RendHeaven
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17 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:I am likely completely finished with psychedelics, last time I used I got utterly raped. From here my interest is philosophical and intellectual, no more realizations.
Hahaha~
But even the philosophical and intellectual boil down to naught but realizations at the end of the day
It's good though that you're considering balance.
18 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:But anyway, this is what I am curious on... If you were talking to a 5 year old boy in a way they could understand instead of technical wording and absolute reality type stuff, when he says he would take the universe with him, to a 5 year old with no grasp on nonduality, does that mean their life ends with Leo's? Or does Leo end and other life continue?
Being hung up on absolutism would be like "there are no others" but that is not what I am trying to figure he meant.
From your human POV, when "Leo" realizes Mahasamadhi, "Leo" ends "his life" while "other life" (including yours) continues.
When YOU YOURSELF realize Mahasamadhi, all beings Mahasamadhi along with you and the universe as we know it literally ends.
These can both be simultaneously True
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14 minutes ago, Preety_India said:@Leo Gura the problem with you is that you're scared
Lmao oh honey
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3 hours ago, LostStudent said:Lately I've been in a pretty dark place, I've spent the last 3 months drinking, doing drugs, and hooking up with people on tinder. I did these things because I wanted the instant gratification but at this point I don't even feel that good doing these things anymore. I tried to end my life 2 weeks ago, I felt confident that I could follow through with it but I felt this intense feeling of fear and uncertainty right before and I ultimately backed out. I guess part of me still wants to live, or maybe I'm just a fearful person who can't take the final leap of faith.
I think this is rock bottom and maybe I can only go up from here, that's an encouraging thought. I'm going to try and get back to the basics, no drugs, alcohol, or sex. I'm also going to meditate and exercise every day and try to eat more regularly.
Self-Made Prison
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2 minutes ago, RMQualtrough said:Like Yogis prior who went through with the act, they died and we are still here.
Nope!
You gave that thought-story "realness" RIGHT NOW through sheer Imagination.
"I am Imagining and constructing RIGHT NOW the story that Yogis prior went through with Mahasamadhi, and that they died, and that I was unaffected, and this story feels like reality to me."
^This is (more in line with) what's actual.
When "you" "die" - and get blasted into Ultimate Infinity - the whole world goes with You, period.
As though the relative never even existed.
That is what it means to Be Absolute.
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Of course, though, any of us on this forum speaking about these concepts now are still attached to this dream of life - many of us have briefly recognized the Absolute but are still largely hypnotized into imagining that the relative exists.
Insofar as we continue to imagine that the relative exists - it will appear as so.
I don't recommend getting too sucked into these words though. These words are bottomless and hollow. I am describing that which cannot be described when saying "The Absolute."
One day you will know when you Know. Until then, take it easy and enjoy the relativity
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1 hour ago, Ora said:@Holygrail I think there are things that are objectively wholesome and unwholesome. Wholesome things produce wholesome mindstates like joy, bliss, compassion and contentment, while unwholesome things produce unwholesome mindstates like greed, hatred, and lust. While we should develop compassion towards all things, even those that cause revulsion, I think its important to know the difference and not just accept everything as good. If something is ugly and repulsive we should know it as such, but not let it affect our own wholesome mindstates.
"objectively unwholesome?"
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44 minutes ago, bejapuskas said:It is really unclear where reality ends and imagination begins
hehe.
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On 5/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, tommysalerno said:I have been grappling with the idea of purpose and I am getting ideas that "finding a purpose" is an illusion of ego that prevents consciousness from realizing it's own source.
You're treating "ego" as though it is something real.
"Ego" is not real. It was never there.
Don't believe me? Go find it and behold it. Disclaimer: You can't. I'm basically asking you to eat the food you see in a cooking video by reaching into the pixels on your screen.
Once you deeply understand this - that "ego" was never even there to begin with - you will see that "ego" is incapable of "preventing consciousness" because consciousness Is, and ego is not!
Now don't get me wrong - from the POV of a seemingly limited ego-identity, maybe it really does feel like "preventing consciousness" is happening. But I'm suggesting that even that is an illusion!
So don't let an illusion derail Life Purpose for you!
On 5/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, tommysalerno said:And the worst part is that this attachment to believing that what we are doing is our purpose is all out of avoiding looking into the abyss of darkness of who we really are.
