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So how has kriya been for everyone? Question at end I started again: I stopped for years but recently just messing around with some pranayama started to feel a lot of energy. It basically feels like a low dose of 5meo dmt nearly every session for a decent amount of breaths. When the energy gets to bregma or brumadya, and I rest there, I just trip balls for a few seconds. I only recently was able to finally get my hands 5meo dmt and it feels so so similar to what I just described, which has happened before, but is happening a lot more now. It used to be a rare occasion that would happen some sessions and not stick. I had a ego death on a retreat once doing this, after I rested in the energy it just intensified until i had some out of body DMT like experiences and then just boom. Vipassana could potentiate Kriya I just got back from a 10 day vipassana and it has really increased my ability to feel my bodily and energetic sensations. I think this might be why it's working so well, I think I used to often just visualize my mental image/impression of the spine, instead of actually feeling the energetic flow through the subtle vibrations in the body. Just a theory. 5Meo could potentiate Kriya I also noticed in the past 4 days since I started working with 5meo the kriya effects are much more intense. I almost dissolved into a buzzing vibrating singularity this morning for a couple seconds on one breath. Felt just like a moderate 5meo dose. Anyways! Should I do the full protocol or like Leo said, just pranayamas or some basics? I tarted noticing these results from just plain pranayama. I am going to start to integrate in some basics, the JC book really emphasizes you must do navi kriya, etc. etc. Has anyone else tried just simplifying it. @Leo GuraWhy did you decide to simplify your routine? Edit: AI says Lahiri said maha mudra and pranayama are the basis and everything else is optional as needed, I thought Leo just came up with it haha.

I used to have a similar experience as a child. It was different every time but a lot of similarities. It was pretty ineffable and I remember modes of perception i just couldn't translate into this world. I remember one time my sense of body and visual awareness shifting into this giant sphere made up of little vibrating atomic particles and somehow being able to perceive every single one of them at the same time. Often just after waking up. I was always just in a state of awe, although it could be physically and energetically uncomfortable. I am suprised I didn't go tell anyone, as far as I remember. Perhaps because it felt more real than this reality I just accepted it in my little kid mind as real.

I just went on my first one and it seemed the old students were doing the same thing. I had a great retreat and the teachings are helpful but there is definitely some dogma about it being the best technique and other buddhist ideas about how spirituality ought to be.

@Leo Gura have you been doing kriya this whole time? I thought you didnt even do formal meditation anymore haha. I actually messed around with it after doing hardcore vipassana and im getting the same results in a few pranayamas that I got only sometimes in a whole session. I think the hyperawareness of body sensations from vipassana body scanning has helped me really feel the flow of energy instead of just guiding it from my mental projection of that part of the body. So I'm going to just do a bit of it each day and focus on vipassana but might get back into it.

Im done with kriya after 90 min daily for a couple years back when leo dropped the video. I just get better results with other techniques. If I was trying kriya I would be meticulous to follow the techniques perfectly. I got good effects and even had an enlightenment experience from it on a retreat one. I still can feel the energy and use it to channel sexual energy, get into a meditative state, but I find self inquiry style questioning and vipassana body scanning to work better.

Have you meditated? After years of horrible insomnia adopting a hardcore serious consistent meditation practice nearly cured me. Try this and come back if it doesn't work. Your nervous system is jacked up, it could be physical, or there is emotional stuff that you never give yourself the chance to sit alone with, without distraction. Then you try to sleep and it all comes out, it can even be subtle, just a racing mind and feeling of unease. Or you just need to calm the fuck down in general, body awareness, mindfullness, so you can get out of fight or flight. The fact that you need to be so delerious to sleep points to you being in constant fight or flight. Does this match your lived experience?

I liked the paul chek aubrey marcus podcast. Paul Chek is a pretty cool dude, he likes ken wilber and Jung. I think for exploring those 'demon' 'exorcism' 'realms' topics he is probably one of the most grounded perspectives you'll have. I didn't realize how much he had tripped at super high doses. I just know him for his excellent holistic health information.

