bno said:

    Some of the dictators he panders to are dictators against Russia's interest, such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and United Arab Emirates.

     

    Not an argument for "I can assure you he has nothing to do with Russia" even if those were heavily bad for Russia, why would Russia not want to mess with the US election if it can benefit it and it has very good hackers? Notice how I am not denying Hillary Clinton was a shit candidate for president.


  4. 3 hours ago, The Don said:

    Trump has nothing to do with Russia, I can ensure you of that.

    So yeah, there are rules to live that can't be disputed:

    1. Having a family.

    2. Being a good person.

    3. The pursuit of happiness.

    When we substract from these rules, we wander off the path and hell breaks loose, as Jordan Peterson said.

    He is president of the united states, so he obviously does, especially because he tries to pander to dictators.

    All three of those are obviously relative and you need to question them, hell only breaks loose according to Jordan Peterson and whatever SD stage blue measurements he is using.


  5. 2 hours ago, Bno said:

    What makes you think meeting with them would decrease the chances of ending the dictatorship? And are you also proposing that we keep tensions with them high which would also increase the chances of a nuclear war? At least by meeting with them, you are offering a different perspective and reducing the chances of nuclear war.

    Because that's literally what Trump wants to do, just to meet with them and decrease tensions while the dictatorships keeps going.


  6. Yes, it can minimize tensions but there wouldn't be a war anyway, meeting with Kim Jon Un is bad because it condones what North Korea is doing to it's people, it condones the dictatorship instead of doing anything about it, if you were in North Korea you wouldn't the tensions to be reduced because that would just mean there's a lesser chance that the dictatorship will be ended


  7. 6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

    It's just a difference of perspective. Doesn't mean they are Blue or Red.

     

    Oh yes I meant a stage yellow/green person still holding on to a value or two that is from stage blue or stage red, but not being blue or red.

    On their website they do believe Turquoise is about "Spiritual intelligence, energetic fields, presence, “resting in being” and living from a universal awareness and existence." so I don't know how the video was too far away from that, maybe because of mentioning things like ESP and Mahasamādhi - but those things being included under Turquoise is healthy regardless of if the creators of the original model disagree, instead of compromising to stay in line with the original model.


  8. On 11/5/2019 at 1:05 AM, Leo Gura said:

    The trademark owners had it removed from YouTube by doing a trademark claim. "Spiral Dynamics" is their trademark and they will not allow any videos which teach it in a way they do not agree with it.

    Too much wokeness in that one ;)

    The problem with the creators of SD is that they do not have a deep access of God-consciousness. So they hit a glass-ceiling around the Yellow-Turquoise stage. The scientific mind cannot reach beyond Turquoise, yet that's when things start to get most interesting.

    If you want to really understand SD you will have to eventually abandon SD.

    People who you'd think would embody green, yellow or turquoise values just end up being extremely delusional narcissists with some values much closer to stage blue or red

    Prepare for as much disappointment as you can


  9. Just now, SerpaeTetra said:

                                                    Ok to murder/eat?  Yes or no and why?

    Cow

    Pig

    Chicken

    Dog

    Cat

    Chimpanzee

    HumanChimp (fictitious)

    Human

    Let's say you're not okay with killing a dog, but okay with pigs being killed, this could be because:

    -The pig is not a pet, it was "raised" with the purpose to be stock

    -The pig does not have an emotional attachment 

    -It doesn't break laws 

    -It doesn't die painfully