Etherial Cat
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28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Haha
I do. ?Bitter man!
28 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Of course, which is why good game requires screening and qualifying the girl before sleeping with her.
You think us guys don't know that you don't like being lusted after purely for your body?
It's one of the reasons why guys should rarely compliment women on her physical appearance. And the hotter she is, the less physical compliments.
Useless if your saliva is dripping out of your mouth and you assign a shit ton of value to the said look. The energy is still there.
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Just now, Leo Gura said:Yes! But can you cause him to flip that around? Good luck.
It's almost like it is as difficult as flipping your mind.
Only you can do that, of course. But the leading part is what I've been disagreeing with.
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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:I don't really know if a woman can guide a man into a desire for deep intimacy. Really, the man should be guiding the woman. This situation is sorta backwards.
You blind, bruh
. It's obviously the contrary.
The average men treat intimacy like cats afraid of water. Nor emotions, vulnerability or even trusting females are a masculine forte.
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1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:But even when there is great resonance between you, you will still give out your number and then not reply back.
No. I do reply.
1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:I got news for ya, any guy that you sleep with was attracted to your body before he learned anything about you.
Of course, objective factors are always noticed, but my point is that quality attraction revolves around BOTH objective and subjective factors.
When 1/2 is filed, I don't blink much. Whether it's for me or for them.
7 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:To consider your holistically requires approaching you and flirting with you, which requires the guy to be attracted to your body enough to do the approach. You are expecting guys to get hard for holistic knowing of you, but that's not how guys work.
That's only true if we meet in social settings where my looks is primarily what will be noticed, which are environments I try to avoid.
Also, guys don't have to always start conversations or social interaction with women on the basis of their look or attraction level, you know. If you have guy friends (I'm assuming your not attracted to them), you could totally also conceive how men can engage in all kind of relationships with women without sexual intent being the primary cause as a start.
Approach in the sense of Game is not the only way to meet people. I would even say, most interaction start through randomness, and not cold approach.
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13 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:And why most guys who ask for your number will never get a reply
Most guys approaching me through a cold approach or in a club will not get my number because there will be likely zero resonance between us.
Obviously, what drives his choice at this point is just the body, and I'm only interested in people holistically willing to consider me.
By not giving it away, I'm saving time for him and for myself. Though, I give my number very easily each time other factors get involved. So, I follow up gladly, except if it crosses the line and shows an excessive sexual intent. This is a good sign of being actually fuck zoned and I don't like that.
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31 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:Yes, commitment is emotionally challenging because commitment only makes sense from the POV of an attractive guy with many options if the girl is exceptional. There is little desire to commit to an average girl.
For commitment to make sense she has to be really amazing. But most girls are not that.
Also, commitment means losing years not developing one's game. And the longer a guy wait to development one's game, the harder it becomes. Also the sex and even the relationship will start to get stale after some years unless special measures are taken. So there is a fear that commitment will lead to mediocrity.
Having very high standards makes commitment very challenging. In a sense commitment requires surrendering or lowering one's standards.
From the male POV, sex is a daily requirement but commitment requires something exceptional. Which is why guys tend to have sex but not commit. If a guy waited to only have sex with girls he was willing to commit to, he would be starving like a homeless dog waiting for years for the right girl to come along. And then he would fuck that up with neediness.
So ironically girls are attracted to the guys who are least likely to commit. These are the guys who have so many options that commitment makes little sense. Because a guy who doesn't have all those options will be super needy and repel most girls. You girls are attracted to the most detached guys, and then you wonder why he won't commit.
The guy who would commit to you, you have no interest in sleeping with. He doesn't make you wet or emotional. And your sleeping decisions are purely emotional, not logical. Hence you keep hooking up with guys who won't commit.
The more arousing the guy the less likely he is to commit. That's how this game works. You have to find some sort of balancing point. You can't just chase the highest arousal. You have to make sacrifices. You can't get it all unless you are bringing massive value to the negotiating table.
Sex is a value exchange. And everyone is trying to leech maximum value. Everyone is trying to get something for nothing. And then suffering ensues of course because leeching and theft are self-undermining.
In a sense, when you are dating you are trying to steal sexual value. You aren't doing this consciously, but subconscious that's exactly what all your arousal and emotions are doing.
Which is why most girls are obviously just good enough for a low investment good lay in a club.
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As we say "Ubi societas, ibi ius. Ergo: ubi homo, ibi ius".
This means that where the human being is, there is a society. And where there is a society, there is law.
We need rules to live together, and always have. If the law is not codified like it is today, it is existing as per custom and general principles known by everyone, which is transmitted orally or by examples and socially enforced via standards. That it is still a form of law.