Oh god I missed a lot. Just a bit of it actually.

That's true, I did notice that Aubrey did seem to mention a lot that he had difficult feelings come up. In my experience this happens with me and all my poly friends, but over time of working through it and practicing unconditional love, you can experience pure compersion (opposite of jealous) and feel that way much less. I think he is just being honest about his initial struggles. That's the thing, is that you don't because love isn't limited. Yes there are human life related limitations on what you do with your time and energy, but Vylana doesn't have to work, to Aubrey she could be going to the library or the beach, spending time with hot dreadlock dude doesn't detract from their relationship. The way you frame this in value dynamics makes it seem like relationships have to be coming from this low stage of development. At turquoise and above, people are still going to be having sex, and are they really going to be possessive, value-seeking, even at all? Love doesn't need to be some sexual value exchange, it can be unconditionally actually wanting what is best for the person. Read the relationship anarchy manifesto, a classic stage green document. In it they say, if someone would live a more aligned life with another partner in the future, why would you ask for exclusive commitment from them? How is that loving. That is a possessive selfish type of love. For sure the ego can use poly to maximize value for itself, and most of the time this is what happens. Perhaps Aubrey frames his whole burning man threesome escapades as more spiritual than they are, but don't fall for the pre trans fallacy! Poly doesn't have to be that way, and monogamy is an outdated product of survival needs.

fr triggering the dormant gay man that's hidden deep in my psyche.

Halfway through the new one with hot deep voice dreadlock man. I would encourage all you who are so against polyamory to check your biases there, there is really nothing wrong with it and it can be done in a healthy way, even though it often isn't (just like monogamy). The way aubrey describes this deep love for someone overcoming jealousy, because you want them to experience the fullest deepest connections without limitation is really how it works in my experience. It's not about chasing sex but not limiting your connection with other souls. In a post-post-modern stage of development relationships really don't need to be monogamous, although they can be. There's a lot of cultural associations we have with monogamy that we can be blind to. I've posted about polyamory on the forum like a year ago or something, as I was suprised it wasn't discussed here more given how much it connects with unconditional love and mature ego development.

@Inliytened1 How about the lens of spiral dynamics? of personality disorders, insecurity? Of coming from a place of hate versus love? Yes the democratic establishment is fucked up but there are levels to these things. As a collective entity democrats are terribly corrupt, but also hold a pretty reasonable set of economic & social standards compared to most of human history. Trump literally frauds his golf performances like Kim Jong Un.

About to go on 10 day vipassana with dhamma vishudda, are they going to make me sit cross legged? I always have had bad knees and recently injured them to the point where i couldn't walk for a month. So I'm planning to bring a chair. I think it's pretty reasonable that for energy work, kundalini, certain types of meditation, lotus and other poses are beneficial. But I don't think it limits you. One of the kriya yoga books said that even in a chair at least crossing your feet at the ankles is beneficial for energetic reasons while sitting.

Leo what do you recommend for vaping dmt? or anyone. I had a yocan vaporizer for it for years but it started to taste like metals so I was probably inhaling some fucked shit. I really don't want to do that. But it was the only way I could really get to breakthrough. I would like to maybe find some kind of glass setup for it. Maybe the machine or some kind of glass pipe, but I want it to really work. I've taken a 10 month long DMT break and I'm going to get back into it after some fasting and a retreat. It really is the most beautiful thing. Personally I love NN DMT but have never had access to 5meo. I love learning the crazy things consciousness can do and it still regularly produces awakenings as well.

my knees simply cannot stand it. I meditate walking, standing, or in a chair with back straight. Any amount of regular cross-legged meditation causes serious knee problems for me. I've always struggled with knees but got them under control with proper biomechanics. If it affects me so much it will probably wear away at yours over time just more subtly.