This is definitely a possible trap.
But it doesn't have to be this way.
Conscious Life Purpose is possible!
On 5/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, tommysalerno said:life may or may not have inherent purpose
From the human POV - any assertion of "inherent purpose" is necessarily false because human meaning-making is a fabrication at the highest levels. Maybe from God's POV though, there IS an Inherent Purpose - but you won't be able to make sense of it so long as you identify with being human.
On 5/19/2021 at 2:42 PM, tommysalerno said:but creating such purpose serves ego by perpetuating it's own existence and prohibits us from looking in.
From the human POV - all purpose is indeed "created," manufactured, fabricated, arbitrary.
But nothing stops you from deeply looking inward and being self-honest and open to your True Nature while simultaneously fabricating an arbitrary and meaningful Life Purpose!
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On 5/19/2021 at 2:13 AM, EternalForest said:I have long conversations of 2-4 hours with my friends on a regular basis, but in those situations you don't have to be very structured, you can take breaks while the other person is talking and you'll always have the other person to go off of. But to speak...
- By yourself,
- With no feedback,
- Focusing on the same topic,
- Making it engaging
- For multiple hours
- With little to no breaks
- On the regular?
How does one do that? Seems like an incredibly powerful skill to have.
honestly piece of cake if the topic is your passion
1. It's YOUR passion, doesn't matter who's with you or not.
2. It's YOUR passion, public reception is secondary.
3. It's YOUR passion, why would you talk about anything else?
4. It's YOUR passion, its engaging by default!
5. It's YOUR passion, why the fuck would you stop engaging with it after just a couple hours?
6. It's YOUR passion, what better thing would you even have to do during breaks? lol
7. It's YOUR passion, of course you come back to it time and time again
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You're wondering if you were really ever valuable.
The fact that he "moved on so quick" becomes a subtle reason in the back of your mind for you to doubt your worth.
"Am I really that expendable?" "How real was our love, for him to leave it without hesitation?"
...Luckily, these doubts are naught but stories. Literal fantasies
You are already Whole and Complete. It's only a matter of Realizing it
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You will die alone, no matter how many people you surround yourself with, no matter how strong your bonds.
What a beautiful thing...
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30 minutes ago, fopylo said:Like for what purpose does it serve you personally?
lool no such thing exists
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7 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:Is becoming aware through meditation and contemplation of how I am imagining/creating everything (including science, birth, death, family etc) not the best way of going about realizing that I am God ? (Apart from psychedelics of course.)
Psychedelics are almost mandatory for full God-Realization, unless you were born exceptionally spiritually gifted, or you spend literally 24/7 practicing active industrial-grade spirituality for decades.
As an average person, you simply will not get anywhere remotely near full God-Realization doing a little bit of "awareness meditation/contemplation" here and there. Even if you do hours daily for years, that just won't cut it. As it should be. This is an INFINITELY INTELLIGENT Illusion, after all
Just let that sink in.
Obviously, it's not as easy as simply taking a psychedelic either. Tons of people gobble psychs to get fucked up, and they ain't God-Realized. So you need to lay the proper groundwork by still practicing sober spirituality, but at some point you will also have to take the psychedelic.
It's a package deal, basically. One without the other ain't it.
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1 hour ago, tuckerwphotography said:1. What does one do after they've realized This but are not stabilized in any "nondual" state typically associated with Enlightenment? Should I even pursue classical Enlightenment at this point, or is that just more illusion?
This is ENTIRELY up to you. You are (literally) free to do or be anything you set your heart upon!
Don't outsource this part of your journey to "other people." Get creative!
At the same time, work on grounding. Don't let an immature ego usurp and posture as God
1 hour ago, tuckerwphotography said:2. Are there other teachers who speak of the same Truth illuminated in your video? Ramana Maharshi? Nisargadatta Maharaj? Any modern day teachers you could point to (besides you)?
They all brush against God Realization to varying degrees, but Leo is the only one to directly address the ramifications: YOU YOURSELF as Omniscience, Omnipotence, Loneliness; Love.
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@kinesin Where would you say you are on the SD spiral?
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22 hours ago, Osaid said:Nice, 1 and 2 shifted my consciousness instantly
WOW, same here!