I also don't see humanity ever reaching a point where we'd all live through love and truth. It seems to me like all humans are designed to go through ego development stages before arriving at this point, which give per default enough room for a set of wrongful behavior. So at least until maturation, there would still be a good portion of people in development (if only children, teenagers and young adults) potentially doing some mischiefs.
But it seems clear that in advanced societies there is much less crimes and felonies of all kind. These come from imprinting on society with violent patterns, scarcity and high anomie. I would estimate that in a very very advanced society most major infractions would be rare.
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9 hours ago, Kalki Avatar said:Do you guys get horny with these songs? Lol
Not really. That was for the lolz.
These songs are like the ultimate cliché. Perhaps the type of thing that are so bad it gets good.
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34 minutes ago, Derek White said:Ummm... you can't tell how someone treats women by their Youtube persona. That's assumption.
So the fact he's married, and post video like this isn't enough to presume he's no longer into womanizing in your opinion?
What you seem to miss is that assuming this is not enough proof is also based on an assumption you're making about his character.
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Treating well ≠ niceness.
Women are definitely attracted to men who treat them well. There is nothing to say there.
If you disagree with the statement above, it means you believe women are attracted to men who treat them poorly and that's absolutely false.
Niceness on the other hand means an excessive, spineless behavior. So the two concepts aren't describing the same reality.
Women are attracted to men who are both respectful of themselves and others. A man who is falling in the niceness spectrum lacks spine and often has poor boundaries. Which is why it looks unattractive.
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Just now, Derek White said:I did, it's not very good.
So perhaps next time directly address the answer given to the question, instead of quoting the question like it was never answered.
To give some context, I've been talking about Russel as per his current version. As I said earlier, he is married and has settled down.
There are plethora of videos on his channel where you can see Russel's character and his view on sexuality.
Therefore, assuming he treats woman right is far from being outlandish.
2 minutes ago, Derek White said:No, women don't get attracted to niceness. Every guy knows this, and you thinking it does proves you don't know what you're talking about.
For someone who is so adamant I'm assuming things... I'll have to ask you where you're pulling that presumption from?
Where did I state that women are attracted to niceness? It seems to me that you've got an inaccurate representation about the way I think.
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What about you read the thread further and read the reply given a few post after?
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No. Incorrect mood reading ?.
Maybe some weariness. I'm so fed up at reading PUA creates out of the world studs, when it doesn't. ?
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31 minutes ago, Harlen Kelly said:Russell brand would bang them on the spot back when he was not in a committed relationship.
The justifications and mental gymnastics women do for the guys who have game and charisma are absurd, but you can't really blame them since attraction itself is illogical and absurd.
Look at this, this is class-a pick up. Some stuck up, average, uncharismatic, considerate, meek guy would never get away with something like that.
It would not shock me of Russell banged her afterwards even though she had a husband.
And obviously @Harlen Kelly is a prime exemple of a stud with GAME.
Talking non stop about compulsively banging hot woman and loves to go by the motto "I don't owe them a relationship" once it's done.
Irresistible, indeed. It screams the word "catch".
32 minutes ago, Harlen Kelly said:The justifications and mental gymnastics guys who pretend to have game and charisma are absurd, but you can't really blame them since they believe female attraction itself is illogical and absurd and they think we're stupid.
Fixed it for ya.
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10 minutes ago, Nos7algiK said:Russell Brand "woke up" a few years back and now has many videos talking about his sexual days. How all of that was nothing more than a reaction to his own insecurities, a desire to be liked, and to fill a void inside of him that no matter how many women he slept with it was never filled. He also talks about how in the end it not only hurt him as a person, but was hurting others as a person.
Russel is no longer the guy he used to be and good for him honestly, he has a family now. I'm sure many men dreamed to be him and many women dreamed to be with him. But, he threw all of that away to find himself and find stability in life. When someone we would consider top of the game is admitting there are many issues with this behavior, then maybe it's best to turn our awareness inside and ask ourselves why are people really doing stuff like this? Even if it is to build confidence and actually obtain self security then why do people claim their are so actualized themselves but defend this behavior like it isn't rooted in insecurities? The basic principle of desire is to believe you lack something in the first place.Exactly!
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12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:How do you know he treats them well? You just assume that because he's got game.
Because I follow him on social media and if he'd behave like his, he'd have some serious personality split leading to functional incapacity. He's got plenty of videos on the subject, and one can just presume he's applying to his life what he preaches.
Regarding Game: Just check what he had to say about PUA in the video you listed earlier.
Russel doesn't describe his way of being with women as PUA technics or Game.
At 2mn 04 sec, he says what he thinks of it: Manipulative and tricking. Which is exactly the point as lot of us make.
