UFOs Are Here

[Joshe]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

We have video footage released by the US Navy of real UFOs.

These are not ghost stories. Real Navy pilots. Real Navy videos.

Yeah, I’ve seen those grainy grayscale videos. When you look into the tech and the artifacts they produce and the conditions under which the videos are taken, it doesn’t look good for your case. A black and white video with nebulous shapes taken by a camera strapped to a jet traveling god knows how fast, tracking objects thousands of feet away in the dark. Lol. Fuckin aliens bro. I’ve thoroughly debunked this before but can’t recall the most damning bit. 

Have you looked deep into the technical aspects? Try to find all non-magical explanations first and see how plausible they are compared to the alternative. I think you’ll find that they’re not only plausible, but likely. A microscopic bug might have been on his camera lens doing weird shit for all you know. A jet pilot is also a human who can misperceive things. And let’s not discount the fact that the government has used UFOs in the past to serve some hidden agenda. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Joshe

[Joshe]

31 minutes ago, Hojo said:

This is a ufo drawing that someone from the navy said they saw. Its the coolest one.

Its like a bubble of conciousness.

lol. That’s some cool art. 

[LoneWonderer]

25 minutes ago, Joshe said:

Yeah, I’ve seen those grainy grayscale videos. When you look into the tech and the artifacts they produce and the conditions under which the videos are taken, it doesn’t look good for your case. A black and white footage with nebulous shapes taken by a camera strapped to a jet traveling god knows how fast, tracking objects thousands of feet away in the dark. Lol. Fuckin aliens bro. I’ve thoroughly debunked this before but can’t recall the most damning bit. 

Have you looked deep into the technical aspects? Try to find all non-magical explanations first and see how plausible they are compared to the alternative. I think you’ll find that they’re not only plausible, but likely. A microscopic bug might have been on his camera lens doing weird shit for all you know. A jet pilot is also a human who can misperceive things. And let’s not discount the fact that the government has used UFO shit in the past to serve some hidden agenda. 

Some not knowing would do you good. You haven't gone deep enough into the material to see or recognize what people here are talking about. Do you really think you're the first one  to come up with these conclusions? Anyways last I mention this because you can't argue with fools, they already believe they know the truth!

[Jehovah increases]

5 hours ago, Hojo said:

This is a ufo drawing that someone from the navy said they saw. Its the coolest one.

Its like a bubble of conciousness.

4 hours ago, Joshe said:

lol. That’s some cool art. 

4 hours ago, Joshe said:

 

On 7/26/2026 at 8:59 PM, LoneWonderer said:

Kinda of looks like a hypercube inside a sphere. Awesome picture,

 

 

[Joshe]

11 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

Some not knowing would do you good.

Sounds like it's doing you harm.

Not-knowing is meant to be provisional, not something you mire in indefinitely.

Many here don't seem to understand the point of good epistemology.

The point is to arrive at the most accurate conclusions given the data.

And what's the point of arriving at conclusions?

ACTION, or maybe better "Non-action"

Good epistemology is a filter. What is the job of a filter? To collect clean outputs by discarding pollutants. 

It's meant to be a tool, not an identity. Not a badge of honor. Not something you parrot, but something you actually fucking employ.

12 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

Anyways these are all just my crackpot theorizing because I got nothing better to do. All other theories are equally valid in the realms of unknows! 

Or here's another possibility...I'm just spinning a web of bullshit based on stories and people's annecdotes. Can't rule that out either.

You say it's possible you're just spinning webs of bullshit. How about you elaborate on that in the same loving detail you apply to your alien project? You don't build a detailed classification of things you think you're inventing. You're making this shit up and believing in their possibilities to a large degree. Then, at the end, you build an escape hatch. 

The flat-earther has done at least one thing epistemology requires. They've stuck their necks out. 

Perpetual one-line hedges that you could be full of shit, then not making any gains in one direction or the other isn't what good epistemology looks like. You work toward a conclusion of what is most likely, then you state your position. You falsify and weigh evidence until something gives. At least Q'Anon and flat-earthers have the balls to make falsifiable statements.

"I could be wrong" disclaimers and while not updating is a tell that you're not trying to be right or wrong at all. And that's the point of these alien projects. They're pure entertainment for you and most everyone who indulges. To prove them bullshit would bring your fun time to an end. To never arrive is the point. Which is why you spend the majority of your time consuming content aimed at their truthfulness rather than content calling out the bullshit. 

11 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

You haven't gone deep enough into the material to see or recognize what people here are talking about. Do you really think you're the first one  to come up with these conclusions?

Do you realize this is the same exact thing flat-earthers say. The same exact thing Q'Anon, astrology, ghost believers, and Scientologists say? 

When your best defense against a serious critic maps 1:1 to the best defense of Q'Anon and the like, that's a strong signal worth paying attention to. 

Aliens almost certainly exist in our universe, but your 70-80% or whatever conviction that they're visiting us on earth is an unfounded, fantastical leap.

Every piece of evidence anyone has presented, when put under a critical rigorous analysis, has mundane explanations none of you can refute. Yet you all are making gigantic leaps, dismissing those analyses, and saying "I still think it's true, we just can't know", and it's all licensed by Leo, your epistemic authority, because hey, he's the most epistemically responsible human alive, right? 

Leo would get torn to shreds in an actual debate on this. His "high volume reporting - not everyone is full of shit", his 1930's Italy, his Navy video, all of these have very good explanations that you're all dismissing in favor of something more exciting. 

Typically, that's fine, but it's maximally hypocritical for this specific community.

Edited 53 minutes ago by Joshe