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@Mellocean lol this thread is about attractive people in general - not men vs women
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3 hours ago, Understander said:When you move "upwards" does at some point deconstruction become limited?
If it does what happens at that point? What comes next?
Just curious.
Well first things first; there is no "you" that actually "moves" (because there is no "time") "up" nor "down" (these directions are powerful metaphors but ultimately arbitrary).
It's really worth re-emphasizing how this is merely a mental label for ego-communication
Divorce this "up vs down" mental image from actuality - it's a map! Therefore, it is necessarily partial and limited.
But to answer your curiosity - Yes, deconstruction is required to begin to break through the illusion of "human life" and "reality" as we think we know it. You will not become God Realized if you believe that physicality, humans, space-time, birth, death, your parents, and you are "real." Along with anything else you hold as solid, unchangeable, or "true." Yes, everything you have ever labored for or defended - these things all collapse into Imagination at the highest levels. There literally are no "other humans" "out there." All meaning implodes such that it was never even there to begin with. Your whole life is a lie, RIGHT NOW!
So yeah, deconstruction is required for God Realization.
But mere deconstruction alone won't get you to God Realization - since - "deconstruction" itself is Imaginary.
As long as deconstructing is occurring, You are Imagining it - and just doing the brute deconstruction won't help you make the quantum leap in Realizing: "Oh. Imagination."
My recommendation to anyone who is serious - and this is what worked for "me" - is to do some serious, industrial-grade deconstruction on your own time. Daily. For Years. Learn to intellectually, emotionally, and in any other ways remaining - dissolve all things that you hold as "solid, unchangeable, or true."
(you could pursue this path farther - and deconstruct deconstruction itself - until all that remains is indescribable, formless, all-being-non-being - seemingly unknowable and eternally mysterious. That would be like going "all the way down" on the mental map from earlier)
But then, If God Realization is what your journey calls for, "book a plane ticket" - aka take a psychedelic.
With the right groundwork, and a heart aimed at Truth, the psychedelic will fly you straight to God. And it will be so obvious. "Leo" was right all along. Oh. But I literally CREATED Leo from scratch to be a thing separate from me with his own internal world - none of which is real. I can collapse "Leo" into nothing in the blink of an eye, because HIS ENTIRE EXISTENCE IS PREDICATED ON MY IMAGINING HIM. Lol, whoops. Who do I tell? Nobody. Only "The Great I Am" is left.
But what about the advaitan/buddhist "indescribable, formless, all-being-non-being, eternally unknowable and mysterious?"
Lol. You just Imagined that too.
But aren't you just identifying with the construction of God now? How do you know that you're not just deluding yourself?
Lol. You just Imagined that too.
But yeah, don't mistake us to be saying that "Imagination" is some sort of constructive human mind-activity on-par with your typical "deconstruction."
God's Imagination is LITERALLY INFINITE - "born of" INFINITE INTELLIGENCE. Your shitty human deconstruction is a joke compared to Imagination with a capital I!
So don't take any of this as an ideology or a dogma. In fact, don't even think about "God's Imagination" so long as you are coasting through your daily life believing that you are a human in a human life with "other people."
Leo's teachings are here to help you make that quantum leap mid-flight. While you're still on the ground, focus on deconstruction and Love
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20 minutes ago, SonataAllegro said:How is the "downward" movement, which is focused on removing mental labels, not the same thing as the deconstruction you advocate? Is it that the "upward" embraces construction as a necessary part of Deconstruction?
The key difference between "downwards" and "upwards" is that "upwards" emphasizes Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omnibenevolence, etc. as direct realizations.
The "downwards" counterpart is not speaking of anything necessarily contradictory, other than that it either de-emphasizes or outright denounces Omniscience, Omnipotence, Omnipresence, Omnibenevolence, etc. (particularly the first 2).
20 minutes ago, SonataAllegro said:I understand radical aloneness, that there is no one to help and nothing to do. Why do you think so many cultures advocate the bodhisattva approach of withholding one's awakening to help others, and do you think there's any wisdom to it?
"so many cultures" are imaginary >:))
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7 hours ago, Adamq8 said:And he has called him self the Ronnie Coleman of conciousness as well which is a funny statement ?
This is in reference to someone else, not himself
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Frank misunderstands Leo... it's really quite incredible.

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