12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:You don't think Russell Brand has banged 100+ girls? Lol
He is a self-admitted sex-addict. I would not be surprised if he slept with 500+ girls.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did. Once upon a time, he was quite a different person from his own admission.
If you'd ask him about it, I'm certain he'd come close to the analysis I made before. "I used to want to fill an inner void, so I tried to dick any vagina I could find".
But I do bet his current ratio is nowhere similar to where it used to be nowadays and this is what I've been referring to.
Russel is now married and has kids. He's a totally different person.
12 hours ago, Leo Gura said:You can't get a girlfriend without first sleeping with her.
That's probably when the relationship gets holistic enough to call it being in a relationship for most.
But you can sleep with people without getting a girlfriend as well.
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6 minutes ago, Lyubov said:Life purpose and self esteem / self love is incredibly important when it comes to becoming as charismatic and desirable (or as close to) as Russell Brand. You can tell he loves what he does in this world and is very much accepting of himself. He is on a mission. He genuinely relishes in giving through his charisma and is detached in the most healthy sense. You can see how embodied it is. No amount of technical practice will lead to this. This is something that will only come with great inner changes and will take a lot of work if one's foundation is heavily off.
The reason why women love Russel is because he treats them well.
If he'd have the wish to get laid 100s of time for the sake of sex his energy would be different. Having sex with 100s of women is purposeless and boring.
It seems like the behavior of someone who is relentlessly searching for something and doesn't find any solace from one night to the other. That's a behavior typically coming from lost, bereft people.
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Russel seems to be "a natural" to me.
His attractiveness comes from being an effortless incarnation of several Divine Masculine archetype with a very well integrated feminine side.
He's not trying to seduce anyone to get something out of them, for himself. Which is what is repulsive (aka creepy) in Pick Up Artist. He's just playful and flirtatious.
From what I've seen so far, most PA have an underlying vibe of insecurities and devilry. They use women as second order interest to validate themselves and fix a deficient self-esteem or frame themselves as studs in front of other guys. They also put sex above other consideration. Usually, they go from partner to partner and have issues settling down or to create meaningful relationships. Also, from what I have noticed IRL, they come from a place of control which they hardly want to surrender EVEN while in relationship. A lot of them distrust women and see relationship as a zero-sum-game.
For a woman like me, PUA are only studs in their heads. When it comes to having the most important qualities to make a relationship work, there is nothing. And there is something almost comical in having so called seduction expert insisting on Game being so irresistible when all you it inspires you is to lock your vagina behind a chastity panty.
Russel on the other hand, is whole, doesn't come off as needy, doesn't delegate his authority nor search validation through approval. He's been married twice and has children. He loves women. He's been committing to women. He's being playful in his seduction and operates from a win-win paradigm.
I don't think he'd refer his way of interacting with the other gender as "Game". I've been flirting with people since I've been a teenager. But this has nothing to do with PUA. In the video posted earlier, you even see him state why he dislike PUA and he converges towards my analysis. -> PUA try to distillate seduction principles and use them for their own gain.
And that's unattractive to anyone who's able to clock that behavior.
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16 minutes ago, Raphael said:I currently feel conflicted. I'm not sure what to do nor what to think about. I thought about writing an answer on this forum, then shit happened and thought about creating a post in the Dating & Relationship subforum.
I just don't know what to do. I feel exasperated, paralyzed. I cannot make a decision right now. I either want to write an answer, ask some questions or do nothing.
I think that I'm just going to stay with myself and do nothing. I'm going to appreciate my own company.
You can anytime send me a DM.
9 minutes ago, Raphael said:Weak for having difficulties processing my emotions and emotionally opening up.
That seems very common in men, you know.
Guys are emotionally suppressed and taught to disregards emotions and see them as something weak which needs to be controlled. So it's a bit of a paradox.
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17 hours ago, Leo Gura said:It's not outlandish. But you use some interesting tactics to achieve that result.
I'm interested in conscious relationships as much as I can.
The least lies and deception mechanism I can go through, the better. You know how falsehood is pushing water with a broomstick upwards. I want to show myself as I am. I want the guy to stick around because he likes me, and not some facade.
Self-Deception, tactics, manipulation and playing games are the last thing I'd recommend for bringing cohesion in a couple. It will just lead the two people in a lie. Honesty, integrity and being clear with your agenda and intention is your best bet.
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36 minutes ago, somegirl said:Okay, I asked him out, he accepted the invite. He suggested we meet on the weekend.
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Sounds good! Keep us updated.
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Curing the average guy of his fear of intimacy feels more desperate than teaching mules algebra.
But you might be into something.